Playstation The Official Help Thread *Please read first post* Post all your PS3 related questions

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Alright guys after seeing tons of pointless/lame threads of newbies on the PlayStation , I've made a thread about this .

Well , from now on , this is the official PLAYSTATION 3 Help Thread. Post here if you need any help regarding PLAYSTATION 3. But before posting your query, make sure you've read the relevant stickies in this section and not post a redundant question that has been already answered.

Welcome to the official help thread for the mighty PS3 !

Every now and then, everyone needs help with something regarding the PS3, whether it be about cleaning it, hacking it, information about it, software related, hardware related etc
This thread serves to help you in the best possible way and efficiently so it saves you the time that you will take to post about a certain query.
We did our best to answer many of the common questions regarding the PS3 but time and again everything changes and many new questions and theories rise up.

For hacking related questions please visit: http://www.pakgamers.com/forums/f35/ps3-hack-homebrew-discussion-thread-65330/

Some of the questions that many people ask:
1. Where to get a PS3 and does it have warranty here in Pakistan?
To get the best deals on brand news PS3s, I recommend that you visit the threads of our premium sellers in the marketplace.
Warranty is only offered if you buy PS3 from SONY Center. However, it's almost impossible that your PS3 breaks down within the warranty time frame.
Plus, SONY Center is pricey.

2. Why should I get a PS3?
Two reasons. Exclusives and a complete entertainment center.
PS3 can almost do anything you can imagine, virtually of course so stop thinking that you will get a massage or a personal maid...
It is the one of the cheapest BLU-RAY player in the market, provides you with complete entertainment options, whether it be watching movies in Hi-Def, viewing pictures, playing games, listening to music, interacting with people in the virtual world, you name it...
And now with release of latest firmware versions, PS3 is now a fully 3D capable device, 3D games and 3D movies and 3D pictures can be viewed on the PS3.

3. Regions ! What's so evil about them?
Regions are basically the most important thing concerning PS3.
No no you shouldn't be scared now.

The PS3 world is divided into three main different regions...
Region 1, Region 2 and Region 3 (Region 4 also exists but it kinda falls in the Region 3)
Region 1 is the USA and Canada. (NTSC-U)
Region 2 is Europe and Middle East. (PAL)
Region 3 is the whole Asia. (NTSC-J)

4. Okay, so which Region PS3 should I go for?
The most popular Region PS3 here in Pakistan is Region 2.
That is because PAL works better here.
Also depending on the Region are locks...

Be free of any tension and worry that if you buy a Region 1 console, only Region 1 games will work on it...
Sony made the games Region free...meaning?
You can have any Region console you want and you can get any Region game to play on it and it will play it without a hassle and trouble of Region locks...

However, the original Blu-Ray movies ARE region locked...meaning?
If you have a Region 2 PS3 and you get a BLU-RAY movie from USA that is a Region 1 movie, your PS3 will not play it because of the Region locking for movies including DVDs.

5. Okay, so I got a PS3, now what?
Do the monkey with me !
Now you can explore the world of gaming and entertainment.
Gaming comes first...
Check out the extensive games library on the PS3.
Sign up for the PSN.
Visit the store, download themes and avatars, customize your profile etc.

6. I'm not seeing Pakistan in the country list for the PSN :/?
That is because Sony hasn't officially released the PS3 in Pakistan yet.
That's why warranty isn't offered here either.

7. So what should I do about the PSN then? How can I sign-up when my country isn't in the list?
Do what the others do !
LIE ! Or more precisely improvise...

Select the most favourite country of yours and sign-up through there. Problem solved.

8. What about the address/ZIP code etc it asks me?
Google is your best friend...
Search queries like New York ZIP codes etc and you're done.

9. Wait you just talked about Regions above, what about PSN accounts? Are they Region locked too?
Nopes. The accounts aren't Region locked which means you can have a Region 3 account on a Region 2 console or a Region 1 account on a Region 2 account and this goes on...
The PSN Region only matters when DLC comes into play.

10. Wait now what is DLC?
Downloadable Content, DLC, is the add-on that many game developers now offer for their released games such as new multiplayer maps, further continuation in the story, some other game modes etc.

11. So how is DLC linked with Region?
DLC is basically linked with what Region game you have. If you have a Region 2 game, you're gonna need a Region 2 account to visit the store and download DLC for that game.
So, if you have a Region 1 game but you download the DLC from a Region 2 account, the DLC won't work.
We'll leave the console Region at that for games as they are Region free but DLCs which are more locked to a game's Region than the console/account.

