Playstation Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart launches June 11 on PS5

[Necrokiller]

Imagine thinking Alex needs a frame time graph to perceive stutter.

He may not but the statement is still vague. And perception is subjective so his experience cannot be translated to everyone

MULTI - Ghostrunner 2 - Expected Released Date - Dec 2023/Jan 2024

Game visuals look like a Cyber-punk clone. I am cautiously optimistic about this game and will consider if it gets good reviews on launch, and has 11+ hours gameplay, unlike just 7 hours of gameplay of Ghostrunner 1. https://www.play-asia.com/ghostrunner-2/13/70g75j

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I literally mentioned 10+ years and 20 hours average length. So, obviously not even hinting at Ghostrunner IN THIS THREAD.

DF didn't encounter crashes in Ratchet on any of their PS5s, yet they did on 3 of their PCs. Go figure

All we need is a video proof of the game crashing on a PS5.

SSD itself ki throughput ka tou issue tha bhi nahi.

Clearly, since the LOD is MID at best on PS5. Something something CPU issues fixed this gen

There is mention of DLSS related inaccuracies with reflections, however. Pick your poison, Necrokiller

Fixed already and also mentioned in the video. Sorry if your "win" barely lasted a single day. Nixxes rep

Na achi na buri. Bus mid

Based on LOD settings on PC:

Very Low, Low, Medium.....PS5 MID.....High, Very High, Ultra.

So yeah....exactly MID.

Wouldn't it have also been interesting to see at least the very high end PC configs run the portal segments as fast and as smooth as the PS5? DirectStoooorage 2.0 maybe

Pehle MID level "next-gen" LOD to fix karwa lo Cerny se

 

[CerebralTiger]

And perception is subjective so his experience cannot be translated to everyone

Just like not everyone can notice dips in frame rate to 10 fps I guess

All we need is a video proof of the game crashing on a PS5.

Still waiting for DF's proof

Clearly, since the LOD is MID at best on PS5. Something something CPU issues fixed this gen

Based on Necrokiller's own definition of mid, perhaps? As far as I'm concerned, mid is medium, and the PS5 version's LOD is higher. But what about textures? PS5 runs at Very High. What about Necrokiller's PC?

Discussion ka time khatam hogia hai. It's time to see the portal segment running on Necrokiller's PC with the frame time y-axis clearly labeled. We know a 4090/7100MB/s combo couldn't do it, but perhaps Necrokiller's DirectStooorage certified PC can

In fact, I'm also interested in seeing how the portal segment runs on iampasha's PC

 

[Necrokiller]

Just like not everyone can notice dips in frame rate to 10 fps I guess

With time, CerebralTiger will believe that 10fps is perfectly fine with LFC

Still waiting for DF's proof

Not required. PS5 is a fixed hardware

Based on Necrokiller's own definition of mid, perhaps?

PS5's LOD setting falls in MID of all available settings on PC. That's as factual as the definition can get

Nixxes showed Naughty Dog how its actively done. You focus on getting your money on the double for Rift Apart and Returnal

In fact, I'm also interested in seeing

We're all interested in seeing when you're selling off 'this thing'.

If they put as much as one PS5 exclusive on PC during its lifetime, I'll sell this thing off asap.

@iampasha

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH look at this guy's frustration over being loyal to Sony and what he got in return

 

[CerebralTiger]

With time, CerebralTiger will believe that 10fps is perfectly fine with LFC

Still better than not being able to perceive a literal pause

Not required.

It's required. The expansion storage is not fixed HW. Moreover, someone could've been running the game off disc w/o the day one update installed. Only DF can be trusted

PS5's setting falls in MID of all available settings on PC. That's as factual as it can get.

Based on my definition of mid, it's Medium. Now let's hear about the texture setting Necrokiller is running the game at

We're all interested in seeing when you're selling off 'this thing'.

When PC can deliver a faster/smoother data loading experience than PS5 and a cheater-free multiplayer environment

Now let's see the portal section video. It's very early in the game, so Necrokiller should have no issue capturing and sharing a video

 

[Necrokiller]

Still better than not being able to perceive a literal pause

That's a good thing. There's a reason Alex considers himself cursed

It's required.

