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[Ranger Taffles]

Let's be honest guys. Halo 4 is GOTY 2012 here.

Let's be honest like really really.

 

[Shary Bhallu TC]

I'm not sure how many glitches you may have endured on yoru PC but I played the game for over 80 hours on My 360 and only found a few minor glitches throughout that time, not even a single glitch that woul count as "Game breaking".

Bad graphics? Have you seen the art in SKYRIM? good visuals =/= A fuck ton of AA and resolution.Poor story? Please.SKYRIM's story was great, Idon't know why you thought it was poor of all things, if you want poor stories go play play games like BF3, Crysis 2 or Dark Souls if you like games with no story at all.

Witcher's art is miles better than Skyrim's. Witcher's graphics are also miles ahead of Skyrim's.

Skyrim's story being good :lol: don't make me laugh... Pathetic presentation, poor scripted events, bad dragon fights (dull), a handful of voice actors doing all the voice acting, dull graphics. Only the world was the good thing in Skyrim, for which I still play it sometimes, everything else was poor. There was practically no polish in Skyrim. Combat was poor, there were a handful of enemies (nords, dragons, animals, humans) and same strategy applied to all of them (click clickitty click).

When I played Skyrim, I had to install 6 or 7 visual mods just to bring it to the standard of graphics I am used to in normal games on the PC...

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I'm not sure how many glitches you may have endured on yoru PC but I played the game for over 80 hours on My 360 and only found a few minor glitches throughout that time, not even a single glitch that woul count as "Game breaking".

Bad graphics? Have you seen the art in SKYRIM? good visuals =/= A fuck ton of AA and resolution.Poor story? Please.SKYRIM's story was great, Idon't know why you thought it was poor of all things, if you want poor stories go play play games like BF3, Crysis 2 or Dark Souls if you like games with no story at all.

Witcher's art is miles better than Skyrim's. Witcher's graphics are also miles ahead of Skyrim's.

Skyrim's story being good :lol: don't make me laugh... Pathetic presentation, poor scripted events, bad dragon fights (dull), a handful of voice actors doing all the voice acting, dull graphics. Only the world was the good thing in Skyrim, for which I still play it sometimes, everything else was poor. There was practically no polish in Skyrim. Combat was poor, there were a handful of enemies (nords, dragons, animals, humans) and same strategy applied to all of them (click clickitty click).

When I played Skyrim, I had to install 6 or 7 visual mods just to bring it to the standard of graphics I am used to in normal games on the PC...

 

[faraany3k]

Let's be honest guys. Halo 4 is GOTY 2012 here.

Let's be honest like really really.

360 GOTY that is.

 

[Chandoo]

According to the thread @CerebralTiger makes here every year, I believe the GoTY 2010 was Red Dead Redemption, not Mass Effect 2 Your hypocrisy is exposed. Now leave in peace both of you

You mean the thread where sources were deliberately omitted and added as needed to make a favorable outcome ?

because the metacritic certified rankings as tallied by GAF were as follows ..

Mass Effect 2 - 44.5**
Red Dead Redemption - 35.5*

I shall take my leave now.

 

[Magma]

(lmao) @ 'much more possible'.

None of the points you mentioned change the fact that no one had played ME3 before making such statements and therefore both of you were AND are still being fanboyish towards ME3. So you two are the last people that should be pointing fingers here.

And ME3 ending was a clusterfuck and horrible and practically ruined the franchise for many. Bioware being forced to release content explaining the ending proves that.


There is a lot more info than just artworks. Are YOU choosing to be blind?

Moreover, UC2 was the unanimous GoTY as far as the critics are concerned but what happened with UC3? Skyrim and Portal 2 both did better critically. So there goes your plausibility theory.

If you look at that thread, I didn't see you complainting about the thread title. That must make you a fanboy also. Just because Gizmo and I didn't complaint doesn't make us fanboys. ME3 being GOTY 12' was anticipated by a lot of people. And if you look at the metascore so far, its comfortably ahead of competition.

Furthermore, the "no one played it" argument is flawed. Why? Because if you look at previous track record of the ME franchise, ME3 being GOTY was no brainer. Hell, its still on track being the GOTY as it has the highest metascore so far. The ending was the only thing that marred an otherwise brilliant game, which Bioware rectified quite promptly.

Also, the fact that all of you guys are calling a game GOTY 14', which has minimal info and not even a developer that has produced a single 90+ metascore game is sheer fanboyism.

 

[faraany3k]

If you look at that thread, I didn't see you complainting about the thread title. That must make you a fanboy also. Just because Gizmo and I didn't complaint doesn't make us fanboys. ME3 being GOTY 12' was anticipated by a lot of people. And if you look at the metascore so far, its comfortably ahead of competition.

