Playstation The PS4 PRO Thread ! Let the Super-Charged PS4 Pro Lead The Way

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Still out of touch as ever :p
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Ya don't bring this in here... its console peasants thread lets keep it that way. 399$ cant achive true but wat a pc can achive a console can only dream.. its so easy to jump from one game to another from one task to another .. here console gamer losses there shit if they get a Huge patch which wll have a youtube app in a console.
 

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Another great Pro patch for my Pro peeps. Diablo 3 UE is now patched for Pro (picked up a copy for $15 at gamestop to celebrate :p).

Diablo 3 PS4 Pro Patch: Is There a 4K Upgrade? - YouTube

- Dynamic resolution. Game goes from 1080p to native 4K depending on on-screen load. Most reported resolution is 1872p but in non combat areas the game stays at native 4K.
- Rock solid 60 FPS, no drops reported. Tripple buffer, so no tearing either.
- Better occlusion, lighting effects, bloom etc also over OG PS4 version.
- For 1080p TV owners, the game down samples as well, so good new for y'all.

Since I can't bring my PS3 character over, had to start a new one. Here's 2 4K screens from the first 10 mins of the game.

JPEG's, not .PNG's unfortunately, 4K PNG's are like 15MB, so expect some JPEG artifacts. But the smoothness and lack of aliasing can be easily observed from the long wooden edges.


 
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way sharper and better performing than a $399 PC could ever achieve :p
Well in this particular case the Pro isnt doing jack, so even this toaster outperforms it :p
Digital Foundry said:
Running through the game using our preferred budget PC set-up, featuring a Core i3 4130 and an Nvidia GTX 750 Ti, we found that we could achieve visual quality and frame-rates equivalent to the PS4 version of the game. Meanwhile, overclocking the GPU consistently took us above the 30fps threshold.
 

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Wait, a $400 PC can achieve that?
If yes, then please PM me the build.
It's called clutching on straws :p the closest builds you find which try to match a Pro at $450 on youtube is made via parts either given as gifts or second hand used parts imported from China :p

The PS4 Pro at this point is the best budget to performance ratio device for HD gaming. Of course if you're going to use an example of a game that was never patched for Pro updates, it's a moot point :p At that point the threshold drops to $270, which a PS4 Slim is retailing at most outlets here.
 
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It's called clutching on straws :p the closest builds you find which try to match a Pro at $450 on youtube is made via parts either given as gifts or second hand used parts imported from China :p
Even then, that PC can run the multiplats at equal quality as a PS4 or Pro? Even then I wouldn't mind and try to get stuff second hand.

The PS4 Pro at this point is the best budget to performance ratio device for HD gaming. Of course if you're going to use an example of a game that was never patched for Pro updates, it's a moot point :p At that point the threshold drops to $270, which a PS4 Slim is retailing at most outlets here.
Are there really that few HD games on the vanilla PS4?
 

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Even then, that PC can run the multiplats at equal quality as a PS4 or Pro? Even then I wouldn't mind and try to get stuff second hand.
IIRC the user had been gifted some parts from his channel subscribers and other parts he bought 2nd hand, so the overall cost was still probably higher.


Are there really that few HD games on the vanilla PS4?
I meant to say UHD games :p

ps, have you played Let It Die yet Shyber ? Free to play which plays like a Souls game. I downloaded and give it a bit of a go, seemed fun enough. I don't think it has coop, wouldn't mind playing it with PG peeps.
 
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Wait, a $400 PC can achieve that?
If yes, then please PM me the build.
Even then, that PC can run the multiplats at equal quality as a PS4 or Pro? Even then I wouldn't mind and try to get stuff second hand.
Sure, what bare mininum performance target do you have in mind? Vanilla PS4 or Pro? The Pro's visuals/performance standards are all over the place.

The best Pro patches I've seen Chandoo praise here are on games easily 2-4 years old already :p
 
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It's called clutching on straws :p the closest builds you find which try to match a Pro at $450 on youtube is made via parts either given as gifts or second hand used parts imported from China :p


The PS4 Pro at this point is the best budget to performance ratio device for HD gaming. Of course if you're going to use an example of a game that was never patched for Pro updates, it's a moot point :p At that point the threshold drops to $270, which a PS4 Slim is retailing at most outlets here.
Pro has the exact same hardware as vanilla PS4 except for the GPU (CPU overclock is on the same old jaguar architecture).

Who's gonna buy 2 different consoles? If you get the Pro and you're still only matching a $270 machine, thats not exactly a good budget to performance ratio.
 

