Playstation Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart launches June 11 on PS5

[Necrokiller]

I didn't really expect traversal stutters in a game that was originally developed for PS4, but I sure was curious.

You did tho. And ultimately CuriousiTy killed the CaT. Nixxes rep

Also, I just said in my previous post that Rift Apart is not actively taking advantage of the PS5 IO.

lol @ "previous post". Ye active passive apne paas rakho ab. PC versions announcement se pehle I woud've given it some credibility LMAO

Nixxes will now actively port your favorite pre-ordered "exclusives" on PC

I'm talking about this statement from John regarding the 4090/7100 MB/s SSD combo exhibiting extra stutter/pauses over the PS5 version:

What's a "slight extra pause"? Not very scientific or concerning now is it.

Why don't you tell us how he also said "the experience seems excellent by and large"? Dat selective quoting.

Alex would've said "few" instead of "some" areas. It's a vague statement either way

So you were drawing conclusions based on vague statements? Glad you realize it now

 

[CerebralTiger]

You did tho. And ultimately CuriousiTy killed the CaT. Nixxes rep

My statement began with an "if"

Nixxes will now actively port your favorite pre-ordered "exclusives" on PC

Guess we'll see in Fall 2025, if Jimmy's still around by then

What's a "slight extra pause"? Not very scientific or concerning now is it.

I mean, it's measurable. There's a notably bigger stutter during the portal section than the one seen on PS5

So you were drawing conclusions based on vague statements? Glad you realize it now

Even if he meant few, that's a win for a version that was released 2 years ago

 

[Necrokiller]

My statement began with an "if"

In terms of "zero stuttering". Not that you don't expect it in any ferquency

Guess we'll see in Fall 2025, if Jimmy's still around by then

We thank him for his services in establishing and expanding the Playstation PC family

I mean, it's measurable. There's a notably bigger stutter during the portal section than the one seen on PS5

Wait, so now CerebralTiger has no objection on what the axis value is? It doesn't even seem twice in terms of ms as the PS5 stutter, let alone whatever you wanna call "notably bigger" for now

Even if he meant few, that's a win for a version that was released 2 years ago

Oh wow, CerebralTiger thinks he got a "win" here in "some" scenarios in a game he admittedly hasn't completed in 2 years. Meanwhile my ultrawide, DLSS, additional RT and mouse+kb version is just about done downloading (for freeeeeee). Thanks Jimbo and Nixxes

 

[Chandoo]

Even if he meant few, that's a win for a version that was released 2 years ago

Saeen it's more than a few.

Slower loads, worse texture streaming with some assets simply not loading to PS5 level, missing transparencies.

There are missing transparency effects present on PS5, but absent on the maxed PC experience

texture loading issues, where the PS5-grade asset simply never loaded on the PC game. There are ray tracing consistency problems where the maxed experience can have some areas that are of a lower quality than PS5

the portal transition process does indeed complete more quickly on PlayStation 5 than it does on the most high-end PC around.

All of these issues give the impression that - once again - a PC port has launched when it's not in a fully polished state.

bUt dLsS hAi nAaAaA

 

[iampasha]

Bhai ye Rachel and wank achi game hai pentium aur rx 470 par

 

[Necrokiller]

Bhai ye Rachel and wank achi game hai pentium aur rx 470 par

Is pe bhi chal jaega saeen, but PS4 aur PS4 Pro pe nahi.

Insomniac dhokay baaaaaz.

 

[UzairAhmed]

I played it today on a mobile 3080ti with reasonable settings RT enabled on medium/high with reasonable frame rates averaging 75fps on 1080p and the game looked fantastic already. The session ended with a crash unfortunately and there were two instances when the game got stuck during the cut scenes as the screen became unresponsive then all of a sudden got back into action. Its a few patches away from being fully enjoyable but still its a much better experience compared to some other recent PC launches

 

[Necrokiller]

Their experience is based on the top of the line available hardware, so I trust it more than that of random individuals on an internet forum with PCs.

