[Aurora] Is PC gaming dying?

[Nomad]

PC winn = CryEngine 2, no chance of console version, PC exclusive tech.

PC nearing death = CryEngine 3, multiplat, not so much exclusive anymore

Well, if you like to look at tings this way than

Console win = Metal Gear Solid 4, exclusive, no PC port

Console nearing death = Metal Gear Rising, multiplatform, not so much exclusive anymore

 

[Chandoo]

what's the point of argument here Nomad, when the game you consider the holy grail of all gaming all the time is not on the PC ?

 

[Shyber]

what's the point of argument here Nomad, when the game you consider the holy grail of all gaming all the time is not on the PC ?

I'd like to hear the answer to this one.

And also to my argument <_<

 

[Nomad]

what's the point of argument here Nomad, when the game you consider the holy grail of all gaming all the time is not on the PC ?

If I make a list of my favorite top five games than I don't think there would be any game from X360. Does that mean X360 is useless and should not be considered?

And also to my argument <_<

I think you should locate the CryEngine 3 announcement thread and read my response there. Whatever issues you have raised here have already been answered there in detail :wink2:

 

[Sire Ahsan]

PC winn = CryEngine 2, no chance of console version, PC exclusive tech.

PC nearing death = CryEngine 3, multiplat, not so much exclusive anymore

Metal Gear Solid on PC ... PC winn ? MGS is a much much much bigger title than Crysis !

there's not much left that a gamer can get "only on the PC" platform, console versions, though technically not as capable, are still the one's that do the real business and get the worth while media attention the game makers so crave.

Real Time Strategy game ... while even released on the consoles ... arent really even mentioned by an console player much like no one game a damn about Burnout on the PC (like you said). Thats a whole GENRE of games. Not just one ... but a whole GENRE! Titles like Red Alert, CnC Tiberium, Supreme Commander, Warcraft, Starcraft, Civilizations, Age Of Empires.

And multiplayer in multiplats are bigger on the PC ... hence you have TF2 clans on PC, CoD4 dedicated servers, CoD clans in Pakistan ... WCG Tournaments ... everything ... on PC! Pro-gaming is taken seriously on the PC. Even FIFA ... which the console is supposed to haev the next-gen version of ... still Fifa 09 is on the PC in WORLD CYBER GAMES!

Companies that previously made games FOR pc are now going multiplatform and deserting PC. The games are made with the console audience in mind.

The focus is diluted and PC loses out since it got full attention from these companies in the yesteryears.

By your logic can we say that now since some of the console exclusives are moving to the PC, consoles are dying ? Neglected ? They brought SFIV to PC ... they got RE5 to PC with some extras ... Mass Effect came on the PC didn it ... Metal Gear Solid is coming on the PC too ... Devil May Cry 4 ! Console exclusives on the PC naow ?

You contradict yourself when you say DESERTING and MULTIPLATFORM at the same time :S

 

[Shyber]

Way to take avoid a discussion Nomad...

 

[Chandoo]

If I make a list of my favorite top five games than I don't think there would be any game from X360. Does that mean X360 is useless and should not be considered?

Naah, since you'll still be rooting for a console but for someone who advocates PC gaming so much to consider the best game/series ever to be something console exclusive, is nothing but a black spot on the state of PC gaming and all that it stands for .

Whelp, there you have it folks, we've come to a unanimous conclusion now, wrap it up Charlie.

Real Time Strategy game ... while even released on the consoles ... arent really even mentioned by an console player much like no one game a damn about Burnout on the PC (like you said).

really ? i'm pretty sure halo wars was a big deal for a lot of people, that and tom clancy's endwar which introduced a new kind of game interface mechanic, on the consoles first.

but a whole GENRE! Titles like Red Alert, CnC Tiberium, Supreme Commander, Warcraft, Starcraft, Civilizations, Age Of Empires.

underlined franchises are the one's which have console releases on them. Phail ahsan

edit, hey turns out supreme commander is also on the 360, another one underlined

like i said, little left that's "PC only" for a gamer to consider, even in the RTS department, and all of those were simultaneous launches on PC/console, not months apart.

By your logic can we say that now since some of the console exclusives are moving to the PC, consoles are dying ? Neglected ? They brought SFIV to PC ... they got RE5 to PC with some extras ... Mass Effect came on the PC didn it ... Metal Gear Solid is coming on the PC too ... Devil May Cry 4 ! Console exclusives on the PC naow ?

i already mentioned all of those games in my post dolt ..

