Why are we struggling as a nation?

fahad1512

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Need your views, some of the basic perceptions are that external forces have always had a deep impact on our politics, culture and a society in general whereas some belive that we as a nation are not strong enough to meet any challenge , some say that army has always played a crucial role in destroying the economy etc.. while some are of the opinion that politics has eaten up our nation..u'll be surprised that I once read an article by a university student and his title of the article was "Pakistan is a cursed nation".... So where do we lack really?????
 

maryfarrukh

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We are getting away from our basics, our religion, and tend to become more and more like western people.
We want to become liberals. We like to see that others call us liberals, not knowing the fact that this liberalism, Allah forbid, will destroy us entirely one day
 

Shary Bhallu TC

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Awaam ki mentality ghatia hai.

Hypocrisy is rampart here.

People need to correct themselves first. You'll see people spitting out that red paan shit from their mouths on road, you will also see the same person going to mosque, praying 5 times a day etc.

Point being, religion ko follow to kartay hain log, but that alone won't make the difference.

Educate karo logon ko, what are the harmful effects of cigarette, guthka, chaalia, and other shit.
Also educate the masses to reduce birth rate.

Cuz we are already struggling with 2 children in the family, and those people keep on making more. <__<
 

assuc

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First the topic should be why are we not sruggling as a nation?
Because everyone, majority wants to have a golden spoon in mouth no one wants to struggle and do hardwork , and above all we are hypocrates or we have become one we don't appreciate the success of our brother instead we degrade them and gets jealous.
 

GrunT

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because we aren't a nation, we've always been divided.

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Also educate the masses to reduce birth rate.

Cuz we are already struggling with 2 children in the family, and those people keep on making more. <__<
sadly our Maulvis don't agree with this, what them and other illiterate people fail to realize is that they might make all the babies they want but when those babies will die of hunger, their parents are certainly going to end up in hell.
 

fahad1512

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First the topic should be why are we not sruggling as a nation?
Because everyone, majority wants to have a golden spoon in mouth no one wants to struggle and do hardwork , and above all we are hypocrates or we have become one we don't appreciate the success of our brother instead we degrade them and gets jealous.

But we do see a lot of pakistanis working hard in foreign countries, what do u make of that?
 

assuc

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Now IMO Pakistani's working hard abroad spending days and nights crazily because they see their are rules that are being implemented to everyone not meant for a single class,caste or race. One for all. And abroad hardwork matters not that typical "puwaa" (source).
Similarly i don't say that there is no corruption at all there is at some level but when it comes to self respect and for country then they just don't care about the person who is forcing them to do such things
 

fahad1512

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Every nation in this world Struggles man so we are so nothing strange.Our good time will also come.

Bro should we just wait and hope for things to happen?....and bro identification of the problems would lead to the solution.
 

fahad1512

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Now IMO Pakistani's working hard abroad spending days and nights crazily because they see their are rules that are being implemented to everyone not meant for a single class,caste or race. One for all. And abroad hardwork matters not that typical "puwaa" (source).
Similarly i don't say that there is no corruption at all there is at some level but when it comes to self respect and for country then they just don't care about the person who is forcing them to do such things

So basically u r refuting ur first argument about Pakistanis not being hardworking!..... and you are implying from your second post that its the system that is the real issue?

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Hypocrisy , Sectarian mindsets, corruption, Illiteracy, Lying and cheating. And stuff like that :-/
By sectarian mindset u mean shia-sunni fasadaat etc...?

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because we aren't a nation, we've always been divided.

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sadly our Maulvis don't agree with this, what them and other illiterate people fail to realize is that they might make all the babies they want but when those babies will die of hunger, their parents are certainly going to end up in hell.


but we do show solidarity on some events/occasions don't we?
 

assuc

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Actually, u didn't got it. Pakistani's don't praise what they have got within themselves but just sees what other have, they just don't wanna make their own home stable in others words not struggling hard,not being honest to themselves and their own people instead working at other place they go united they literally become too much showy and when they return to their home they just act like what they were back years later
 

wfsoomro

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[MENTION=24542]fahad1512[/MENTION] By sectarian i mean that as well as all this Sindhi muhajir pathan etc and the politicians using it to it's full extent in their advantage.
 

genious

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Take any nation who is now on top they was nothing like they r now take chinese for example two decades ago west call them animals and blah blah.That nation also seen all types of problems but they conquer the world with good leaders but here we select corrupt leaders who sell this nation for dollars thats it.

Jaisy Awam Waisay hukmran.First we should correct ourselves than this whole nation will be on track.
 

Shary Bhallu TC

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So is bad English. ;)

The problem is that everyone just blames someone else. Ask yourself, what have you ever done to improve the situation or the image of Pakistan?
More like typo. :)

I have done nothing to improve it. But I have done nothing to harm it either.
 

fahad1512

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Take any nation who is now on top they was nothing like they r now take chinese for example two decades ago west call them animals and blah blah.That nation also seen all types of problems but they conquer the world with good leaders but here we select corrupt leaders who sell this nation for dollars thats it.

Jaisy Awam Waisay hukmran.First we should correct ourselves than this whole nation will be on track.


yes I agree, but they weren't just hoping for things to go better they tried their utmost best to make things happen!
 

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we were a united nation once... people like bhutto changed that and destroyed this country from its roots... we still suffer from those effects and our roots are worst than ever...
 

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