General Football Discussion

[cobby]

reports are man utd agreed deal of robert lewandoski the polish striker , i am big fan of that guy , he is way better than RVP in terms of talent age wise .

Chelsea have bought Brazilians and those guys are 50-50 in europe , chale to super hit warna flop infact all south americans players in BPL have mostly flopped , apart from recent good form of tevez and augero , but if u remember first season of tevez and macherano at west ham was so bad that they looked like bunch of amateurs

 

[AbbY]

2011:
/Sneijder near deal completion with United.
-> Wah wah wah! Bohat acha player hay! United treble jeetay gi. Bas poori midfield ki kami poori ho gai
/Sneijder doesn't sign
-> Mehh. Who needs Sneijder anyway. Old, injury prone. Cleverly ftw.

2012:
/RVP near deal completion with United.
-> Wah wah ! Aala player. Bas issi ki kami thi! Ab to pakka sab kuch jeetain gay. Killer Rooney-RVP partnership banay gi.
/RVP deal fades out and he promises to return to training.
-> Fazool hai useless deal. Too old. Too injury prone. Kagawa hai na.

 

[SEvolution]

Uruguayan FA have sent an official complaint to FIFA regarding booing of their national anthem and there capt Luis Suarez.

Ab aaega mirchoon wala chittar! AAAALLLLAAAAAD! @Shary Bhallu TC mazaq nahi chal raha hai sab. :lol:

In other news, Chelsea is 2-1 down from some unknown side to me Brighton FC. First half khallas

Tonight we dine in hell PSG vs. Barca (I just want them to perform give them tough time it will be asking too much to win as they have the best guys in every department yet they praise barca as the best footballing side of this era)

Abidal is travelling with the squad.

 

[DevilsDAD]

I Think Liverpool Will Somehow Try To Convince Agger To Stay Despite Having Good Offers (He is Surely and Will Be Liverpools One Of The Best)

[h=3][/h][h=3][/h]

 

[SEvolution]

Barca 2-2 PSG

Barca won on penalties 4-1 Pinto superman bangia.


Goals: Rafinha (6'), Messi (54') | Ibrahimovic (60'), Camara (81')

 

[SEvolution]

So the daddy racists i mean GBR is out Giggs can take the kids home will you and please ffs! retire now. Go home and be a family man. Joe Allen can complete his move now.

Korea wins. Yes i said Korea and their anthem didn't get boo'ed at as no player from their nation has insulted Malcolm X

 

[AbbY]

GBR out. HAH HAH HAH.

 

[Soulhunter]

reports are man utd agreed deal of robert lewandoski the polish striker , i am big fan of that guy , he is way better than RVP in terms of talent age wise .

Chelsea have bought Brazilians and those guys are 50-50 in europe , chale to super hit warna flop infact all south americans players in BPL have mostly flopped , apart from recent good form of tevez and augero , but if u remember first season of tevez and macherano at west ham was so bad that they looked like bunch of amateurs

do u even watch football? it was tevez that scored such important goals including a winner at ur OT against ur manu to keep them in the bpl.
yeah the biggest flop was veron that was bought by manu for 25+ million pounds. and lewandowski > rvp bahahahahaha what nonsense . greater talent oho yaar ye to messi se bhi bhetar ho jaye ga after manu signs him

kagawa to ko yaar ab player of the year milna chahiye ziyati hai

 

[hmir]

Too bad for Ryan Giggs. Born in the wrong part of the world to even hope of winning something on an international level.