RE, DMC, Mass Effect all came/are coming to the PC months upon months after their respective console releases, which i also addressed, and only speaks to the state of PC gaming when popular games tend to come really late, or not at all, but rarely simultaneously.

Metal Gear has had 2 releases on the PC as well, so it's not something out of the blue, the fact that it's coming to the 360 is a bigger discussion argument since this is the first on the 360 and second on a microsoft console at all.

And multiplayer in multiplats are bigger on the PC ... hence you have TF2 clans on PC, CoD4 dedicated servers, CoD clans in Pakistan ... WCG Tournaments ... everything ... on PC!

Call of Duty 4 on the xbox 360 has 13 million unique live players playing on it. 'nuff said.

 

[Nomad]

Way to take avoid a discussion Nomad...

I thought that was a COMPLETE answer

 

[Sire Ahsan]

@Chandoo ... read my post again

Real Time Strategy game ... while even released on the consoles ... arent really even mentioned by an console player much like no one game a damn about Burnout on the PC (like you said). Thats a whole GENRE of games. Not just one ... but a whole GENRE! Titles like Red Alert, CnC Tiberium, Supreme Commander, Warcraft, Starcraft, Civilizations, Age Of Empires.

I clearly mention the "not really given a damn about" ... much like you use as an excuse for Burnout and others not even mentioned on the PC. When was the last time I heard that Red Alert 3 tourney horaha ho on the X360 ? ... eh ... no. WCG 2008 ... AoE 3 was on the PC, not console. Even FIFA is still on the PC ... while its NEXT GEN version is on the console only.

Thats why WCG 2009 only has Virtua Fighter 4 and Guitar Hero on the X360, 3 mobile gmes and all other on the PC (5 or 6 I think) ... really ... PC gaming dying when its the most played on a pro level ? On world championship level ?

Oh and while End-war is a great game, its not exactly an RTS ... more of a real time tactics game. No base building ... no micromanagment ... something that RTS are all about.

When Real Time Strategy and MMORPGS are mentioned, only the PC comes to mind. When a platform is exclusive to almost the whole of two GENRE of gaming ... I doubt its 'dieing' ...! All other genres are multiplat.

And you mind saying something against the multiplayer ? You always have got something to say dontcha ?

 

[reaper]

lolz

only 3 games on ps3 i want to play ,, mgs4 , killzone 2 and uncharted 2

n most of the games on xbox360 i like are on PC.

besides strategy n FPS rock on PC n for me are the most fun cuz of the awsum online competition.

tats my defence for PC

 

[Chandoo]

Thats why WCG 2009 only has Virtua Fighter 4 and Guitar Hero on the X360, 3 mobile gmes and all other on the PC (5 or 6 I think) ... really ... PC gaming dying when its the most played on a pro level ? On world championship level ?

lol ahsan, striking an axe in your own foot i see

looking at the games list for WCG 2009, it's strange to see that they're still playing CS 1.6 and warcraft III, ancient relics of PC gaming, and not anything recent. where as console games are now invading what was widely considered a "PC only" thing for many-a-years.

WCG 2009 seems to have a lot less games in general, 3 PC (the other 3 are cheap chinese and korean productions no one gives a damn about lol) , 2 console 3 mobile if i'm correct, downsizing i guess since it's being held in China, and that no one wants to come to what they think is mainly a PC event

When was the last time I heard that Red Alert 3 tourney horaha ho on the X360 ? ... eh ... no

when was the last time i heard red alert 3 tourney horaha ho on the PC ? .. eh ? those games aren't nearly as popular as they once were either.

When Real Time Strategy and MMORPGS are mentioned, only the PC comes to mind. When a platform is exclusive to almost the whole of two GENRE of gaming ... I doubt its 'dieing' ...! All other genres are multiplat.

MMORPG ? really ? when you think of MMORPG the only thing i can name is warcraft, which as many have said is probably the only thing left for PC gamers, other than that the only MMORPG i can name is final fantasy XI which is apparently active and more popular on consoles.

mmorpg is a stale genre, there hasn't been any progression in it for years now, but even in that some forth coming MMORPG's like Final Fantasy XVI, DC Universe, The Agency are all being focused on primarily as console games.

