Does Evolution rule out the existence of Extraterrestrial life?

kalmati14

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yeah i can imagine now ... cause u registered on Pakgamers just to reply my stupid comment to which u didnt agree ...
btw in what way i have offended ur belief or ur ideology that u think I SOUND STUPID
If you must know actually I created this account in 2010 and how is darwin's theory flawed ?

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Seriously check out 'the pale blue dot' on youtube by late Carl Sagan.. you'll love it.
My favourite video on internet. Here is the link guys http://vimeo.com/26946849

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He's trying to say that the theory leaps onto stuff.. whats stupid about that? (sarcasm :D)
He should be considered for nobel prize in physics.
 

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If u believe in Allah it doesn't mean he is the right one..
i believe in Allah cause He is right ... my belief in Him doesnt make Him right ...
n if u dnt believe in Him it doesnt make Him wrong or make u right ...

plz dnt make a controversial discussion ... every man made theory n laws has flaws ...
if man was so self sufficient ... why there is no order or betterment in its condition over the centuries ... why it has not evolved into some thing SUPER MAN kinda stuff ... for more than 10,000 yrs we still have two legs n two arms n still we shit brown ...
plz dnt go beyond the actual topic ...

how many times man changed his theories ... changed his laws ... ur seem a better historical n scientific scholar n ur knowledge must be more in depth than any of us ... so u tell us ... will a time come when man will re-visit darwinz theories n re-draft them ... or such time will never come ...
 
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i believe in Allah cause He is right ... my belief in Him doesnt make Him right ...
n if u dnt believe in Him it doesnt make Him wrong or make u right ...

plz dnt make a controversial discussion ... every man made theory n laws has flaws ...
if man was so self sufficient ... why there is no order or betterment in its condition over the centuries ... why it has not evolved into some thing SUPER MAN kinda stuff ... for more than 10,000 yrs we still have two legs n two arms n still we shit brown ...
plz dnt go beyond the actual topic ...

how many times man changed his theories ... changed his laws ... ur seem a better historical n scientific scholar n ur knowledge must be more in depth than any of us ... so u tell us ... will a time come when man will re-visit darwinz theories n re-draft them ... or such time will never come ...
Come on man, the OP didn't ask if the theory was true or not, and he made it clear that he'd like people who do understand evolution to give their view on what they think of possible extraterrestrial life.
no one is saying anything about religion.., you bringing up religion and telling the OP how wrong the theory of evolution is, is causing the scene so let's not start such debates eh?
 
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Come on man, the OP didn't ask if the theory was true or not, and he made it clear that he'd like people who do understand evolution to give their view on what they think of possible extraterrestrial life.
no one is saying anything about religion.., you bringing up religion and telling the OP how wrong the theory of evolution is, is causing the scene so let's not start such debates eh?
the question is wrong i think
these r two different things ... life outside this earth n its relation to evolution on this earth has no link to my limited knowledge ... unless someone says a comet brought life on earth ...
i think life can exist on other planets ... but question is ... what form of life ur expecting to see ... a cellular one or ur expecting a fully EVOLVED intelligent beings like us ... in that case darwin miraculously found that his evolution theory applies to every form of life anywhere in this universe ...
n thats y i objected the evolution n thus related it to religion [n i must categorically say again i didnt contest anyonez religious belief its just an explanation from the books we already have] ...
cause if u believe that the evolution is true then whole concept of religion simply vanishes n becomes MAN MADE ... religion cant co-exist with this theory ... its a modest n SCIENTIFIC way of denying God ... [may he be christian, jewish, hindu or muslim god]

okay lets take out God out of discussion ... what is NATURAL SELECTION in this evolution ... who dictates that which genetic trait is GOOD for new evolved specie n which is not ... why the specie cant decide itself what it needs ... n how EYES have evolved ... n from where this so called DNA came from ... why man n ape from a common ancestor end up so different ... n is there any fossil proof of transitional phases of these evolutionary changes ... like an ape like evolving man with some tail ... cause we r the youngest evolved n our fossils should be there
 
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All this religion BS will go down the toilet drain the day we made contact with a hostile ET. Its just a matter of time.

If you must know, the Voyager 1 crossed the heliopause, which means its now travelling in intetspellar space. And its transmitting the coordinates and different sounds of our planet. What do you think happens when you're all alone in a big jungle and cry out?

Let's keep this topic strictly scientific. Those who want a religious discussion can do so in their thread. Nobody's stopping them. But don't expect me to take kindly to your nonsense in here either.

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^^There's an episode of vsause called "Last WOrds" According to Micheal the first transmission strong enough to travel far into space and be picked up by aliens will probably be Hitler's speech during the summer the olympics. They've also made a few other vids on the topic of aliens. You guys should watch them.
 