 

[SEvolution]

do u even watch football? it was tevez that scored such important goals including a winner at ur OT against ur manu to keep them in the bpl.
yeah the biggest flop was veron that was bought by manu for 25+ million pounds. and lewandowski > rvp bahahahahaha what nonsense . greater talent oho yaar ye to messi se bhi bhetar ho jaye ga after manu signs him

kagawa to ko yaar ab player of the year milna chahiye ziyati hai

With no offence i don't count this cobby as a footy fan. South Americans failing at BPL lol still their own club is after moura and SP have rejected 32M bid reportedly. Its just chelsea bought Oscar who has proven himself at the Olympics coming to Chelsea so brazilians are 50-50 lol Rafael and fabio says hi btw and i can't find any link to lewandowski why would he leave dortmund? and better talent then top scorer of EPL yeah right! keep exaggerating that's the best you guys can do now. :lol:

 

[cobby]

do u even watch football? it was tevez that scored such important goals including a winner at ur OT against ur manu to keep them in the bpl.
yeah the biggest flop was veron that was bought by manu for 25+ million pounds. and lewandowski > rvp bahahahahaha what nonsense . greater talent oho yaar ye to messi se bhi bhetar ho jaye ga after manu signs him

kagawa to ko yaar ab player of the year milna chahiye ziyati hai

ohh stupidity at height , what happened to veron(man utd / chelsea) , forlan(man utd) , keleberson(man utd) , crespo(chelsea) , jo(city) , robhinhio(city) ,afono alves (boro) ,colochinhi , all of them struggled at BPL specially at first season

as far tevez thing was a flop in his first season as compare to his hype and how good he was next maradona bs etc , man utd already won title so that goal aint matters .

As far robert lewandoski i think u havent seen Bundesliga and his talent compare both guys age , robert can mature into real super lethal talent , agar har player behtar ho jata jo man utd sign karta hai , then kleberson , forlan , veron , quinton fortune , djemba etc sub super hit hote .

Arsenal fans are always pissed on targets they lose , they lost ronaldo and wenger still cry's about it , they lost kagawa to , arsenal was tracking him , but he choose man utd .

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With no offence i don't count this cobby as a footy fan. South Americans failing at BPL lol still their own club is after moura and SP have rejected 32M bid reportedly. Its just chelsea bought Oscar who has proven himself at the Olympics coming to Chelsea so brazilians are 50-50 lol Rafael and fabio says hi btw and i can't find any link to lewandowski why would he leave dortmund? and better talent then top scorer of EPL yeah right! keep exaggerating that's the best you guys can do now. :lol:

my club tracking moura doesnt mean i am happy , he could be just like veron , forlan , keleberson , 50/50 these south american player are big risk , specially if u are signing them for huge fee , there is always pressure from both fan side and press side to live up to there price tag

 

[Soulhunter]

as far tevez thing was a flop in his first season as compare to his hype and how good he was next maradona bs etc , man utd already won title so that goal aint matters .

yeah just that this goal prevented west ham from getting relegated so it doesnt matter blah. naswar ka effect to nhi khin meray dost ?

and about kagawa well we signed a better player didnt we Cazorla

Arsenal were about to close the deal on sahin in steps manu to snatch him away from us at the last moment. just follow wherever wenger has interest simple SAF. good show

 

[Shary Bhallu TC]

Kagawa and Cazorla are different sorts of players. One is a midfielder, other is a winger. One is young as hell, other is getting into his prime.

Kagawa scored 17 goals last season, along with 11 or 12 assists. Cazorla scored just 9 goals last season (almost half of what Kagawa scored)... (9 goals is still alot, but nothing compared to what Kagawa scored).

So yeah, Kagawa IS the better player, in terms of goals, assists, age and price.

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BTW Cobby was talking about the first Tevez's season in a City shirt, not last season.

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About Nuri Sahin, if Fergie is really interested in him (I doubt it), and if United sign him (again doubt it as deal is close to being signed for Arsenal), then it would show that Wenger is a piss poor negotiator, leaving a catch back in the water.

 

[SEvolution]

Kagawa and Cazorla are different sorts of players. One is a midfielder, other is a winger. One is young as hell, other is getting into his prime.

Kagawa scored 17 goals last season, along with 11 or 12 assists. Cazorla scored just 9 goals last season (almost half of what Kagawa scored)... (9 goals is still alot, but nothing compared to what Kagawa scored).

