FIFA World Cup™ 2014 - World Champions GERMANY!
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Ufffff I so wanna line all these wanna be fans and spank their asses!! I mean what the f**k! I swear man in jahilo se bas itna puch lo k Portugal mai Ronaldo k ilawa, aur Argentina mai Messi k ilawa kisi aur player ka naam bta do! M sure they will have no idea!! BC barsati maindak nai hote jaise jo barish k mausam mai nikal parte hain tar tar karne, isi tarah ye log har 4 saal baad nikal parte hain, sirf aik player k liye puri team ko support krain ge, at a time 5-6 teams ko support krain ge, hamesha winning side par rahain ge, after world cup sab bhool jain ge aur next 4 years tak kuch ata pata nai hoga k football ki world mai kia horaha hai! God i so wanna kill them, annoying as hell people were on my Facebook, thank God in se to jaan chute gi!!
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Btw, what a goal that was. Superb first touch, brilliantly controlled. Perfection!
Oh and after James, Messi was the best player this tournament. Not because he was particularly spectacular, but merely because the tournament abounded with lackluster performances all over. Messi wasn't offered much of a competition against him really. So it's not that big of an injustice, imo.
But if it were upto me, I would've given the award to Mats Hummels.
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Posts in Sports Talk, 29. Aur logon ko barsati mendak kehnay niklay hain.Ufffff I so wanna line all these wanna be fans and spank their asses!! I mean what the f**k! I swear man in jahilo se bas itna puch lo k Portugal mai Ronaldo k ilawa, aur Argentina mai Messi k ilawa kisi aur player ka naam bta do! M sure they will have no idea!! BC barsati maindak nai hote jaise jo barish k mausam mai nikal parte hain tar tar karne, isi tarah ye log har 4 saal baad nikal parte hain, sirf aik player k liye puri team ko support krain ge, at a time 5-6 teams ko support krain ge, hamesha winning side par rahain ge, after world cup sab bhool jain ge aur next 4 years tak kuch ata pata nai hoga k football ki world mai kia horaha hai! God i so wanna kill them, annoying as hell people were on my Facebook, thank God in se to jaan chute gi!!
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I don't want any personalized attacks here from now on. If you can beat someone with a factual argument, do so. Or clear off.
Why are u getting so butt hurt? Or are u one of them?? I was referring to the Facebook crowd, not once I mentioned any of you guys jo itni aag lag rahi hai!!! Har baat apne upar na lejaya karo!
and what an idiotic logic you have that u have more posts in sports section so you are the god of sports and I have 29 posts so I know jack shit about sports!!! At least don't post non sense, you are acting like a kid now, is ka ziada bara ghar hai to ye ziada ameer hai, is ka ghar chota hai to ye ghareeb hai!! Wow hats off boy!! Is logic k hisab se to meri total posts 1057 hain compared to 6707 of yours so you are the only almighty here the rest of us are idiots, han??
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Maza agyaaa maine tu day 1st se Germany k nary mary hain
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Congratulation to all German supporters yoyo
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Congratulation to all German supporters
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hmmmmm khety tu thek ho ap mgr yhn hi koi 6 team ko support kr rha hai
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"Treat everyone with courtesy and respect. Whether a community member has one post or 5,000 posts, everyone should be treated respectfully"
now according to this rule of YOURS, you are wrong to judge me for my low post count in sports section!!! It doesn't matter I have 29 posts here or 2900 posts here, u cannot judge me for not being a sports person!!
"Personal attacks, name-calling, abuse, bullying and flaming or hostile behavior will not be tolerated. Constructive criticism is welcome but generalized, vicious or veiled attacks on a person or idea will not be tolerated"
If I got personal with someone here, abused someone then sure go ahead ban me but FYI I was just talking about those fan boys on Facebook, I didnt personally attacked any member in this thread which u have assumed by urself!! Neither m here to beat someone! Dunno why u got so offended by my post which was clearly not targeted toward you or any other member! Over and out!! (bye)
"Treat everyone with courtesy and respect. Whether a community member has one post or 5,000 posts, everyone should be treated respectfully"
now according to this rule of YOURS, you are wrong to judge me for my low post count in sports section!!! It doesn't matter I have 29 posts here or 2900 posts here, u cannot judge me for not being a sports person!!