And you mind saying something against the multiplayer ? You always have got something to say dontcha ?

i already did, besides, have you heard of this thing called xbox live ? it's supposed to have millions upon millions of players on it, you know, for shizzle.

oh, and why is battlefield 1943 a console exclusive again ahsan ? wasn't that sort of thing supposed to be a PC gamer's cup of tea ? not anymore i guess lol

 

[hasanJ]

alrite noobs say PC Gaming iz dying becoz of next Gen Consoles

thts just BullShit

PC Gaming iz like a Sinusoidal Wave it goes up and down
at the start of a new Gen of Console PC Gaming scene goes down with delayed games and timed exclusives

but after a few years when those consoles enter their final stages of life PC Gaming goes up with innovation and never before seen Graphics

Both 360 and PS3 will die but PC Gaming wont
Xbox2 and PS4 will die but PC Gaming wont :8
wake up nubs

 

[Kane]

lol ahsan, striking an axe in your own foot i see

looking at the games list for WCG 2009, it's strange to see that they're still playing CS 1.6 and warcraft III, ancient relics of PC gaming, and not anything recent. where as console games are now invading what was widely considered a "PC only" thing for many-a-years.

WCG 2009 seems to have a lot less games in general, 3 PC (the other 3 are cheap chinese and korean productions no one gives a damn about lol) , 2 console 3 mobile if i'm correct, downsizing i guess since it's being held in China, and that no one wants to come to what they think is mainly a PC event
when was the last time i heard red alert 3 tourney horaha ho on the PC ? .. eh ? those games aren't nearly as popular as they once were either.

MMORPG ? really ? when you think of MMORPG the only thing i can name is warcraft, which as many have said is probably the only thing left for PC gamers, other than that the only MMORPG i can name is final fantasy XI which is apparently active and more popular on consoles.

mmorpg is a stale genre, there hasn't been any progression in it for years now.


i already did, besides, have you heard of this thing called xbox live ? it's supposed to have millions upon millions of players on it, you know, for shizzle.

oh, and why is battlefield 1943 a console exclusive again ahsan ? wasn't that sort of thing supposed to be a PC gamer's cup of tea ? not anymore i guess lol

From ancient relics i remember something like Cod 4 multiplayer
Abay yaar tum console walon ke pass itne players nahi hote jitne hamare servers hote hain!
Someday try to break one of the Holy console commandments and try to run cod4 on ur pc and see how many server are there(official + non official).U will die calculating lol

I am reading something about mmorpg and from this genre i am remembering something like WOW!( with countless members)

Now chandoo will say this is also trolling!

 

[Chandoo]

Abay yaar tum console walon ke pass itne players nahi hote jitne hamare servers hote hain!

really ? there are 13 million + servers for call of duty 4 ? cause that's how many active xbox live players there are according to activision themselves, that's not even counting PS3 players.

Both 360 and PS3 will die but PC Gaming wont
Xbox2 and PS4 will die but PC Gaming wont

wake up nubs

yeah, PC gaming will just require some cosmetic surgery that will be ten times more expensive than buying a next-gen console :8

 

[hasanJ]

yeah, PC gaming will just require some cosmetic surgery that will be ten times more expensive than buying a next-gen console

20K PC Performs better than a 40K PS3
i dont see the ten times price

 

[Kane]

really ? there are 13 million + servers for call of duty 4 ? cause that's how many active xbox live players there are according to activision themselves, that's not even counting PS3 players.

I was only talking about cod4 players can u confirm it every body who is active on xbox live has COD4!lol

 

[Chandoo]

20K PC Performs better than a 40K PS3
i dont see the ten times price

wrong timeline, right now PC gaming is in the decline and it's getting console ports, if pc gaming ever picks up again, it'll be after the console cycle is nearly over and brand new tech only possible on scalable hardware is introduced, which will undoubtedly require fuck-ton's of expensive upgrades.

I was only talking about cod4 players can u confirm it every body who is active on xbox live has COD4!lol

dude, 13 million xbox live players playing COD 4 is a number given by activiosn themselves, 13 million is not the total amount of XBOX live players lol, total is like 30 million or something.

 

[Kane]

I also know some hot chicks from europe who only play NON violent games!Beat that.......
and now i am coming to XBOX live player i my self have 12 profiles enjoyed an entire free year of xbox live!

 

[hasanJ]

wrong timeline, right now PC gaming is in the decline and it's getting console ports, if pc gaming ever picks up again, it'll be after the console cycle is nearly over and brand new tech only possible on scalable hardware is introduced, which will undoubtedly require fuck-ton's of expensive upgrades.

u can do 1280X720 no AA on 4 Year old PC Hardware if u bought the rite stuff

so wht Xbox2/PS4 will be able to do 1920X1080 Native? big deal
40K worth of PC can do tht now
those future TECH for consoles iz BS

1280X720 noAA pakra dya aur yeh Next Gen realism hay?

 

[Kane]

UPDATE:From the same pirated dvd now actvision will be thinking me=12!lol
(beat that)