12. Can I play a Region 1 game on my Region 2 account on my Region 3 PS3?
Abso-effin-lutely.

13. Back to console region difference, explain more.
Region 1 and Region 2 are practically the same when it comes to software. The only difference that comes with software is with Region 3....meaning?
The basic selection and cancel buttons on a Region 1 or 2 console are X (Cross) and O (Circle), but on a Region 3 console they are swapped, O (Circle) for selection and X (Cross) for cancellation.

14. Let's talk about games, how much do they cost?
In Pakistan, from the market outside of PG a brand new game may cost you anything between Rs.5000-6000 because that is the price of the games converted from $60.
But our premium sellers here do bring in brand new games much cheaply than the market rate.

15. Okay, so I bought a game, popped it in the PS3, played for a while and felt like I was playing PS2 , why so?
Reason. SDTV. Games look much better on a HDTV rather than a SDTV. As that's how the games are meant to be played. Even on SDTV they look better but some games are just made to be played in HD.

16. What is HD and HDTV?
HD is short for High-Definition and HDTV stands for Hi-Def TV.
HD starts from the resolution of 1280x720 till 1920x1080.
1280x720 commonly known as 720p is a standard HD resolution while 1920x1080 commonly known as 1080p is the full HD resolution.

17. You just lost me, what is the difference between 720p and 1080p when they are both HD?
The difference is of the pixels, how many pixels at the time are active on the screen. But to measure and view the difference between 720p and 1080p, you will need a LCD screen larger than 40".

18. So screen smaller than a 40" can't view in 1080p?
That's not the case. The 1080p resolution starts natively from a 24" screen, some screen even have them started from a 22".

19. So how do I know if a game is 1080p supported or just 720p supported?
Games have information on the back of their cases. You'll see boxes which will tell you about what a game supports like multiplayer etc.
At the very end of these boxes, the game tells which resolution it supports. Nearly all games of PS3 are in 720p and many games also support 720p + 1080p.

20. Coming back to games, which games would you recommend after first purchasing the PS3?
I'll personally suggest you to check out the exclusives first as where your thinking of awesomeness ends, theirs begin...
Check out Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted series, God Of War 3, Resistance series, inFAMOUS series, Killzone series etc.
I highly recommend MGS4 first to demonstrate the power of the PS3.

21. I have a 24" LCD, I don't have HDTV, so can I connect my PS3 to my LCD?
Absolutely. Depends on the LCD that is. PS3 has the output options of AV and HDMI.
If DVI port of your LCD is not HDCP compliant then PS3 won't work with it (HDMI to DVI cable/converter doesn't matter). Most (almost all) DVI ports on current LCDs are HDCP compliant. Only difference between DVI and HDMI is that HDMI carries sound as well as video while DVI carries only video.
If your LCD has DVI, still no worries, DVI offers the same quality as HDMI only it is not HDCP compliant.
You'll need a HDMI-DVI converter to setup PS3 on your DVI LCD.

22. I'm hearing PS3 comes in models, what models are we talking about?
As of 2010, PS3 now comes in a redesigned body and this redesigned line of PS3s is known as PS3 Slim.
The previous PS3 models were known as PS3 fats..
PS3 Slim now comes in two different models, 160GB and a 320GB model.
The only difference between the two models if of the HDD size and nothing else.
The difference between the Slims and the Fats is that Slims are free from any hardware fault like the YLOD (Yellow Light Of Death) which was present in the Fat models that if they overheat, the motherboard would just die and a yellow light will start blinking instead of a normal operation. So Slims are reliable unquestionably.

23. Can I know the prices for these models here in Pakistan?
Price. Price. Price.
We cannot quote you a price for a PS3 model as prices tend to fluctuate according to the value of dollar. We can only quote estimates for you so that you can have an idea about the price range.

24. So? Estimate?
PS3 160GB models are estimated to be anywhere between Rs.32,000-34,000~ and the 320GB models are estimated to be Rs.36,000-38,000~

25. I heard the PS3s controllers don't have vibration feedback? Is that really true?
If you would've asked this question at the time of PS3 launch then our answer would've been yes. The first line of controllers that were released with the PS3 were known as SIXAXIS, they boast six axes for motion gaming right in the controller, but the rumble feature had to be removed due to a patent law.
But with the release of MGS4 in 2008, DualShock 3s were announced which brought back the vibration feedback with it plus all the SIXAXIS features.
Now every game bein released supports vibration feedback.