"Personal attacks, name-calling, abuse, bullying and flaming or hostile behavior will not be tolerated. Constructive criticism is welcome but generalized, vicious or veiled attacks on a person or idea will not be tolerated"
If I got personal with someone here, abused someone then sure go ahead ban me but FYI I was just talking about those fan boys on Facebook, I didnt personally attacked any member in this thread which u have assumed by urself!! Neither m here to beat someone! Dunno why u got so offended by my post which was clearly not targeted toward you or any other member! Over and out!! (bye)
if you actually saw any of those previous World Cups, you'd probably remember seeing how much their teams relied on them, and they duly delivered.... Argentina got out of the easiest group possible (barring the Belgium one) in uninspiring fashion, scored TWO goals in the Knockouts (one scored by Di Maria after Messi was fed the ball in the dying minutes by a tired defender, and the other a solo effort off a ricochet)..... Messi for Argentina was nowhere near what Rodriguez was for Colombia, what Teiger and Hummels were for Germany, and what Robben and Kuyt were for Netherlands.....
all the previous golden balls left you with this feeling that yeah, the award did go to the right man.... this time, not even close.... if they HAD to give it to an Argentinian, they probably should have given it to Mascherano or Di Maria, who were both the only two reasons Argentina got this far....
I don't think that way. For me, a person with 1 post or 10,000 posts commands the same level of courtesy and respect. Terms like "Barsati mendak" and "Seasonal Football fans" are derogatory, classless and in poor taste.
No person has exclusive rights to a specific section, thread, some topic or a particular sport. And he has no authority to stop any person from voicing his opinion or tell him to pack his bags.
I wasn't attacking or judging you. Merely giving you a taste of your own medicine. Ironically, you fulfill the said criteria yourself. I'm sure now you know how it feels to take the medicine you prescribe others
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If they're happy doing so, let them be. Be happy and content that you have a better reason to support the team of your choice.Ok I get it, but u have to admit people who support a whole team for just 1 player or girls who support a team just because their players are hot do exist!! My words were for them!
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The great paradox that will unfairly define Lionel Messi
by Jen Evelyn | Posted on Monday, July 14th, 2014
Lionel Messi’s Argentina came closer to a World Cup title on Sunday than they have been in the last 24 years. The only minutes they were behind in the tournament were the seven minutes after Mario Götze’s goal at extra time, in the final. The sight of Messi walking past the World Cup trophy with an empty glare in his eyes will stay in the collective memory of the world of football, and paradoxically, unfairly, define him.
Messi didn’t win on Sunday, and the feel remains that he can’t ever really win anyway. In the World Cup, he didn’t fight against any player of his time, not against any team. He fought against a myth.
That myth is the great paradox that could end up defining Messi. That myth is called Diego Maradona. With a win in the World Cup, many would have been ready to put Messi to where Maradona is – to the cloud of immortality that time has sweetened.
But the reality is that Messi should be there with or without a World Cup. The reason he isn’t, is because the myth he was supposed to match was not of this World.
When you think of Maradona, you think of his goal against England. You think of the images of him lifting the World Cup. Even if you never lived in his era, that’s what the world around you has fed you. The idea of a perfect player who won on his own. The idea of the mythical God-figure who never failed. A bit of a rough-edged footballing rockstar who was forgiven for all his flaws because he was and is Maradona.
That’s because when we think of Maradona, or Pelé for the matter, we see the icing on the cake, not the entire cake itself. We see the documentaries and highlight-reels of their greatest matches, their greatest goals. We don’t see their failures. Their matches aren’t on the Internet, maybe except for the greatest ones. The historical ones. From Messi, we see everything.
In the last years it’s been easier to get bored of Messi’s brilliance because it’s fed to us in larger doses. It’s been fed to us every weekend, and after that, we’ve been able to go back for more, see it all again on the web. With no more than a click.
The bad matches are within that click too. The bad matches that Diego Maradona and Pelé played, too, but that the legend doesn’t remember. How many, in the modern day, can say that they saw Maradona as much as they see Messi now? Every weekend, with his club, with his country, throughout the year? Would the legend be different if Maradona lived in Messi’s era? Would the collective memory trace of his career be different, if it contained every single match? Was he ever – as great as his peak was – ever as consistently mind-blowing as Messi at his best has been?
And that’s the great paradox of Messi that he will never overcome. We see more of him. We see all of him. All of his goals, all of his solo-goals, all of his countless moments of genius. From Barcelona, and yes, from the international matches too. Because of that, he should be the most celebrated footballer of our time. Those moments – one could argue – put him on par with the corresponding moments of Maradona. I would go as far as saying that Messi has more of those moments than Maradona.