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Religious BS ???
Why ur offended ?
I had no idea so many evolutionists r just waiting to send things down the drain ...
If people have tolerance for ur scientific BS plz have tolerance for answers of ur unanswered questions by religion ...
Only observation I've seen among evolutionists n creationists I've seen is thy dnt have patience if someone disagrees to them ... The so called God believers of all these religions believed in Him without looking for any scientific proof ... Call them naive or whatever ... N since you evolutionists have mountains of evidence to support then plz put us wise preach us that r there any transitional fossil proof which shows a Neanderthal Man evolved into ape n man ...
Ur using such strong emotions against religion believers but why dnt u try speaking with logics ... People like Jhonson of Intelligent Design n Sherman of NAtural selection had patience to present their point of view why can't u have patience like the people u follow ???



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^^There's an episode of vsause called "Last WOrds" According to Micheal the first transmission strong enough to travel far into space and be picked up by aliens will probably be Hitler's speech during the summer the olympics. They've also made a few other vids on the topic of aliens. You guys should watch them.
What's vsause? By the way, in the novel "Contact" that's exactly what happens (Aliens pick up Hitler's Olympic speech).

@opethian: Your opinions are brutally ill-informed. Have you ever read a proper scientific book on Evolution? If not, then it's the mark of the wise to refrain from jumping to conclusions like this. If you do that, you'll only be making a fool of yourself.
 
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Theory of evolution does not say anything about Aliens, or whether they exist or not. But it could say that if life on other planets does exist, then that life would evolve and find a way to counter threats or harsh changes in climate. Because that is what life does - most of the time it finds a way.
 

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What's vsause? By the way, in the novel "Contact" that's exactly what happens (Aliens pick up Hitler's Olympic speech).

@opethian: Your opinions are brutally ill-informed. Have you ever read a proper scientific book on Evolution? If not, then it's the mark of the wise to refrain from jumping to conclusions like this. If you do that, you'll only be making a fool of yourself.
vsauce is a great science webshow, you should give it a look on youtube.
 

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What's vsause? By the way, in the novel "Contact" that's exactly what happens (Aliens pick up Hitler's Olympic speech).

@opethian: Your opinions are brutally ill-informed. Have you ever read a proper scientific book on Evolution? If not, then it's the mark of the wise to refrain from jumping to conclusions like this. If you do that, you'll only be making a fool of yourself.
Yar for a moment try to explain ur point of view to me ... Try to just give logics instead of mocking me ... Okay consider I have no idea of evolution n stuff so ist try to explain why u believe in Macro evolution (that every life form has common ancestor) ... Aap explain tou karo na Bhai to someone who dnt believe in evolution ... What is this way keh of I have a different opinion than urs u ask me to go n read ist ... will u read heavenly books if I ask u to read n find answers there because u have different opinion than mine??? Im not asking u to BELIEVE what i believe t ... Why dnt u put me wise since u r already a skilled n learned follower n believer of evolution ...


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It's my request to all evolutionists to plz stop mocking people who dnt agree to ur point of view n present ur "Knowledge based" ideas with patience ... I dnt have time to go n read an idea which I dnt believe in ... Why dnt u help me believe in it ...


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Yar for a moment try to explain ur point of view to me ... Try to just give logics instead of mocking me ... Okay consider I have no idea of evolution n stuff so ist try to explain why u believe in Macro evolution (that every life form has common ancestor) ... Aap explain tou karo na Bhai to someone who dnt believe in evolution ... What is this way keh of I have a different opinion than urs u ask me to go n read ist ... Why dnt u put me wise since u r already a skilled n learned follower n believer of evolution ...


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He does not has explain anything to you. If are interested in understanding evolution you should read " On the origin of species" by Charles darwin or " The greatest show on earth" by Richard Dawkins
 

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He does not has explain anything to you. If are interested in understanding evolution you should read " On the origin of species" by Charles darwin or " The greatest show on earth" by Richard Dawkins
:)

Yar u r too much ... I'm simply asking u guys to explain n make that big book simple for me ... Is it too much to ask ??? ... I'm asking u to teach me evolution n ur saying GO READ IT UR SELF :) ... What an elite u guys have evolved into :)



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Yar for a moment try to explain ur point of view to me ... Try to just give logics instead of mocking me ... Okay consider I have no idea of evolution n stuff so ist try to explain why u believe in Macro evolution (that every life form has common ancestor) ... Aap explain tou karo na Bhai to someone who dnt believe in evolution ... What is this way keh of I have a different opinion than urs u ask me to go n read ist ... Why dnt u put me wise since u r already a skilled n learned follower n believer of evolution ...
I'm really sorry if my post came across harsh. And I agree, I should be providing you reasons to believe in Evolution, but only if it were a debate ON Evolution. It is not, so there's no point. You are welcome to remain skeptical of Evolution. I was only trying to say that, at the very least, you should know Evolution for what it is if you are a critic of it. For only then can your criticism be taken seriously. And you should read first not because you have a "different" opinion, but only because your opinion (regarding Evolution proper, not about how it compares to Islamic genesis etc.) is based on misinformation.

Moreover, any serious debate on Evolution tends to get fairly involved, because Evolution is a very complex theory and I am by no means learned in the matters of Evolution and neither do I have the time these days. (The books mentioned by kalmati are excellent and very readable, by the way).

No hard feelings, because I love Opeth! :D
 
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