26. What is this MOVE I keep hearing about?
MOVE is an extra peripheral for the PS3. It is PS3's step into motion gaming. You can use it to play using motion. It has vibration feedback and button too !

27. Okay, so how does this all work out? Do I need extra accessories to use MOVE?
Yes, as a matter of fact you do need extra accessories like the PS Eye and PS MOVE itself. These are the required ones. Other additional accessories such as a Navi-controller, a sharpshooter etc are optional.

28. So how much does this all cost?
Like we said before, this is Pakistan, and prices tend to fluctuate in accordance with the dollar so we can only estimate the prices.
Sony made a smart move by bringing MOVE into pieces...
You can purchase all the required components separately or together in a bundle.
This is that if someone already has a PS Eye, they only need to buy the PS MOVE to jump into motion gaming.
Whereas bundles includes both PS Eye and PS Move with cable for charging, a wrist strap and a starter disk containing demos for the PS MOVE.
PS MOVE alone should cost you somewhere between Rs.3200-3500.
PS Eye should cost you around Rs.1500-2000.

29. Alright so what Region is most popular here in Pakistan?
Region 2.
Region 2 console and games are rightly priced here in Pakistan and are cheaper than the Region 1 console and games.
Region 3 is by far the cheapest of them all.

30. How can I buy stuff from the PS Store?
You can get PS Network Cards or PSN Cards to top up your account to buy stuff from the PS Store.

31. I have a credit card so can I use it to buy the stuff from PS Store?
Sadly, no. Since Pakistan is not an official country in the Playstation world, you cannot link your Pakistani credit card or any other credit card for that matter except for the credit card in the same country.
meaning if your account is of Region 1 USA, you can only link a USA credit card to that account and not any other country's...

32. Help ! I just switched from HDMI output to composite output and nothing would show up on the screen even with the PS3 turned on ! What should I do?
Calm down no need to panic, you just need to reset the video settings on your PS3.
To reset do the following steps:
i. Turn off your PS3 if it's turned on otherwise skip to below.
ii. Turn on your PS3 using the power button on it and keep holding it down.
iii. After you hear PS3 booting up, you will hear the booting beep and another beep after 5 seconds.
iv. After hearing the 2nd beep, release the power button and there you go, video settings resetted.

32. If I don't use my PSN account for a long time, will it shut down?
No, as far as accounts are concerned, they don't have an expiry date on them.
So even if you decide to game after a year, your account will be as is.

33. When I buy a PS3, what will be in the box, what comes with it?
You'll get:
1x PS3 Entertainment System
1x DualShock 3 controller
1x AV Cable
1x USB Cable for charging the controller
1x SCART converter
1x Printed Manuals

34. Can I update the Firmware of the PS3 using any external storage device?
Yes you can. Infact this method is recommended for those areas which suffer from heavy loadshedding or if you have a slow internet connection and know that you won't be able to update in time before the loadshedding kicks in.
You can find the latest firmwares on: Sony PlayStation®: PS3 or Official PlayStation website

35. Which method is the best to play online, wired or wireless?
Wired connections are the best as they are directly connected to the PS3 and no fear of connection breaking or intereference from any other device.
However, wireless connection itself ain't bad, if you can get >80% signals, you're online experience will be smooth, heck 80% is a large number even at 50% you can play smoothly.

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Okay guys , here are the Shop names and their contact numbers in Lahore :

1. KS Games-Hallroad : 7325498
2. Game point-Hallroad : 7238708
3. Generations-Hallroad : 7320510
4. Generations-DHA : 5039385
5. Kiran Electronics-Hallroad : 7220078
6. Kiran Electronics-Model town : 5175775
7. Playstation Club-Liberty : 5789700
8. Universal game club-Liberty : 5717329
9. Future Zone-Liberty : 5764245
10. Toyland-Liberty : 03224131013
11. Kashi Games-Pace Gulberg : 5784784

[ Credits to mugen1990] for the info ]

Q) What is the PS3 ?
A) The Playstation 3 is a gaming console Developed by Sony Japan which delivers Digital Entertainment all in High Definition as well as Standard Definition . It's the 3rd member of the PlayStation Family . And currently the latest available PlayStation Console .