But still, in the day and age when we see every single match Messi plays, when we can celebrate his moments of heavenly brilliance over and over again, the collective will judge him by the seven games he played in Brazil. More radically, by the final he played in Rio De Janeiro. The final he lost.
Messi is in a place that none of us can really imagine. The media is on his skin like the defender that man-marks him and kicks him a bit too hard, just to kick him again because the man refuses to fall down. Perhaps the greatest and most radical example of the myth is that Messi has faced enormous criticism because he doesn’t run as much as the rest on the pitch. Maradona, on the other hand, used cocaine, and at the end of his career, had quite a belly to show for a wild lifestyle. That only made his legend stronger.
That’s why Messi is the most criticized player that has ever touched a football. It doesn’t matter what he does, there’s always a but. Even when he lead his team to the final, there was the “yeah, but”. “He didn’t score in the knockout matches”. As if the collective was already preparing an excuse in case he happened to win. There would still have been a “yeah, but”.
And when you look at what Messi has achieved whilst being the most criticized player in the world, it’s mind-boggling. Six La Ligas, three Champions Leagues, two Club World Cups, Olympic Gold, Under-20 World Cup, four Ballons d’Or, three European Golden Shoes. Add to that the goalscoring records, the amount of assists, and he’s achieved more than anyone, except for the one thing that will forever define him: the World Cup.
The seven games in the midst of hundreds will define him.
When he hangs up his boots one day, or maybe only decades later, we’ll really understand. We’ll live decades, realizing that no one quite matches what he did. Then we’ll look at the Youtube clips and documentaries made of him, and say “goodness, he was amazing. He scored more than anyone. He won more than anyone.” And maybe then the collective will realize that they won’t see a greater player in their lifetime.
For what he has done in an era that is organized, largely defensive and more tactical than perhaps in the decades before, Messi is quite possibly the greatest player of all times. But because he failed to replicate a myth, he might never get the place in history that he deserves. And that’s simply unfair, but shouldn’t stop us from celebrating his greatness today.
By Jen Evelyn – Follow @JenFCB
by Jen Evelyn | Posted on Monday, July 14th, 2014
Lionel Messi’s Argentina came closer to a World Cup title on Sunday than they have been in the last 24 years. The only minutes they were behind in the tournament were the seven minutes after Mario Götze’s goal at extra time, in the final. The sight of Messi walking past the World Cup trophy with an empty glare in his eyes will stay in the collective memory of the world of football, and paradoxically, unfairly, define him.
Messi didn’t win on Sunday, and the feel remains that he can’t ever really win anyway. In the World Cup, he didn’t fight against any player of his time, not against any team. He fought against a myth.
That myth is the great paradox that could end up defining Messi. That myth is called Diego Maradona. With a win in the World Cup, many would have been ready to put Messi to where Maradona is – to the cloud of immortality that time has sweetened.
But the reality is that Messi should be there with or without a World Cup. The reason he isn’t, is because the myth he was supposed to match was not of this World.
When you think of Maradona, you think of his goal against England. You think of the images of him lifting the World Cup. Even if you never lived in his era, that’s what the world around you has fed you. The idea of a perfect player who won on his own. The idea of the mythical God-figure who never failed. A bit of a rough-edged footballing rockstar who was forgiven for all his flaws because he was and is Maradona.
That’s because when we think of Maradona, or Pelé for the matter, we see the icing on the cake, not the entire cake itself. We see the documentaries and highlight-reels of their greatest matches, their greatest goals. We don’t see their failures. Their matches aren’t on the Internet, maybe except for the greatest ones. The historical ones. From Messi, we see everything.
In the last years it’s been easier to get bored of Messi’s brilliance because it’s fed to us in larger doses. It’s been fed to us every weekend, and after that, we’ve been able to go back for more, see it all again on the web. With no more than a click.
The bad matches are within that click too. The bad matches that Diego Maradona and Pelé played, too, but that the legend doesn’t remember. How many, in the modern day, can say that they saw Maradona as much as they see Messi now? Every weekend, with his club, with his country, throughout the year? Would the legend be different if Maradona lived in Messi’s era? Would the collective memory trace of his career be different, if it contained every single match? Was he ever – as great as his peak was – ever as consistently mind-blowing as Messi at his best has been?