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Pro has the exact same hardware as vanilla PS4 except for the GPU (CPU overclock is on the same old jaguar architecture).

Who's gonna buy 2 different consoles? If you get the Pro and you're still only matching a $270 machine, thats not exactly a good budget to performance ratio.
Still out of touch as ever... :p

just to briefly go over, it's got twice or more powerful of a GPU, the CPU has received a boost of 700mhz, the RAM is also a faster speed, can't recall at the top of my head right now, also that the console frees up 1GB more of RAM for game/4K usage by adding 1GB of slower DDR3 RAM for suspending apps, and Pro supports 5GHz WiFi where OG only supported 2.4GHz. OG PS4 is 1.8 TFlops, Pro is 4.2 TFlops, that's more than 2X the upgrade.
 
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Still out of touch as ever... :p

just to briefly go over, it's got twice or more powerful of a GPU, the CPU has received a boost of 700mhz, the RAM is also a faster speed, can't recall at the top of my head right now, also that the console frees up 1GB more of RAM for game/4K usage by adding 1GB of slower DDR3 RAM for suspending apps, and Pro supports 5GHz WiFi where OG only supported 2.4GHz. OG PS4 is 1.8 TFlops, Pro is 4.2 TFlops, that's more than 2X the upgrade.
Freeing up RAM via software and overclocking doesn't change your hardware, hate to break it to you :p
There is a GPU upgrade like I mentioned, other than that OG PS4 had 8GB GDDR5 in total, so does the Pro. OG has 8 core laptop Jaguar cores holding it back, so does on the Pro.

CPU
PS4 Eight Jaguar cores clocked at 1.6GHz
PS4 Pro Eight Jaguar cores clocked at 2.1GHz

GPU
PS4 18 Radeon GCN compute units at 800MHz
PS4 Pro 36 improved GCN compute units at 911MHz

Memory
PS4 8GB GDDR5 at 176GB/s
PS4 Pro 8GB GDDR5 at 218GB/s

PS4 Pro games list, specs comparison and everything else we know about Sony's new hardware • Eurogamer.net
 
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Edit: the same article mentions what I said:

There is, of course, a little bit more to it than that, as our recent extensive look inside the PS4 Pro discusses; there is an additional 1GB of DDR3 RAM specifically for swapping out non-game apps,
OG PS4 has 8GB too but the OS footprint makes it so that the console only used 5GB of it.

This is freeing up GDDR5 for games leaving slower memory for housing suspended applications. The CPU is the same architecture but the overclocked cores are doing a great job ironing out CPU loaded games like BF 1 which now runs at a (very) solid 60 FPS in multiplayer. The RAM is also faster, while it's not double the speed, all these upgrades, faster memory included, especially the way superior GPU at a mere $100 upgrade from OG is not something you can replicate on a PC.

Can a $279.99 PC run Witcher 3 at 1080p ? or a $399 PC run COD Infinite Warfare at dynamic to native 4K ?. I won't say diablo 3 because that can probably run really well on a toaster, but that also goes dynamic to native 4K on a Pro now. This includes already released 100+ Pro enhanced games, and all future releases will be enhanced as well.

Until Scorpio releases and depending on it's price, Pro is the best price-to-performance gaming device in the market atm.
 
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The CPU is the same architecture but the overclocked cores are doing a great job ironing out CPU loaded games like BF 1 which now runs at a (very) solid 60 FPS in multiplayer.
I watched the BF1 tech analysis and its far from solid 60fps on the Pro at the time when it matters during hectic battles which is basically most of the time. I certainly couldn't play it like that over a long stretch. Jaguar is still a bottleneck here, improvements only highlight the terrible state of the game on the OG Ps4.

And lets not forget the added cost of $60/yr for the MP which you dont have to pay for on PC.

Can a $279.99 PC run Witcher 3 at 1080p ?
4th gen Core i3/750Ti was already matching/outperforming the PS4 at launch in many scenarios, esp Witcher 3. And this combo is actually weaker than a PS4. Consoles aren't shelved like PC parts are over time but if you can find those exact components now its really not out of the question.

Until Scorpio releases and depending on it's price, Pro is the best price-to-performance gaming device in the market atm.
Gaming console, yes. Not if you factor in PC. I can list a build more expensive than Pro outpeforming it, just as well I can show you a build cheaper than a Pro which will perform lower than that. People are overstating its capability.