Nope. Same bugs and crashes are far more likely to occur on fixed hardware and software. DF may not have encountered it but no shortage of examples online for people who did

Based on my definition of mid, it's Medium.

Except that your definition is inaccurate. There as many LOD settings lower as higher on PC than PS5's MID.

But you do you

Now let's hear about the texture setting Necrokiller is running the game at

Already showed example of proper texture loading compared to Alex's PC and comparison with PS5. Self explanatory

When PC can deliver a faster/smoother data loading experience than PS5 and a cheater-free multiplayer environment

Classic CerebralTiger goal post shifting. Only requirement was 1 PS5 game releasing on PC in the console's life cycle. Thank youuu Jimbooooo

 

[iampasha]

@CerebralTiger would gladly show you portals if you buy me a copy

 

[Necrokiller]

@CerebralTiger would gladly show you portals if you buy me a copy

Yeah that’s a good idea. If he is that interested in our benchmarks, he should buy us the game and we’ll gladly do it.

 

[Radical]

Saw Alex's latest video for pc analysis.

& again he mentions that no configuration no matter how high end, can match the PS5 level of performance in those portals!

Cerny did good, saeen!

 

[iampasha]

AAND another one in merely two days:

Steam :: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart :: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart v1.728.0.0 Patch Notes

Hey everyone, Today's patch addresses issues that have been reported by players since launch. We've implemented several bug fixes and corrected visual bugs, including texture streaming issues and visible flickering of water reflections on certain settings. This patch also implements a change to...

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Remember the words: nixxes, rx570, steamdeck, ps4 HDD and ofcouse the best one extraspecialps5ssd

 

[CerebralTiger]

Nope. Same bugs and crashes are far more likely to occur on fixed hardware and software. DF may not have encountered it but no shortage of examples online for people who did

Like I said, they can't be trusted. Who's to say they're running the game off disc w/o the day one update installed just to get some views

Except that your definition is inaccurate. There as many LOD settings lower as higher on PC than PS5's MID.

It's valid as far as I'm concerned. Hence my definition

Already showed example of proper texture loading compared to Alex's PC and comparison with PS5. Self explanatory

What we have yet to see is a gameplay video with a frame time graph and y-axis labeled during the portal segment

Steam :: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart :: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart v1.728.0.0 Patch Notes

Hey everyone, Today's patch addresses issues that have been reported by players since launch. We've implemented several bug fixes and corrected visual bugs, including texture streaming issues and visible flickering of water reflections on certain settings. This patch also implements a change to...

steamcommunity.com

CTRL+F fixed an issue where the PC version ran the portal sections slower and less smooth than the PS5 version, regardless of hardware? Maybe in the next update

 

[Necrokiller]

Like I said, they can't be trusted.

No reason not to trust them unless you can point to the contrary. Video is legit

It's valid as far as I'm concerned.

Very Low
Low
Medium
PS5 MID <----------- midpoint
High
Very High
Ultra

It's okay. Maybe in your dimension you have your own version of english

What we have yet to see is a gameplay video with a frame time graph and y-axis labeled during the portal segment

Fund it and I shall give you what you deserve

CTRL+F fixed an issue where the PC version ran the portal sections slower and less smooth than the PS5 version, regardless of hardware? Maybe in the next update

Triple the performance of PS5. Smoothest on PC

 

[CerebralTiger]

No reason not to trust them unless you can point to the contrary. Video is legit

There's every reason not to trust a random YouTube video that doesn't even show what version is installed.

It's okay. Maybe in your dimension you have your own version of english

In English, I refer to the term Medium as mid

Triple the performance of PS5. Smoothest on PC

Not the portal section and doesn't even have a frame time graph

 

[Necrokiller]

There's every reason not to trust a random YouTube video that doesn't even show what version is installed.

Here is a video of the portal section crashing on PS5.

But hey, for all we know he installed a floppy drive on his PS5. Right?

In English, I refer to the term Medium as mid

In english, mid means "occupying a middle position".