So yeah, Kagawa IS the better player, in terms of goals, assists, age and price.

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BTW Cobby was talking about the first Tevez's season in a City shirt, not last season.

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About Nuri Sahin, if Fergie is really interested in him (I doubt it), and if United sign him (again doubt it as deal is close to being signed for Arsenal), then it would show that Wenger is a piss poor negotiator, leaving a catch back in the water.

Wenger a piss poor negotiator LOOOL the whole world is praising the deals he pulled off this season. Guy hasn't won any biggie in 7 long yrs and still bringing in players after players. It's easy at united if you have some what sense left that how success can lure talent around you.

Bhai itna paglo wala fanboyism acha nahi.

Cazorla being compared with Shinji and you console yourself on goals, assists only it's not in his nature. A winger with better pass completion rate? (comes in top 5 includes Pirlo, Xavi, Messi and the likes) these qualities alone justify his versatility and represented his nation at 2 Euros and left out due to sickness in WC2010. Some report it to be 17.3M for a guy like this in current market coming from a surely better league than Bundesliga, playing crucial role at the club and transferred from Villareal for 22M euros a year back.

If you still think you did justice comparing him to Kagawa then sorry shary better stick to PC section only.

 

[Shary Bhallu TC]

And what about the players he is losing each year? Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie...

The players he is bringing in are good. But he is losing players BETTER than the players he is bringing in. 2 seasons back, Fabregas put in a transfer request. Last season Nasri put in a transfer request. And now Van Persie is going to do the same.

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Kagawa destroyed a team (Bayern) that beat the team (RMA) that just won your precious La Liga (by overtaking Barca). His team won 5-2 against Bayern Munich in the Cup Final. Kagawa scored and provided a few assists in that game too. Kagawa featured in the team of the year of Bundesliga last season. He won the Bundesliga 2 times in a row, took his team to triumph in the AFC Asian Cup, and scored 6 goals in 11 international games last year. Kagawa scored more goals in just previous 3 seasons compared to the whole life of Cazorla.

Comparing a player who is better than Cazorla, in terms of goals, assists, age, price - no competition in these areas mate.

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I want no player other than Lewandowski right now. Him and Kagawa had such an awesome partnership in Dortmund. Along with Kagawa, he was involved in 70 goals last season! (30 Kagawa, 40 Lewandowski)

 

[SEvolution]

And what about the players he is losing each year? Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie...

The players he is bringing in are good. But he is losing players BETTER than the players he is bringing in. 2 seasons back, Fabregas put in a transfer request. Last season Nasri put in a transfer request. And now Van Persie is going to do the same.

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Kagawa destroyed a team (Bayern) that beat the team (RMA) that just won your precious La Liga (by overtaking Barca). His team won 5-2 against Bayern Munich in the Cup Final. Kagawa scored and provided a few assists in that game too. Kagawa featured in the team of the year of Bundesliga last season. He won the Bundesliga 2 times in a row, took his team to triumph in the AFC Asian Cup, and scored 6 goals in 11 international games last year. Kagawa scored more goals in just previous 3 seasons compared to the whole life of Cazorla.

Comparing a player who is better than Cazorla, in terms of goals, assists, age, price - no competition in these areas mate.

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Lol this is my last post to this case first of all don't make yourself look like a laughing stock AGAIN by comparing a winger to attacking midfielder/forward. It's like comparing apples to oranges but i see you are hell bent on 'who scored more goals' theory. :lol: I can't call an IT guy to conduct audit now getting me? there's a difference here. Still not then please continue bragging on top of the world cuz we all know whenever they sign or about to sign People go like WHOOAAAA!!! BEST PLAYER OF THE CENTURY!!!

Arsene lost Henry too that is why i said it's easy to lure players when you are winning needless to say he has still managed to sign and keep RVP both and it was your club who lost Sneijdar, Hazard & most probably RVP too.



