What do you do when you're stuck in a desert?

[Radical]

Roark is right!

 

[Syavash]

Physical attraction never lasts. Lust is a need once satiated withers away with time.

If you are bored might i suggest some books, Ayn Rand's - The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged. Thomas Hardy - The Mayor Of Casterbridge. If you really want to read more i suggest the works of Tolstoy and Bertrand Russell. The End Of The Affair - Thomas Green is an exceptional book about love and life.

If philosophy isn't your thing go for A Song Of Ice & Fire by George R. R. Martin. It's the Game of Thrones books, 5 are out and are all exceptional.

Thanks will try them out, The End of the Affair sounds nice.

@ Roark I cannot argue with anything you have said, but Sex ... a basic need? That is wrong, right there.

Obviously not as basic as food, but its a basic need nonetheless.

 

[sshah]

It is, as unbelievable as it considering the society we live in, i have yet to read a philosopher or great thinker who thought otherwise. I've read a lot of them. Lust is a natural feeling that we all experience. We try to curb and repress it and that leads to frustration and anger. It's not our natural state. It's really no different than being sleep deprived and grumpy or hungry and angry.

I'm not supporting acting out on lust but to control our demons, it's important we recognize them first.

I know how all this has become the paradigm of instrumental human thinking. But Lust is a form of desire, let it be physical or mental. I can't imagine how it can be equate with the necessities of living our life. It CAN be suppressed, whereas hunger, the want to live, to survive, which are also basic instincts simply outweigh it. Perhaps, it is humanity that has beaten it in to their heads. I can't see anything natural about holding it on the same tier as survival. The thought itself is beyond unnatural.

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Also, Sex is a want, not a need.

 

[Roark]

Also, Sex is a want, not a need.

Sex is the act of procreation. It's evolutionary survival, in order to pass on our genes we need to have sex. It is a need, a need based on the primal instinct of survival. Theoretically you can live without food and sleep but it's not our natural state. Nutrients can be intravenously injected to sustain us and there are insomniacs who don't sleep at all. All of these things cause psychological problems. Restraining from sex for extended periods causes the same.

The need to have sex is in all species, evolution argues that it's so primal and built in to ensure that the species survives. Lust is a very primal feeling one that usually contradicts logic, like hunger and sleep. Your logical brain switches off and the animal brain turns on.

You will steal when you're hungry for food. People on Lust and even women act out irrationally for sex. This is the reason that alcohol consumption promotes sexual intercourse. You're logic ability is hindered and your animal instincts are augmented.

It is a universal fact that when alcohol is consumed, inhibitions go down. We show our true colours and personas. The social barriers are taken down and our most primal needs come out.

I don't charter rape or rampant sexual experiences but this is what lurks inside us. Our upbringing completely neuters this in us so we all have generally serious psychological barriers when we think about sex without being aware of them.

There is much literature on the fact that the reason we get attracted to good looking humans is to ensure the survival of the fittest. It happens in animals too, the alpha males usually have the right to the best females and females also choose the best males. Exactly why even humans are physically attracted to the best looking specimens. We inherently want our lineage to get better and better with time.

 

[Shary Bhallu TC]

^
Injection via syringe of you know what could lead to continual of species too So its not a need after all.

 

[sshah]

@ Roark Your argument is rendered null and void with the injection of food vs versus sex. True, a person can stay hungry for sometime, but how long with your body last? 4 days? 5 days at max? Okay, let's stretch it a bit, 7 days? Mind you, even this many days without water is virtually impossible. Without water, you will get dehydrated and die within 92 hours at max.

Hence, even if you manage to stifle, or borderline obsessively suppress your hungry, you body will give out, and you will die. I am not going to get into the debate of injections, because after all, it is common Joe's knowledge that food is consumed FOR nutrients. Whether you take them raw, or chose food, that logic is pointless.

Now coming to the procreation part. That is a choice, plain and simple. I can always choose not to procreate. If that is your main logic, then it is again pointless, as many people avoid pregnancies by using contraceptives. Hence, this sex for passing on the genes is again a poor logic. These days, sex has become a commodity that borders on obsession. When through out the history, people abstained from sex and lived pretty normal lives. Which brings us back to square one, want VS need. And sex, most certainly cannot be put into the latter category.

 

[Roark]

@ Roark Your argument is rendered null and void with the injection of food vs versus sex. True, a person can stay hungry for sometime, but how long with your body last? 4 days? 5 days at max? Okay, let's stretch it a bit, 7 days? Mind you, even this many days without water is virtually impossible. Without water, you will get dehydrated and die within 92 hours at max.

Hence, even if you manage to stifle, or borderline obsessively suppress your hungry, you body will give out, and you will die. I am not going to get into the debate of injections, because after all, it is common Joe's knowledge that food is consumed FOR nutrients. Whether you take them raw, or chose food, that logic is pointless.

Now coming to the procreation part. That is a choice, plain and simple. I can always choose not to procreate. If that is your main logic, then it is again pointless, as many people avoid pregnancies by using contraceptives. Hence, this sex for passing on the genes is again a poor logic. These days, sex has become a commodity that borders on obsession. When through out the history, people abstained from sex and lived pretty normal lives. Which brings us back to square one, want VS need. And sex, most certainly cannot be put into the latter category.