Furthermore, the "no one played it" argument is flawed. Why? Because if you look at previous track record of the ME franchise, ME3 being GOTY was no brainer. Hell, its still on track being the GOTY as it has the highest metascore so far. The ending was the only thing that marred an otherwise brilliant game, which Bioware rectified quite promptly.

Also, the fact that all of you guys are calling a game GOTY 14', which has minimal info and not even a developer that has produced a single 90+ metascore game is sheer fanboyism.

And yet you are here talking about a game you are not remotely interested in. Go on say a few more enlightened words. Whole world is listening to you

 

[CerebralTiger]

The more Cyber punk games, the better I say. While the setting may have been explored by several developers, it is Deus Ex: Human Revolution that came closest to realizing its true potential. That's the game CDPR has to top, not Mass Effect, imo.

I shall take my leave now.

Not so fast

GAF's list contained a large number of sources that weren't Metacritic certified (newspapers that never review games, and only do GoTY columns :lol. Perhaps if you count those, then ME2 gets a lead over RDR. Otherwise, RDR edges out ME2 in the overall tally. Both games were pretty close, though, I'll give you that.

The list in PG's thread comprised only of sources that have presence on Metacritic and have also reviewed the game in question, as well as the 3 major Awards shows - VGAs, GDCA, and AIAS.

 

[Necrokiller]

If you look at that thread, I didn't see you complainting about the thread title. That must make you a fanboy also.

I didn't complain then and I'm not complaining now either. But you guys are. Thats the difference. Because I know Chandoo likes the game, he holds it highly above all other games, even though he didn't say its his GoTY either. You guys have a problem with other people doing so.

Furthermore, the "no one played it" argument is flawed. Why? Because if you look at previous track record of the ME franchise, ME3 being GOTY was no brainer.

The example of Uncharted 3 makes your theory flawed as well. Arkham City, Portal 2 and Skyrim all faired better critically. So holding the sequel as a GoTY automatically, even before its released, is nothing short of blind fanboyism either.

Also, the fact that all of you guys are calling a game GOTY 14', which has minimal info and not even a developer that has produced a single 90+ metascore game is sheer fanboyism.

lol it also means you guys are being too touchy It could release in 2014 or even 2015. Why so serious?

A game doesn't have to have 90+ metascore to be a GoTY contender (Demons/Dark Souls are the best recent examples of that).

Witcher 2 won lots of awards in many categories. Your attempt to degrade CDPR/Witcher 2 based on GoTY awards and Metascore alone is getting desperate to be honest.
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The important thing to note is that CDPR came through on nearly all of their claims regarding the game. Going by the ambitious scale of this project, and the fact that they don't bullshit their audience, and have made 2 excellent games before (Witcher/Witcher 2), makes the fans believe they will produce something special once again. I, for one, have full faith in them.

 

[Magma]

And yet you are here talking about a game you are not remotely interested in. Go on say a few more enlightened words. Whole world is listening to you

Where did I say I'm not even "remotely interested" in it? I'm just against the idea of it being labelled as GOTY 14' even before substantial info has been released.

 

[Geralt of Rivia]

The only reason Witcher 2 didn't win goty or so much meta-critic and such is because it comes from a new developer. If it were from a huge name such as bioware, then everyone would've hailed it as a great game. I'm hoping that in coming days CDPR will prove itself to be a great developer and by that time, everyone will hail other titles from them as super hits.

 

[Gizmo]

According to the thread @CerebralTiger makes here every year, I believe the GoTY 2010 was Red Dead Redemption, not Mass Effect 2 Your hypocrisy is exposed. Now leave in peace both of you

As far as I remeber, ME 2 was PGs GOTY 2010.And most publications that I cared about at the time gave ME2 the GOTY award so yes ME 2 was GOTY 2010.

 

[Gizmo]

Witcher's art is miles better than Skyrim's. Witcher's graphics are also miles ahead of Skyrim's.

Skyrim's story being good :lol: don't make me laugh... Pathetic presentation, poor scripted events, bad dragon fights (dull), a handful of voice actors doing all the voice acting, dull graphics. Only the world was the good thing in Skyrim, for which I still play it sometimes, everything else was poor. There was practically no polish in Skyrim. Combat was poor, there were a handful of enemies (nords, dragons, animals, humans) and same strategy applied to all of them (click clickitty click).

When I played Skyrim, I had to install 6 or 7 visual mods just to bring it to the standard of graphics I am used to in normal games on the PC...