We all know how fanboys were chanting their name all over this thread and now what 'they are shit, injury prone, kaddu performance stats, meh who cares. Display of double standards yeah! we are pretty used to it remember 'racism' and 'disrespect'

I guess nightey was so right about you when he said you don't possess sound knowledge of this game. Next time i'll pass rather than make you understand the basics.

 

[Shary Bhallu TC]

I already said in my previous post that both are different sort of players, why was Soulhunter even saying that one is better than the other (similarly one could compare a goal keeper and a striker, GK would lose as per this analysis). Then I stated that IF YOU ARE COMPARING BOTH PLAYERS (despite them playing in different roles), then here are the things that I would look for when buying a player:

Goals,
Assists,
Injury rate,
Age,
Price,
Passing rate,
Flexibility,
Speed,
League.

Out of these, Kagawa wins in 7 out of 9 choices. You can add your own points and tell me why and how Cazorla is better than Kagawa in those places.

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Not sure where you read that the player is kaddu, baikaar stats etc etc, but it is widely known that Sneijder (and Robben) are both injury prone players, along with Van Dar Vaart. Hazard is a great player, but he did say that City and United could be where he would end up at, before Chelsea won the CL and swooped him up.

 

[talalthegreat]

THE RED DEVILS HAVE AGREED A DEAL WORTH 30 million for LUCAS MOURA

MANCHESTER UNITED ATTEMPT TO LURE NURI SAHIN AWAY FROM ARSENAL AFTER OFFERING TO BUY HIM OUTRIGHT

LIVERPOOL OFFER 12.5 million for GASTON RAMIREZ

 

[Shary Bhallu TC]

I'll believe Moura deal when I see it. Daily Mail is a bad news paper

 

[NighteySenpai]

And what about the players he is losing each year? Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie...

The players he is bringing in are good. But he is losing players BETTER than the players he is bringing in. 2 seasons back, Fabregas put in a transfer request. Last season Nasri put in a transfer request. And now Van Persie is going to do the same.

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Kagawa destroyed a team (Bayern) that beat the team (RMA) that just won your precious La Liga (by overtaking Barca). His team won 5-2 against Bayern Munich in the Cup Final. Kagawa scored and provided a few assists in that game too. Kagawa featured in the team of the year of Bundesliga last season. He won the Bundesliga 2 times in a row, took his team to triumph in the AFC Asian Cup, and scored 6 goals in 11 international games last year. Kagawa scored more goals in just previous 3 seasons compared to the whole life of Cazorla.

Comparing a player who is better than Cazorla, in terms of goals, assists, age, price - no competition in these areas mate.

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I want no player other than Lewandowski right now. Him and Kagawa had such an awesome partnership in Dortmund. Along with Kagawa, he was involved in 70 goals last season! (30 Kagawa, 40 Lewandowski)

Different circumstances require different actions. Arsenal have lost a few very good players in the last 5 years however, we have also signed and groomed players into much better players. You see, unlike United, Arsenal haven't won a trophy in 8 years yet we still have managed to attract A list players to our club this season. Giroud, Podolski, Cazorla. etc. If you still say that Wenger is a piss poor negotiator, I feel sorry for you. Seriously, you must need help. I thought and hoped you were smarter than this, seriously but if anything the last 6 months; I have truly been proven wrong.

Now I will tell you this in a simpler language. Arsenal trophies nahi jeetta. Man Utd jeetta hai. Utd ka salary structure behtaar hai. Utd ke pas zyada possibilities hain to attract better players. Arsenal ne lekin is saal bhot alaa players khareede hain. Utd not so much.

As for the Cazorla vs Kagawa issue. They are both very different players. Cazorla delivered superb performances with a poor team while Kagawa was playing in a superb team surrounded by fabulous players. I hardly count that as a fair matchup. It's like trying to compare a bolton player to a City one. Cazorla by the way is more flexible, has better speed, has better passing rate, is more mature and composed, and has more experience and he has delivered on the top level. Kagawa, not there yet.

P.S Shary please think before you post again.