Official AC Thread for Buying Air Conditioners

[Gameover]

I'm assuming we're talking about the respective ACs' life in Karachi weather?

Perhaps their customer service has improved now, who knows. I've heard good things about PEL's cooling potential. I'm also eyeing Kenwood very closely but for some reason want to avoid Haier and Gree altogether.

well i am in Lahore.. and i think Lahore is a bit warmer in summer. as for cooling i dont think there is a difference. all cool equally i would buy the most reliable brand as Split repairs are costly, mere gas filling is charged for 3k these days and if you get it charged from company they take 4k.

I had a SABRO split as well and its compressor malfunctioned after 4 - 5 years, so i got the compressor replaced for around 18k which again went kaput after a year so it was a bad decision.

from the 2 you have mentioned my vote is for kenwood, about PEL i havent heard anything good about them and have shared my experience as well.

 

[MadGamer]

well i am in Lahore.. and i think Lahore is a bit warmer in summer. as for cooling i dont think there is a difference. all cool equally i would buy the most reliable brand as Split repairs are costly, mere gas filling is charged for 3k these days and if you get it charged from company they take 4k.

I had a SABRO split as well and its compressor malfunctioned after 4 - 5 years, so i got the compressor replaced for around 18k which again went kaput after a year so it was a bad decision.

from the 2 you have mentioned my vote is for kenwood, about PEL i havent heard anything good about them and have shared my experience as well.

Interestingly, the PEL one offers a 10 year warranty on the compressor while Kenwood offer 3 years. 1 year each for parts.

The Kenwood evap coil did look very clean and well built. No bent fins at all. The brand new ACs that I had a look at during my research had a few bent fins here and there as I inspected them up close.

Off-topic: new problem has surfaced however - my waves 1 ton AC has started dripping water inside the room. I partially opened the cover to adjust the drain pan and pipe but the issue persists. I suppose the only thing left to do is to take the cover off completely, detach the drain pan from the assembly and reattach the pipe. I don't want to mess anything up though. Any suggestions?

 

[bravoguy]

One more thing important about PEL 1.5 Tons that they are energy efficient compressors consumes an average 5 point something amps as compared to other 1.5 Tons consumes approx. 8+ amps.
Do check the side panel of indoors of PEL and other brands for amp comparision.

 

[07ee17]

Interestingly, the PEL one offers a 10 year warranty on the compressor while Kenwood offer 3 years. 1 year each for parts.

The Kenwood evap coil did look very clean and well built. No bent fins at all. The brand new ACs that I had a look at during my research had a few bent fins here and there as I inspected them up close.

Off-topic: new problem has surfaced however - my waves 1 ton AC has started dripping water inside the room. I partially opened the cover to adjust the drain pan and pipe but the issue persists. I suppose the only thing left to do is to take the cover off completely, detach the drain pan from the assembly and reattach the pipe. I don't want to mess anything up though. Any suggestions?

Dripping water most probably means that your AC is running low on refrigerant. Get your AC refrigerant checked and make sure that the pressure is full.

 

[Gameover]

Off-topic: new problem has surfaced however - my waves 1 ton AC has started dripping water inside the room. I partially opened the cover to adjust the drain pan and pipe but the issue persists. I suppose the only thing left to do is to take the cover off completely, detach the drain pan from the assembly and reattach the pipe. I don't want to mess anything up though. Any suggestions?

is the drip near the drain pipe or the other side? if its near the drain pipe then yes it could be that the pipe is loose or the drain is clogged or drain pipes is blocked from outside or the level is raised a bit which makes the tray overflow.

a simple check to check if coolant is low is that half of your condenser will be cold/wet and other half wont be.

dripping also happens when inner condenser is dirty, i had a dripping from middle area of my AC i cleaned the filters and cleaned the condenser with a toothbrush as well and then stopped the dripping.

by the way 10 year warranty is really good if they dont have any hidden conditions.