SKYRIM may have lacked polish but in the and I've already said before the story in the Witcher 2 was better, but despite all this SKYRIM is still the better game, The world created is SKYRIM is vast and beautiful to look at and has some of the most meorable vistas despite being technically inferior, The best thing about SKYRIM is that SKYRIm is a cimplete eco system, a complete world that you are ony a small part of, not alot of games give you that kind of feeling, it's impossible to have that level of immersion in The witcher 2's mostly linear levels which have been thinly vailed to represent large spaces. The Witcher 2 is like Mass Effect in midevil times minus the good bits that make Mass Effect so good i.e compelling charcters, fantastic lore, choices made in the game affecting your outcomes (Ending of ME 3 not withstanding) and a Universe that people can actually give a shit about.

 

[genious]

Witcher 1 and 2 was amazing total faith in CDPR bring it on.:wink2:

and Witcher 2 is miles ahead of skyrim in Story,Combat and graphics.

 

[Shary Bhallu TC]

The Witcher 2 is like Mass Effect in midevil times minus the good bits that make Mass Effect so good i.e compelling charcters, fantastic lore, choices made in the game affecting your outcomes (Ending of ME 3 not withstanding) and a Universe that people can actually give a shit about.

Witcher 2 had awesome characters. I dunno why you are comparing the game to Mass Effect 3 whereas ME3 was an action game, and W2 is an RPG.

While Witcher series' lore isn't as strong as TES or ME series, its still very strong. TES is running for around 20 years I think, while ME is based on a universe, so both has proper reasons to have bigger lores. But Witcher's is quite deep too.

Choices you make in Witcher 2 made me think whether I have played these parts or not. The choice in the middle could make you play Act 2 (I think) totally differently (completely different area). And even then you can make more choices to make even more variations in your playthroughs. Its more varied than Skyrim and Mass Effect 2/3 combined. If you don't believe me, side with the other party and see completely different levels in Witcher 2 before Act 2 starts if you decide to play the game again.

I sincerely believe that Witcher 2 is atleast better than Skyrim and other proper mideaval WRPGs this gen when you consider all the elements, not just the world but the story, gameplay, graphics, polish, character development, scripted events, enemy variations and RPG elements too. And for this reason I believe their new RPG will be really amazing.

The only place where Skyrim literally crushes other games is its amazing world, but in all other aspects (minus mod support on PC), it gets crushed.

 

[Necrokiller]

SKYRIM may have lacked polish but in the and I've already said before the story in the Witcher 2 was better, but despite all this SKYRIM is still the better game, The world created is SKYRIM is vast and beautiful to look at and has some of the most meorable vistas despite being technically inferior, The best thing about SKYRIM is that SKYRIm is a cimplete eco system, a complete world that you are ony a small part of, not alot of games give you that kind of feeling, it's impossible to have that level of immersion in The witcher 2's mostly linear levels which have been thinly vailed to represent large spaces. The Witcher 2 is like Mass Effect in midevil times minus the good bits that make Mass Effect so good i.e compelling charcters, fantastic lore, choices made in the game affecting your outcomes (Ending of ME 3 not withstanding) and a Universe that people can actually give a shit about.

This is like comparing a linear CoD SP campaign with Far Cry 2 or STALKER, just because they are first person shooters :lol:

Witcher 2 was never designed as a completely open world game, unlike Skryim. As a result, like you said yourself, Witcher 2's story was much better and the game was more story driven and with much much better fleshed out characters. Apart from the broad RPG categorization, both are vastly different games in design. I found Witcher 2 to be a way better experience overall, as a combination of combat, visuals, non-linear branching stories, characters, quests and locales than the mostly copy-pasted world of Skyrim. All this didn't make me wish for an open world in Witcher 2. Ofcourse, if you're looking for a massive world to explore endlessly, there is no better alternative than Skryim. Although, its story and characters are totally forgettable.

As for Mass Effect, a better comparison would be the vastly superior shooter RPG Deus Ex: HR. It makes Mass Effect's level design intellect that of an infant

 

[manigamer]

Let's be honest guys. Halo 4 is GOTY 2012 here.

Let's be honest like really really.

Thread HIJACKING ALERT ! :mushy:

 

[Necrokiller]

First trailer coming out next week:

Cannot wait for the reveal! HYPED!!

 

[Shary Bhallu TC]

Great. I hope its really good.

Can't wait for this.

 

[Chandoo]

In light of the amazing 360 conversion of Witcher 2, it would be stupid for Cyberpunk to not utilize the optimized tech for a console release as well.

Have they confirmed platforms ?

 

[BumperJumper]

^Most likely on next generation of consoles.