Nobody said not to trust them. But it needs a special kind of brain (NefariousTiger lmao) to suggest that everyone must be having the same bugs as well, or that if the "top of the line hardware" encounters it, then lower specs must too

Glad to put that theory in the gutter. Though who are we kidding. CerebralTiger never learns and never will

 

[CerebralTiger]

In terms of "zero stuttering". Not that you don't expect it in any ferquency

Zero stuttering is what I'll obviously expect when the PS5 version has zero as well.

We thank him for his services in establishing and expanding the Playstation PC family

When is Necrokiller thanking him for two of the greatest From Software games

Wait, so now CerebralTiger has no objection on what the axis value is? It doesn't even seem twice in terms of ms as the PS5 stutter, let alone whatever you wanna call "notably bigger" for now

Nowhere did I suggest that it was twice. A spike from 16.67 ms to 50 ms vs to 70 ms is distinguishable, as John also pointed it out as an additional pause and Alex also calls it less smooth. They noticed it and so did I

Oh wow, CerebralTiger thinks he got a "win" here in "some" scenarios in a game he admittedly hasn't completed in 2 years.

Quick to show my PSN trophies where the narrative can work and not where it can't? Classic Necrokiller yet again

Nobody said not to trust them. But it needs a special kind of brain (NefariousTiger lmao) to suggest that everyone must be having the same bugs as well, or that if the "top of the line hardware" encounters it, then lower specs must too

The quoted text and string of discussion was regarding stability issues (crashes), and it's not just Alex that is encountering them. But leave it to Necrokiller to turn it into the texture bug that Alex was facing

Glad to put that theory in the gutter. Though who are we kidding. CerebralTiger never learns and never will

When are we seeing how the portal section runs on Necrokiller's PC (w/ the frame time graph showing some axis values)? That's the theory to put in the gutter

And the game is capped to make the comparison fair for poor PS5. Imagine using a capped 60fps benchmark as means for the PS5 being "smoother" yikess

Soooooo? The PS5 version can be capped to 120 Hz, yet that wasn't used for the test either

 

[Necrokiller]

When is Necrokiller thanking him for two of the greatest From Software games

Why would Jim be credited for Sekiro and Elden Ring?

Nowhere did I suggest that it was twice. A spike from 16.67 ms to 50 ms vs to 70 ms is distinguishable

Not to everyone. The difference between PS5 and PC stutter is imperceptible. Certainly to me

Quick to show my PSN trophies where the narrative can work and not where it can't? Classic Necrokiller yet again

Quick to become a fanboy of games on forums you have barely touched or finished, some in over a decade, for some sense of self-perceived gamer ego boost. Classic CerebralTiger insecurities

The quoted text and string of discussion was regarding stability issues (crashes), and it's not just Alex that is encountering them. But leave it to Necrokiller to turn it into the texture bug that Alex was facing

So? There are lots of people encountering issues online in games that you claim to not have encountered even once (Brooooketurnal, Rift Apart). Same logic applies here I'm literally playing the game and the textures are loading fine. Others on twitter are presenting their proof as well. Ofcourse, if we follow CerebralTiger's logic, the obvious answer is that we're all using RTX 5090s

Wouldn't be shocked if your PS5 overheated during FF16. Of course, you won't be the first to tell us here now, would you?

When are we seeing how the portal section runs on Necrokiller's PC (w/ the frame time graph showing some axis values)? That's the theory to put in the gutter

Already guttered and confirmed by DF.

Nixxes has done the heavy lifting and basically solved the storage challenge

Mythical I/O challenge has been solved. Keep coping

Soooooo? The PS5 version can be capped to 120 Hz, yet that wasn't used for the test either

As per DF, they'll start posting 4K/120Hz videos once youtube supports higher than 60fps. You'll have to wait a bit more for DLSS3 to embarrass the PS5 in such comparisons

 

[CerebralTiger]

Not to everyone. The difference between PS5 and PC stutter is imperceptible. Certainly to me

It's perceptible to Alex, John, me, and anyone who can perceive stutter i.e. not Necrokiller I guess

Quick to become a fanboy of games on forums you have barely touched or finished

I've played it for several hours. Unlocking 2 trophies doesn't indicate that I've barely touched it. Not all trophies unlock alongside progress. Try again

What about Ratchet tho? Where's my trophy progress at? There's a trophy for finishing the game. Goooo on, share the deets

So?