 

[MadGamer]

is the drip near the drain pipe or the other side? if its near the drain pipe then yes it could be that the pipe is loose or the drain is clogged or drain pipes is blocked from outside or the level is raised a bit which makes the tray overflow.

a simple check to check if coolant is low is that half of your condenser will be cold/wet and other half wont be.

dripping also happens when inner condenser is dirty, i had a dripping from middle area of my AC i cleaned the filters and cleaned the condenser with a toothbrush as well and then stopped the dripping.

by the way 10 year warranty is really good if they dont have any hidden conditions.

The drip is near the drain pipe and right where the drain pan is (under the evap coil). There's no water dripping from underneath the unit on the wall, just the front part of the AC.

Well, I haven't checked the evap coil to see if half of it is cold but I do not believe it is low on refigerant as the condenser outside does not have ice on either pipe. Both pipes are cold to the touch. As for the inner coil being dirty, yes I can see damp dirt accumulating on the far right, and the left portion also looks like it could use some cleaning. So I'll try to clean the coil with a toothbrush then, along with the filters and condenser coil outside, to see if that makes a difference.

Do I need to dip the toothbrush in a solution mixed with water? Surely *not* baking soda as coils get damaged very easily. The last thing I want to do is cause a leak.

Thank you everybody for the timely feedback!

Update: Got the Kenwood KLV 1815S. Disappointed with the cooling. Had it on for nearly 90 mins and it did not cool my hall properly. I used to have a 1.5 ton SG split AC there which worked great. I think the Kenwood may be low on gas because its kicking out a lot of water from the drain pipe, but not cooling at the same level inside. Plus, I noticed the copper pipes on the condenser unit are not cold to the touch, just cool. As far as I know they should be cold enough to make you want to move your hand away after a while.

 

[mohammadyahya]

Hey guys. Need to buy a new AC. Was wondering whether I should get a regular one or inverter AC. Can anyone with the right knowledge give me an analysis of the savings in electricity bill from the inverter AC against the saving in price in a regular AC over an estimated usage of 5 years. Based on what I've looked up so far, a regular 1ton Kenwood would fall in the 32-35k price range whereas an inverter one would fall somewhere between 50-55k. Usage would be around 7hrs a week.

 

[MadGamer]

Hey guys. Need to buy a new AC. Was wondering whether I should get a regular one or inverter AC. Can anyone with the right knowledge give me an analysis of the savings in electricity bill from the inverter AC against the saving in price in a regular AC over an estimated usage of 5 years. Based on what I've looked up so far, a regular 1ton Kenwood would fall in the 32-35k price range whereas an inverter one would fall somewhere between 50-55k. Usage would be around 7hrs a week.

There are definitely savings to be had but not by a huge margin. However, I'm told by some of the AC shop guys that inverters don't cool as well as the regular ones.

And don't ever get a Kenwood! I got one recently and returned it the next day as its cooling capacity was terrible.

 

[mohammadyahya]

There are definitely savings to be had but not by a huge margin. However, I'm told by some of the AC shop guys that inverters don't cool as well as the regular ones.

And don't ever get a Kenwood! I got one recently and returned it the next day as its cooling capacity was terrible.

I have an inverter kenwood AC at home but only been like 2 to 3 weeks since we got it. Trust me it cools much much better than regular ACs. And we have been using kenwood ACs since the past 5 years now so they are pretty much reliable. I just need one for my office so I was wondering whether I would save a lot more than the 20k difference in price over the 4 to 5 years of expected usage?

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[Druid]

I have an inverter kenwood AC at home but only been like 2 to 3 weeks since we got it. Trust me it cools much much better than regular ACs. And we have been using kenwood ACs since the past 5 years now so they are pretty much reliable. I just need one for my office so I was wondering whether I would save a lot more than the 20k difference in price over the 4 to 5 years of expected usage?

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Yes, it would. We installed kenwood 1.5 ton invertor in our home (1st floor, directly prone to sunlight) about 3 months back. Till now i haven't felt the need to lower temp below 27 Celsius. It runs 12 - 14 hours daily and max bill wrt AC was 3k. Our home has separate meters for both floors and the upper one has the AC as the main power hog. Last year with regular AC, bill was in ranges of 12k - 15k.