Even PCs on par with PS4 or Pro are consuming more or less the same power than consoles now. Theres been great innovation on the PC front which is exactly what made the Pro possible in the first place.
 

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BF1 with the latest patch now adheres very close to 60 FPS. It's not rock solid but it's definitely the best version of the game on console. This will be a recurring trend until Scorpio releases, the Pro is the best place to play console games atm.

And lets not forget the added cost of $60/yr for the MP which you dont have to pay for on PC.
Premium cost for a premium service (sm1) I kid, PSN speeds suck.

Let's also not forget that PS+ and XBL subscriptions come with 25+ free games a year, including huge discounts on all online orders. PSN+ orders have 10% discount on all PS store purchases regardless of whether other promotions are going on.

Gaming console, yes. Not if you factor in PC. I can list a build more expensive than Pro outpeforming it, just as well I can show you a build cheaper than a Pro which will perform lower than that. People are overstating its capability.
People aren't overstating it, I'd say these 'mid-gen' console upgrades are getting a bad rap. Especially if you have developer(s) claiming it's equivalent to a $900 PC. It's a cheap, affordable yet 'premium' device which offers UHD gaming and it retails for the same price an original PS4 did when it launched.
 
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Let's also not forget that PS+ and XBL subscriptions come with 25+ free games a year, including huge discounts on all online orders. PSN+ orders have 10% discount on all PS store purchases regardless of whether other promotions are going on.
I dont want any of those random no name mediocre titles (esp which many people with a PC can get em for free anyways) but why should I do be locked out of the MP for the game I already paid to play? Utter shit policy no matter how you spin it. And youve made building a PC for BF1 at $460 that much easier :p

People aren't overstating it, I'd say these 'mid-gen' console upgrades are getting a bad rap. Especially if you have developer(s) claiming it's equivalent to a $900 PC. It's a cheap, affordable yet 'premium' device which offers UHD gaming and it retails for the same price an original PS4 did when it launched.
ARK? Really now? :lol:
 

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I dont want any of those random no name mediocre titles (esp which many people with a PC can get em for free anyways) but why should I do be locked out of the MP for the game I already paid to play? Utter shit policy no matter how you spin it. And youve made building a PC for BF1 at $460 that much easier :p
Don't be so dismissive :p They're not AAA games, but just one AAA covers the price of the purchase :p like i said, this gives all owners a universal discount on all purchases, you won't have to wait for the next Steam sale either :p

PS, you're arguing about PS+ prices with the wrong person :p I'm the least likely person to subscribe for services like this, I'm in it just for the sweet affordable UHD gaming experiences.


ARK? Really now?
I could post comments from first party developers but I doubt those will be met with any better remarks :p
 

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Sure, what bare mininum performance target do you have in mind? Vanilla PS4 or Pro? The Pro's visuals/performance standards are all over the place.

The best Pro patches I've seen Chandoo praise here are on games easily 2-4 years old already :p
Not fussed over UHD so much. Anything that gives at least equal details as a PS4 at 1080p and 30FPS (or 60FPS in case it runs so on the PS4) would do for me. Specific titles? BF1, COD, Watch Dogs 2, Forza Horizon 3 (I know I know, Xbox One equivalent in this case lol), Overwatch, TitanFall 2, Deus Ex, etc.
 

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Gravity Rush 2 PS4 and Pro compared.

Pro renders geometry at 2160p, effects and motion blur is stil OG PS4 level. Both versions run at solid 30 bar some rare instances where physics kicks in a lot.

The best Pro patches I've seen Chandoo praise here are on games easily 2-4 years old already :p
Missed this before, but this is clearly not true ;P ..some older games in there because this is my first exposure to them.

[MENTION=1054]Shyber[/MENTION], check this out, more expensive but seems like a decent deal:

HP, Intel I5 6400, RX 480, Windows 10, 1TB HDD/128 SSD $600/Free shipping
 
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Gravity Rush 2 PS4 and Pro compared.

Pro renders geometry at 2160p, effects and motion blur is stil OG PS4 level. Both versions run at solid 30 bar some rare instances where physics kicks in a lot.



Missed this before, but this is clearly not true ;P ..some older games in there because this is my first exposure to them.

@Shyber, check this out, more expensive but seems like a decent deal:

HP, Intel I5 6400, RX 480, Windows 10, 1TB HDD/128 SSD $600/Free shipping
More expensive? It's twice as expensive...
 

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:p

Well if you want an afforable device just for gaming and not to miss out on Sony's first part stuff .. the answer is clear :p
 
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