So I'm being quoted over the wrong argument, then? And yes, I can prove that FFXVI didn't crash or overheat for me. The error history on PS5 is something I can't tamper with even if I wanted to.

There are lots of people encountering issues online in games that you claim to not have encountered even once (Brooooketurnal, Rift Apart).

I'll acknowledge it if DF encounters it. They encountered stability issues in the PC version of Ratchet, but not in the PS5 version

Already guttered and confirmed by DF.

Mythical IO challenge solved, but aagay ki baat kion cut kar di lmao. Both Alex and John were left disappointed that PS5 equivalent results could not be obtained, regardless of GPU/SSD

 

[iampasha]

So a patch is already out solving most of the issues DF faced or so I have heard. Time to wrap it up boys and praise nixxes who managed to run this game on an HDD lol

 

[CerebralTiger]

Hang in there Pasha. The portal sequences are still the same (aka worse than PS5) on any possible PC config

Also, I'm curious to know what texture setting Necrokiller is playing the game at on his 8 GB RTX 3070

 

[Necrokiller]

It's perceptible to Alex, John

So? Doesn't mean it has to be for everyone. Besides, they never said they perceived it without frame time analysis graphs. Vague statementttts

Let's not leave out Guru Richard's perceptions here where 16.67ms to 33.3ms spikes are all stutters

I've played it for several hours. Unlocking 2 trophies doesn't indicate that I've barely touched it.

Couple of hours for games that last over 20 hours on average just for main missions? Yeppp, that's barely touching it. Let alone pretend to be a fanboy on forums to feel better about yourself.

So much for being a fan of "w0rLd t3nDeNcY sYsTEM" or "w0rLD 5imuL@tIONNN" LMFAOOO

Come back when you've at least finished the campaign. 10+ years and counting. Try again. Harder

What about Ratchet tho? Where's my trophy progress at? There's a trophy for finishing the game. Goooo on, share the deets

I played less than half of the game. Bore hogia tha. Necrokiller can see my PSN trophy progress for proof

Finished after PC version announcement in June 2023. YIKES YIKES YIKES!

So I'm being quoted over the wrong argument, then? And yes, I can prove that FFXVI didn't crash or overheat for me. The error history on PS5 is something I can't tamper with even if I wanted to.

Nope. You're being quoted for assuming that everyone will encounter the same issues as DF. Your own experience in other games, and the texture loading example I posted, prove that its not the case.

And is the biggest FF16 fanboy here also not trust worthy?

yooo, the overheating issue is real. Yikes!!!

I'll acknowledge it if DF encounters it. They encountered stability issues in the PC version of Ratchet, but not in the PS5 version

The thread is chock of full of video proofs. You denying it won't change the facts

Mythical IO challenge solved, but aagay ki baat kion cut kar di lmao.

Jab solve hogaya hai tou baaat hi khatam. Even muh Steam Deck runs it great. Now, then, bring on SM2's "active" I/O challenge

 

[Necrokiller]

Nixxes rep

Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart v1.727.0.0 Hotfix


Patch Notes

• Resolved visual issues with characters occurring on certain GPUs, including AMD Vega based models.
• Improved the visual quality of vegetation in ray-traced shadows and ray-traced reflections.
• Implemented a fix to make the Texture Filtering option work as intended.

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Performance RT has SSAO. While PC has HBAO+, XeGTAO and RTAO.

LOD detail on PS5 Performance RT is between Medium and High....so......MID! While PC scales further to High, Very High and Ultra! I was told "next-gen" assets wouldn't be an issue

CerebralTiger in shambles

Mythical I/O in shambles

 

[Chandoo]

Nixxess Rep



Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart PC tech analysis - this port needed more time

 

[Necrokiller]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1684998722390745088

another cutting edge PC port by the ever talented Nixxes

Nixxes rep

 

[CerebralTiger]

So? Doesn't mean it has to be for everyone. Besides, they never said they perceived it without frame time analysis graphs. Vague statementttts

If a bigger pause of that nature isn't noticeable to someone, they should refrain from commenting on game performance. Alex and John both noticed it without the frame time analysis in their respective playthroughs

Couple of hours for games that last over 20 hours on average just for main missions? Yeppp, that's barely touching it. Let alone pretend to be a fanboy on forums to feel better about yourself.