Hmm you present a sound argument and yes comparing food and sex isn't the best option to be fair.

The reason is that sex nowadays has started to be perceived as a want rather than a need. Media and society have turned it into a want.

You don't eat all the time, that's gluttony and a disorder. Likewise, you don't have sex all the time.

Your argument appears sound but has a major hole in it. You assume that the human brain is one coherent harmonious organ. We have two separate brain functions. Free Will and intelligence allows us to mesh both of them to a degree but not completely. The fight or flight mechanism is one of most common animal brain functions, these are automatic and we have little control over them. We have animal instincts and we act out on them. When in harm the brain forces the body to make automatic responses.

To continue this argument we first need to agree that are our brain functions based on one theory or do we have separate activities that logic shuts off in.

It seems you don't agree with the fact that some things are instinct and defy logic for humanity.

 

[Ali Man]

The other way round actually, why does it matter? And please no sick jokes.

Oh i see, was just saying that you may never get bored if you had one.
She can be indoor and outdoor reliable

 

[sshah]

@ Roark First of all, media has turned sex into a need, not a want. When, given the pleasurable sensations for both the parties, its primary function is procreation and procreation only. Now coming to your instincts part. Sex is not a primal instinct, survival is... in its pure and raw for. The desire to survive, to avoid death, the will to live...all of these are forms of one main primal instinct, survival. Now, the function you are talking about, has absolutely nothing to do with sex per say.

It is a basic spinal cord function, what you would call a lightening fast response. The brain does not control that at all. For example, when you touch something and its blazing warm, you would automatically, on reflex drop it, and would feel the burning sensation later. This is what we call as quick response reactions. Sex is a very organized act. You know what you are doing, how you are doing it, how you are supposed to proceed. As a man, will you pleasure your partner to a crescendo or not, or are you going to be selfish etc etc etc... The list is just too long.

In fact, if not told, and never actually having the knowledge of sex from any medium, a man wouldn't even know what to do with a woman, if presented to him nude, on a silver platter. The phallus may respond, it will salute, but will the man know? Of course not. This alone disproves your instinct theory. In animals, sex is a PART of primal instinct. It is in their genetic code. Bring two mammals into your house. Keep them away from everything, and watch, they WILL procreate regardless of external influence. Because, they are programmed that way.

Humans on the other hand, have only survival instincts programmed into them, that's it. I am sorry, but you are giving sex too much credit here.

 

[Roark]

I assure you my friend, keep a man and a woman in isolation and raise them up as animals and they will still have intercourse. Sex doesn't need to be taught to us. The basic function is pretty basic and instinctual.

When u watch a naked beautiful girl you get aroused and an erection. You automatically want to penetrate. A girl when aroused also wants to be penetrated. Our intelligence allows us to control and enhance the act. But yeah its instinctual.

 

[STREET KING]

build sand castles!!....joke aside...desert is a wonderful place man...even the scenario is so good at night....i wish i was there

 

[sshah]

^ You don't get out much do you? That is pretty illogical. I told you, the arousal will be there, but the actual act? There was an incident not long ago that a couple went to see a doctor. They were wedded off young, but after five years of marriage, they couldn't have a child. They went to see a doctor, and the first thing he/she asked them, was about their sex life. They replied, "what's that." That is a very very true incident.

A lot of monks in monasteries in the 11th century, knew nothing about sex. Regardless that they lived with female nuns there. Nothing happened. What you are saying, is unrealistic, and far-fetched.

 

[ASKnASK]

Learn cooking A dish a day

 

[Ali Man]

I assure you my friend, keep a man and a woman in isolation and raise them up as animals and they will still have intercourse. Sex doesn't need to be taught to us. The basic function is pretty basic and instinctual.

When u watch a naked beautiful girl you get aroused and an erection. You automatically want to penetrate. A girl when aroused also wants to be penetrated. Our intelligence allows us to control and enhance the act. But yeah its instinctual.

Looks like you wanna have sex real bad man (like seriously).

When u watch a naked beautiful girl you get aroused and an erection

I really doubt that to happen LOL.

 

[HOTSHOT]

try to dance with arab chicks. :lol:

 

[WH4Y]

Oh the thread creator might be feeling stupid to start a thread, Team PG where are you??

On topic.... I have nothing to say (thought about astronomy but some one stole that idea so am out now)

 

[Shyber]

Well, look at the bright side. Now we know what most of the PGers would do if left in the desert.

 

[Blastwave]

Well, look at the bright side. Now we know what most of the PGers would do if left in the desert.

Psychological profiling.

Nice.

 

[Baron1]

^ You don't get out much do you? That is pretty illogical. I told you, the arousal will be there, but the actual act? There was an incident not long ago that a couple went to see a doctor. They were wedded off young, but after five years of marriage, they couldn't have a child. They went to see a doctor, and the first thing he/she asked them, was about their sex life. They replied, "what's that." That is a very very true incident.

A lot of monks in monasteries in the 11th century, knew nothing about sex. Regardless that they lived with female nuns there. Nothing happened. What you are saying, is unrealistic, and far-fetched.

You serious ??

 

[Optimus]

Try making a hidden blade, and stab camels with it. Everyone here knows how obsessed you're with AC series.