And that’s the great paradox of Messi that he will never overcome. We see more of him. We see all of him. All of his goals, all of his solo-goals, all of his countless moments of genius. From Barcelona, and yes, from the international matches too. Because of that, he should be the most celebrated footballer of our time. Those moments – one could argue – put him on par with the corresponding moments of Maradona. I would go as far as saying that Messi has more of those moments than Maradona.
But still, in the day and age when we see every single match Messi plays, when we can celebrate his moments of heavenly brilliance over and over again, the collective will judge him by the seven games he played in Brazil. More radically, by the final he played in Rio De Janeiro. The final he lost.
Messi is in a place that none of us can really imagine. The media is on his skin like the defender that man-marks him and kicks him a bit too hard, just to kick him again because the man refuses to fall down. Perhaps the greatest and most radical example of the myth is that Messi has faced enormous criticism because he doesn’t run as much as the rest on the pitch. Maradona, on the other hand, used cocaine, and at the end of his career, had quite a belly to show for a wild lifestyle. That only made his legend stronger.
That’s why Messi is the most criticized player that has ever touched a football. It doesn’t matter what he does, there’s always a but. Even when he lead his team to the final, there was the “yeah, but”. “He didn’t score in the knockout matches”. As if the collective was already preparing an excuse in case he happened to win. There would still have been a “yeah, but”.
And when you look at what Messi has achieved whilst being the most criticized player in the world, it’s mind-boggling. Six La Ligas, three Champions Leagues, two Club World Cups, Olympic Gold, Under-20 World Cup, four Ballons d’Or, three European Golden Shoes. Add to that the goalscoring records, the amount of assists, and he’s achieved more than anyone, except for the one thing that will forever define him: the World Cup.
The seven games in the midst of hundreds will define him.
When he hangs up his boots one day, or maybe only decades later, we’ll really understand. We’ll live decades, realizing that no one quite matches what he did. Then we’ll look at the Youtube clips and documentaries made of him, and say “goodness, he was amazing. He scored more than anyone. He won more than anyone.” And maybe then the collective will realize that they won’t see a greater player in their lifetime.
For what he has done in an era that is organized, largely defensive and more tactical than perhaps in the decades before, Messi is quite possibly the greatest player of all times. But because he failed to replicate a myth, he might never get the place in history that he deserves. And that’s simply unfair, but shouldn’t stop us from celebrating his greatness today.
By Jen Evelyn – Follow @JenFCB
^Good article. We analyze players under a microscope these days. And it's unfair in a lot many ways.
The game is also much quicker now, and there is greater strength, endurance, stamina and what not as the field of sports science has evolved and matured.
Players back in those days used to smoke cigarettes and drink and that obviously did not improve their game.
The game is much different now, and while maybe players of today may or may not be able to compete in that earlier era of football, players of that era definitely would have struggled in this era of football.
Players back in those days used to smoke cigarettes and drink and that obviously did not improve their game.
The game is much different now, and while maybe players of today may or may not be able to compete in that earlier era of football, players of that era definitely would have struggled in this era of football.
Messi was throughouly useless throughout the knockout stages. Not only that but off the ball, Messi is pretty much a liability. He doesn't trackback much or even move off the ball a lot. You can just see him walking around. I think it's time people stop riding on Messi's little weiner. Sure, he is an amazing player, the greatest of our times, one of the players with the greatest left foots, one of the best offensive players but he isn't the complete player. He pretty much failed in the big games. At least in this tournament he did.
Muller deserved the golden ball more so than Messi. So did Robben as a matter of fact.
i think the same is true, atleast in some regard, for the opposite.... you see the physicality of that era, and the bad pitches.... I was discussing with a few friends about the "beautiful defending" and how Thiago Silva is probably the last defender left in that category... what actually ended that? it's the rise of the diving culture... defenders are scared to go in with the tackle now, because the attackers go down so easily....
in those old days, we saw defenders like Aldair and Maldini actually bullying attackers... would prima donnas like Ronaldo, Bale, and small players like Messi be able to ride those kinds of challenges? and so much of the slick, fluid game nowadays depends on the quality of the turf.... the pitch in those older days used to be shit.... i doubt Messi would be able to glide through the midfield as he does today, through uneven grass, and puddles of mud....
at the end of the day, we can't really say things like "maybe it was easier then" because the game has become so different, i dont think any sort of comparison is valid any more
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also the facilities available nowadays.... give players like josevio and pele the benefits of modern day facilities, and you don't know any more
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