Which, thanks to the PC version, we now know the PS5 version does

Not the portal section and doesn't even have a frame time graph

We don't have a portal section with unlocked frame rates tho, so the foooool potential is being capped

 

[CerebralTiger]

But hey, for all we know he installed a floppy drive on his PS5. Right?

Or running off the disc w/o the day one update installed. ZOMG inconceivable

In english, mid means "occupying a middle position".

And in the same language, Medium is referred to as the half-way point between two extremes, which the PS5 version does better than in the LOD department

We don't have a portal section with unlocked frame rates tho, so the foooool potential is being capped

The same is true for the PS5 version, which runs higher than 60 fps in Performance mode. Both versions were capped from reaching their fooool potential

 

[Necrokiller]

Or running off the disc w/o the day one update installed. ZOMG inconceivable

Everyone showing a crash must be doing it wrong. ZOMG that denial

And in the same language, Medium is referred to as the half-way point between two extremes, which the PS5 version does better than in the LOD department

And therefore, in case of the spectrum of Rift Apart's LOD settings, half-way point is the MIDpoint which the PS5 version is doing. Glad we cleared it out

The same is true for the PS5 version, which runs higher than 60 fps in Performance mode. Both versions were capped from reaching their fooool potential

But we also know with DLSS3 with RT on can run above 200fps, which is already smoother than whatever PS5 can handle in any of its modes, let alone without RT

In other news, the reviews are coming in:

That's how it done Naughty Dog. Take note. Nixxes stays winning

 

[CerebralTiger]

And therefore, in case of the spectrum of Rift Apart's LOD settings, half-way point is the MIDpoint which the PS5 version is doing. Glad we cleared it out

Yes, and PS5 is above Medium for the LOD setting

But we also know with DLSS3 with RT on can run above 200fps, which is already smoother than whatever PS5 can handle in any of its modes, let alone without RT

Not during the portal sections with those large stutters it ain't

 

[Necrokiller]

Yes, and PS5 is above Medium for the LOD setting

Arguing semantics won't change the fact that Cerny certified version turned out to be MID lmao. For instance, the SSR setting is either OFF, High, Very High. The "medium/mid-point" in this case would be what they have labeled "High".

As for the LOD setting:

Very Low
Low
Medium
PS5 MID <----------- midpoint = half-way
High
Very High
Ultra

Ab bhi na samajh aye to koi haal nahi. Case closed

Not during the portal sections with those large stutters it ain't

Both versions stutter and only one version is massively smoother with uncapped frame rates

 

[Radical]

Bhai, Alex ka verdict do baar aa chuka hay.

Portal segments, which was the highlight and the selling point of the game specifically designed around the PS5 hardware, is best executed on the PS5.

PC with all its ' glorious ' nvidia intel nvme direct stooooorage gpu plankay dingray shit, cant do better than the PS5.

PS5 is the definitive platform to play this game. Period.

Ab PG k laloo panjoo manay ya na manay, kisi bi jallan ki waja se, woh alag mamla hay.

 

[Danish_karachi]

Bhai, Alex ka verdict do baar aa chuka hay.

Portal segments, which was the highlight and the selling point of the game specifically designed around the PS5 hardware, is best executed on the PS5.

PC with all its ' glorious ' nvidia intel nvme direct stooooorage gpu plankay dingray shit, cant do better than the PS5.

PS5 is the definitive platform to play this game. Period.

Ab PG k laloo panjoo manay ya na manay, kisi bi jallan ki waja se, woh alag mamla hay.

Agreed 100 percent. PS5 is the definitive platform to play this PS5 exclusive, as confirmed by Alex.

The video conclusion (14:03) perfectly sums up the debate.

I find it amazing (and somewhat controversial) how comparable and even better exclusives perform on the people's console, PS5, when compared to $3000+ high-end PCs with 4080/4090 that only a few can afford.

In comparison, all platforms seem to be created equal for non-exclusive recent AAA games, like Returnal, Atomic Heart, and Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order etc.

 

[CerebralTiger]

Both versions stutter and only one version is massively smoother with uncapped frame rates

AHAHAHAHA massively smoother

And this is coming from Necrokiller certified NX Gamer