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[MadGamer]

Yes, it would. We installed kenwood 1.5 ton invertor in our home (1st floor, directly prone to sunlight) about 3 months back. Till now i haven't felt the need to lower temp below 27 Celsius. It runs 12 - 14 hours daily and max bill wrt AC was 3k. Our home has separate meters for both floors and the upper one has the AC as the main power hog. Last year with regular AC, bill was in ranges of 12k - 15k.

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Hmm, so not only are there savings to be had but inverters cool better than regular split ACs? This is news to me.

Time to consider an inverter one then. But I'll have to stretch my budget to at least 60k for a 1.5 ton model, correct? Not necessarily Kenwood, can be any reliable brand.

 

[mohammadyahya]

Yes, it would. We installed kenwood 1.5 ton invertor in our home (1st floor, directly prone to sunlight) about 3 months back. Till now i haven't felt the need to lower temp below 27 Celsius. It runs 12 - 14 hours daily and max bill wrt AC was 3k. Our home has separate meters for both floors and the upper one has the AC as the main power hog. Last year with regular AC, bill was in ranges of 12k - 15k.

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This information is convincing enough to get an invertor one over a regular one. Anyone else with some stats?

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[mohammadyahya]

Hmm, so not only are there savings to be had but inverters cool better than regular split ACs? This is news to me.

Time to consider an inverter one then. But I'll have to stretch my budget to at least 60k for a 1.5 ton model, correct? Not necessarily Kenwood, can be any reliable brand.

Haier's invertor ACs are selling in the range of 40-45k but I'm not sure about the reliability and longevity of those though.

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[Druid]

Hmm, so not only are there savings to be had but inverters cool better than regular split ACs? This is news to me.

Time to consider an inverter one then. But I'll have to stretch my budget to at least 60k for a 1.5 ton model, correct? Not necessarily Kenwood, can be any reliable brand.

Yes, an inverter would certainly serve you better. Any decent brand would do, just get the appropriate tonnage wrt the room/space involved.

 

[MadGamer]

Haier's invertor ACs are selling in the range of 40-45k but I'm not sure about the reliability and longevity of those though.

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I think you must be referring to the 1 ton Inverter models because I just bought a 1.5 ton Haier Inverter for 61k.

The cooling's just okay. I'm not that impressed. I have it installed in my hall which is about 200 sq. ft. To my knowledge, a 18000 BTU split AC is good for a space as big as 700 sq. ft.

Yes, an inverter would certainly serve you better. Any decent brand would do, just get the appropriate tonnage wrt the room/space involved.

Using a 1.5 ton Inverter for my hall that isn't that big at all. Cooling is fine. Not chilled but at least I'm not sweating and my clothes don't feel warm anymore.

 

[mohammadyahya]

I think you must be referring to the 1 ton Inverter models because I just bought a 1.5 ton Haier Inverter for 61k.

The cooling's just okay. I'm not that impressed. I have it installed in my hall which is about 200 sq. ft. To my knowledge, a 18000 BTU split AC is good for a space as big as 700 sq. ft.



Using a 1.5 ton Inverter for my hall that isn't that big at all. Cooling is fine. Not chilled but at least I'm not sweating and my clothes don't feel warm anymore.

Yes since I require a 1 ton, I did my research on those models [emoji14]

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[sweetstyle]

any shop in karachi that sell acson inverter 1ton for decent price?

 

[sinnersaint]

bhai log, please recommend a 1 ton inverter AC plz. I think ones with copper wiring are good?

main thing is that bijli ka bill buhat araha ha, that's why need something which will reduce the bill becoz cannot take kunda


please advise....

 

[sinnersaint]

bhai log, please advise if this one is any good...

Haier Inverter Split Air Conditioner 1.0 Ton Price in Pakistan | Buy Haier Inverter Split Air Conditioner 1.0 Ton (HSU-12HNH/DC) | iShopping.pk

 

[GloriousChicken]

bhai log, please advise if this one is any good...

Haier Inverter Split Air Conditioner 1.0 Ton Price in Pakistan | Buy Haier Inverter Split Air Conditioner 1.0 Ton (HSU-12HNH/DC) | iShopping.pk

Haier A/Cs are good for a start. Not sure about how they do in the long run though.

As for how they save money and all, dont give into all that.

Make sure to get it under warranty
More so due to the fact regular maintenance from your local AC wala wont work on them.