Q) What Types of Games are on the PS3
A) The PS3 has a Wide Array of Games from almost All Genres. From Action/Adventures to Role playing games. From Sports to Driving and from Shooters to Horror. Possible chance of an MMO as well . The PS3 is enriched with First Party Exclusives Line-up with games like MGS4 , Uncharted 2 , Resistance 2 , Killzone 2 , MAG and many others .

Q) Is it Reliable Hardware Wise?
A) Yes , The Playstation 3 is built really well and is very reliable. It is currently the most reliable next-gen console with less than 1% Failure Rate . The only errors seen so far in PS3 are YLOD ( Overheating due to improper ventilation ) . It's only seen in the 60GB model and is now fixed . The other one is the DISC READING ERROR which was also in the 60GB Model . Both problems are now fixed .

Q) Are PS3 Games Pirated?
A) Unfortunately for Pakistanis, PS3 games are not pirated . However , we haven't lost hope . Sooner or later a modchip or a hack will come , definitely


Q)
Which PS3 model should I go for?
Currently , there are 2 Models of PS3 . FAT PS3 and SLIM PS3 . It's totally upto you which model you want to go for . FAT PS3 has the looks while SLIM PS3 has everything else . It's cooler , quiter , lighter and ofcourse smaller and slimmer . If I were you , I'd go for PS3 Slim because of the $299 Price Tag .

Q) What colors does the PS3 come in?
A) The standard Piano black. And in Japan you can get the Ceramic White version . The new PS3 Slim is available only in Charcoal Black as of now .

Q) What other features does the PS3 have besides Games?

A) You can Play DVD Movies, Blu-ray Movies, Music, Pictures, Chatting, Downloading Music Videos, Game Trailers, Demos, Movie Trailers, Playstation EYE (webcam) and voice chat . And have access to PlayStation HOME . You can buy Movies and TV seasons off the PlayStation Store .

Q) Do you have to Pay for online?
A) No the PSN (Playstation Network) is free of cost . Though there are certain fees if you intend to get add-ons for games .

Q) How many players can play on the PS3 at one time?
A) According to Sony 7 Players can play at the same time but we have yet to see a game that supports up to 7 players . Only FPS Games like COD4 support 4 players at max .

Q) Third and First Party Support?
A) Sony has a very strong First party support and a Very Strong third party support as well. The Sony PS2 had a massive third party support which continues on the PS3 as well. However , recently SONY has lost exclusivity of certain titles such as Tekken , Final Fantasy etc.

Q) What are some PS3 titles worth buying?
A) You can fill your appetite no matter what your genre is. However, I will post 3 popular games each from 3 categories here.

Exclusives: Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ratchet: Tools Of Destruction, Motorstorm
Multi-Platform: Unreal Tournament 3, Burnout Paradise, Devil May Cry 4
PSN Downloads: Warhawk, Super Stardust HD, Pixeljunk Monsters

Q) How can I buy PSN games?

A) All you need is a credit card. Enter your billing information in your PS account and you're done. This does not work if you live in an area where PSN has not officially launched. But you can create a new profile with a fake address and a country where PSN is available. Then you can enter your CC details and choose the option 'Billing address not same as residential address'.

The second and the best method is to buy content through a PSN Card . They're currently for $20 and $50 . You can buy them through online websites such as Play-Asia etc. However , PSN Games Sharing has become quite common due to which you can get your desired PSN Content for VERY CHEAP . Check the PlayStation Network Thread for more details .

Q) Are there any extra Peripherals with the PS3?
A) There are many peripherals you can buy with the PS3 like the Playstation EYE, Steering Wheel, Blu-ray Remote, Memory Card, Headset and many other things.

Q) Does the PS3 come with an HDMI cable?
A) No. However , you can get one easily and for cheap .

Q) Is HDTV a Must
A) No but it simply looks better on the HDTV . PS3 comes with composite wires which give you Standard Definition output .

Q) Whats the ONE ADVANTAGE that the PS3 has compared to its Competitors?
A) The PS3 is a VERY powerful Machine, currently the Major Advantage the PS3 has over its competitors is the Built in Blu-ray Drive which has the capability of streaming Movies up to 1080p and storing up to 45-50 GB of data. Another thing is to consider the Power of the Cell Processor which has the ability to Perform Many multi-threading applications simultaneously. Free online gaming takes the upper hand as well .