Errr what? Ghostrunner's main story is around 7 hours.

Nope. You're being quoted for assuming that everyone will encounter the same issues as DF.

3 different PC configurations in the DF video crashed. Necrokiller's PC is from the moon, therefore it did not

Jab solve hogaya hai tou baaat hi khatam. Even muh Steam Deck runs it great. Now, then, bring on SM2's "active" I/O challenge

Aisay solution ka kia faida jo PS5 se slower hou by 1 or more seconds aur less smooth bhi. Alex's disappointment is very clear when he says that no PC config can match the PS5 in the portal segments. Necrokiller in shambles

LOD detail on PS5 Performance RT is between Medium and High....so......MID! While PC scales further to High, Very High and Ultra! I was told "next-gen" assets wouldn't be an issue

Mainay tou texture quality ka poocha tha. Alex recommends High for that aging GPU of Necrokiller's with 8 GB VRAM, whereas the PS5 runs with Very High textures. Necrokiller in shambles

Also, Medium is mid. Between Medium and High is higher than mid

 

[Necrokiller]

Alex and John both noticed it without the frame time analysis in their respective playthroughs.

We don't know that and that still doesn't mean everyone will perceive it

Errr what? Ghostrunner's main story is around 7 hours.

Who said anything about Ghostrunner?

3 different PC configurations in the DF video crashed. Necrokiller's PC is from the moon, therefore it did not

If you can have a crash free experience in Ratchet and Broketurnal, then this is possible too

Aisay solution ka kia faida

Alex calls it "another cutting edge port". Ye faida. Even an outlier throughput was 1200MB/s and normal usage was 500MB/s. PS5 MID lod in shambles

Alex recommends High for that aging GPU of Necrokiller's with 8 GB VRAM, whereas the PS5 runs with Very High textures. Necrokiller in shambles

There is no mention of DLSS in his 1440p recommendation. Try harder

Also, Medium is mid. Between Medium and High is higher than mid

MID ki definitive definition hi to pata nahi chal rahi.
Whatever you sliding scale is, PC goes 3 steps further than PS5. Would've been interesting to see how the PS5 handles the Ultra LOD. Oh well, something for PS5 Pro or PS6 remaster maybe

 

[CerebralTiger]

We don't know that and that still doesn't mean everyone will perceive it

Imagine thinking Alex needs a frame time graph to perceive stutter. Agar khud nahi perceive kar saktay tou phir game performance par comment kion kartay hou

Who said anything about Ghostrunner?

MULTI - Ghostrunner 2 - Expected Released Date - Dec 2023/Jan 2024

Game visuals look like a Cyber-punk clone. I am cautiously optimistic about this game and will consider if it gets good reviews on launch, and has 11+ hours gameplay, unlike just 7 hours of gameplay of Ghostrunner 1. https://www.play-asia.com/ghostrunner-2/13/70g75j

pakgamers.com

If you can have a crash free experience in Ratchet and Broketurnal, then this is possible too

DF didn't encounter crashes in Ratchet on any of their PS5s, yet they did on 3 of their PCs. Go figure

Alex calls it "another cutting edge port". Ye faida. Even an outlier throughput was 1200MB/s and normal usage was 500MB/s. PS5 MID lod in shambles

SSD itself ki throughput ka tou issue tha bhi nahi. Even the PS5 was tested with a drive that's slower than the internal SSD, and Ratchet ran fine.

There is no mention of DLSS in his 1440p recommendation. Try harder

There is mention of DLSS related inaccuracies with reflections, however. Pick your poison, Necrokiller

MID ki definitive definition hi to pata nahi chal rahi.

Na achi na buri. Bus mid

Would've been interesting to see how the PS5 handles the Ultra LOD. Oh well, something for PS5 Pro or PS6 remaster maybe

Wouldn't it have also been interesting to see at least the very high end PC configs run the portal segments as fast and as smooth as the PS5? DirectStoooorage 2.0 maybe