Q) Is it Worth the Investment?
A) Yes. If you would have asked me this question a few months back, the answer would have been different. But now is a great time to buy a PS3. The prices are down, the games are up, and we are looking at unarguably the greatest games lineup in 2000/10 for the PS3, with games like Heavy Rain , MAG , Uncharted 2 , Ratchet and Clank : A Crack in Time , Gran Turismo 5, Modern Warfare 2 , Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 and many more.

Below is a detailed comparison of all the PS3 SKU's manufactured so far :

Courtesy of alimirza75
 
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There we go ;)
Later on, we'll post important and commonly asked questions and their answers in the first post. What do you say guys?
 

Hamza Resisted

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I need the price of 40 GB Ps3 in Islamabad and the price of 60 GB in Lahore? Also I need to know the price of the following Games:
MGS4
Uncharted Drake's Fortune
GTA 4
 

Bad Mofo

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^ you are right, you NEED those games......

..... oh, you need to BUY those games?

cool!

i bought mine some time back. so i don't know what the current prices are. i don't know, the dollar has gone up and shit as well, so the prices might have gone up.

your best bet is to go out in the market and see what prices you are getting.

once you have them, post them here. we'll all tell you if those prices are fair or not.

as for the games? you're looking at between rs 3000 for uncharted to around rs. 4000 or below for the other two. once again, it all depends on how much you can haggle.
 

mugen1990

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Mgs4 4200
Uncharted 3200
Gta4 3600
Prices were confirmed on last saturday

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Mods i know almost all of the lahore gaming shopkeepers phone no. Ive been seeing a lot of threads asking latest prices of sku and games. I want to start official gaming shopkeeper no. thread. I wiil paste for lahore and other ppl can paste for Islo and Khi. This is so tht ppl can call shopkeepers themselves, and latest price asking questions can be avoided as well as extra threads can be avoided. I recommend we make such thread in general gaming section. Please tell me if any such thread should be created. I wud be delighted to contribute to pg.
 

Hamza Resisted

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It is working great . Thanks Muaaz for Posting this thread but i still need the price of 40GB and 60GB Ps3 in Lahore and i need a cheap shop to buy it from ?

P.S: the prices posted above are fake . my friend just got MGS4 for Rs.3500 from Famous Toys and he told me that Uncharted and GTA 4 were for Rs.3000
 

mugen1990

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Did he got brand new sealed? I think not. I asked for exhanged mgs4 and costed 3200. 4200 is for brand new sealed. 40gb Ps3 is for 32000. for 60gb u dont know as most shops didnt had it. But i saw one at Alfatah a month ago. Try asking them. Or maybe generations have it. Here is the no of generations dha lahore. ask them for 60gb 042-5039385.
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Bad Mofo

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not any specific. I search 2 markets and buy the cheapest one i find. The two markets are Liberty and Hallroad.
wow! going to hall road to buy video games is going to be so 1992! nostalgia here i come!

what's the price difference like waisey?

and in liberty, how would you rate 'playstation club' and 'yours game club'? those are the shops i go to usually.
 

mugen1990

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Playstation club is better. And i think its not "Urs game club" its universal game club. The price difference are somtimes between 200-400 between hallroad and liberty. Actually i dont go my self to hallroad. I phone the shops and ask the prices and do some bargain. and then my fathers office is near hallroad and he sends a person to get the blueray or exchange the blueray from tht shop. on the other hand i live in gardentown. It is very easy for me to go to liberty in less than 7 minutes.
 

Bad Mofo

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^ na, there is actually a "yours game club". the dude doesn't know how to name shops!

anyway, yeah, ps club's okay i guess. but i hate, hate, hate kiren and future zone! not only are they rip-offs, they're assholes too! i went to the one on link road (was just curious) and asked how much soul caliber 4 was for; he told me 5000! i just shook my head and left. i heard him scream out "acha bhai, 4800!"

i can get that one for 4250. is that a good price you think?
 

Hamza Resisted

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I asked my friend the prices the day after i posted the thread so i was amazed at the price difference and oh if you all go to Illusions in Islamabad then they exchange games for Rs.1000-Rs.1500. Also anybody goes to pace in Liberty Lahore ? Please. He or She should note down the prices there . Those guys sell things at good prices !!!
 

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4,250 is a good price for a new game, if you are willing to pay this much for a fighting game.
 

Hamza Resisted

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4000 for Soul Caliber 4 , A rip off ? Go TO Liberty and you can get it for Rs.3800 or below . Advice to everyone never go to Kiran Electronics , They are complete Rip Offs , Instead go to Illusions or Famous Toys They sell goods at Cheap Prices
 
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