[GUIDE] Router Configuration - Connect Communications

[cobby]

Bro you got it all wrong in step 7, what I meant to say that your DHCP should be off on all Routers except the Primary since only primary router will allocate IP Address automatically when you are connected to your 2nd or 3rd Router via Wire or Wifi, considering both those Routers are linked with the primary router. If you turn DHCP on, on more than one device than that particular ROuter will try to allocate its IP not the Primary Routers.

So bro clear your confusion.

So devices connected through router 2nd and 3rd will they get automatic ip , cause dhcp is turned off in 2nd and 3rd or will the primary router router 1 will do dhcp job of both routers 2&3 .
Clear me this confusion

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[Ibbu Bhai]

The primary router 1 who's dhcp will do the job for both router's where as 2nd and 3rd will act as an access point or switch.

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[Maverick]

Bro ive recently studied CCN and CCNA so I know what I saying and telling people, so rather than telling me what to do, I would recommend you to ask the professionals as well, and they'll tell you that I'm correct. The thing you are trying to tell me well you are confusing yourself and that is with IP Address Classes. What I suggested on those 10 steps was only relevant to Class C IP Address not A,B or D or any other class, as for subnetmask well let me correct you, If your primary Router is set to 192.168.1.1 this its Subnet will be 255.255.255.0 where as if we would set 192.168.2.1 or 2nd Router and 192.168.3.1 on 3rd Router our subnetmask will still be same. So kindly correct yourself before correcting me my dear bro. If you want proof then personally go to your router and set 192.168.3.1 or 192.169.2.1 and then check the subnet mask which your Router will automatically pick or detect that would be 255.255.255.0.

If you want to have a meeting or an argument then feel free to talk to me on Skype and ill show you and give you live demonstrations. But please don't miss guide people since you're new here and ive been serving people in PG and outside PG for years and not a single one had ever complained. You can find my Skype ID under my PG Name Tag if you like to have a conversations on this topic. Otherwise you're just wasting your time.

First of all, my friend, no need to get so defensive. I am sure you are trying to help people and I appreciate the effort as well as your certifications.

Coming back to the topic, I was not interested in the subnets or the ip classes as both were irrelevant in this case, I was talking about the subset (you do understand the difference b/w subnets and ip subsets??). Consider the following:

Primary Router 'A' is on IP subset 192.168.0.1 and is also set as the DHCP Server with an IP pool of 200 in the range of 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.201
Secondary Router (Supplementary/Cascading Router) 'B' has a fixed ip 192.168.1.1

In this case, as per you, the primary router 'A' will serve as the DHCP server and provide ip's to all devices that are connecting to router 'b', is that right? This is where I think you might have made a mistake as the ip that you manually set for the supplementary router is not a part of the ip subset of the primary router. On the other hand, if you had set a static ip of 192.168.0.2 on the second router and switched off its routing functions (along with DHCP) then it will work as per your requirement.

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So devices connected through router 2nd and 3rd will they get automatic ip , cause dhcp is turned off in 2nd and 3rd or will the primary router router 1 will do dhcp job of both routers 2&3 .
Clear me this confusion

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You may try Ibbu Bhai's advice and if it works, well and good. If it does not work, you can try my advice and it will work.

 

[AbbY]

9. Now disconnect your Second Router from your PC or Laptop, and connect both Routers with each other, take a second Ethernet Cable, plug it in Router 1's any LAN port. Now put the other End of the LAN Cable on your Second Router which you have just configured, but remember to put the other end in seconds Router LAN port not in WAN.

That's it? No settings no nothing?
I plug them both with each other and then remove it?

 

[cobby]

First of all, my friend, no need to get so defensive. I am sure you are trying to help people and I appreciate the effort as well as your certifications.

Coming back to the topic, I was not interested in the subnets or the ip classes as both were irrelevant in this case, I was talking about the subset (you do understand the difference b/w subnets and ip subsets??). Consider the following:

Primary Router 'A' is on IP subset 192.168.0.1 and is also set as the DHCP Server with an IP pool of 200 in the range of 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.201
Secondary Router (Supplementary/Cascading Router) 'B' has a fixed ip 192.168.1.1

In this case, as per you, the primary router 'A' will serve as the DHCP server and provide ip's to all devices that are connecting to router 'b', is that right? This is where I think you might have made a mistake as the ip that you manually set for the supplementary router is not a part of the ip subset of the primary router. On the other hand, if you had set a static ip of 192.168.0.2 on the second router and switched off its routing functions (along with DHCP) then it will work as per your requirement.

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You may try Ibbu Bhai's advice and if it works, well and good. If it does not work, you can try my advice and it will work.

Oh yes u are spot on that to , I checked just my dhcp its from 192.168.0-255 how will it give ip of 192.168.1.* ips , ibubhai u have answer for that maverick got a point here

 

[Ibbu Bhai]

HAHa guys you are mixing things as well as my simple logic, what I can do is set up a meet on Skype so who ever wants to clear him self can come and talk to me. Explaining here will make you guys more confused. Also today il'l attach some pics which will clear your misconception.

 

[Ibbu Bhai]

That's it? No settings no nothing?
I plug them both with each other and then remove it?

Yes all you need to change the IP Addresses of your 2nd and 3rd device along with turn of DHCP, and when done connect those Router with the Primary Router via LAN Port.

 

[Ibbu Bhai]

Oh yes u are spot on that to , I checked just my dhcp its from 192.168.0-255 how will it give ip of 192.168.1.* ips , ibubhai u have answer for that maverick got a point here

Sorry for this but are you dumb or trying to become one. Why the hell you don't understand a simple thing that if your Primary Router is set to 192.168.0.1 along with DHCP enabled and with this Router you have connected a 2nd Router with the Ip Address of 192.168.1.1 and on 3rd Router your IP Address is set to 192.168.2.1 along with DHCP is off on these two Router than they would have no option left to Bypass the IP Address which is coming from 192.168.0.1 by giving you the Internet facilities.

Okay lets say that I agree with you and [MENTION=1973]Maverick[/MENTION] that what will happen to those 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.2.1 Ip Addresses well my dear dear bro's the answer to that question is simple. Those Address will be dummy Address which your Router would need at all costs no matter what, its like their identity which is mandatory.

There's an other solution for this as well if you are so conscience of saving these stupid IP Addresses then just simply go to your Primary Router and Limit the IP Addresses in DHCP field which is Starting IP Add: 192.168.0.2 and Ending IP Address:192.168.0.200 now you have 54 IP Address left behind not 55 because the last address will be the broadcast address which you can't use. So now what you can do that is set 192.168.0.201 along with DHCP off and set 192.168.0.210 IP Address 3rd Router with DHCP off. This will also get IP Address from the Primary Router as it should.

What I did just because you of [MENTION=1973]Maverick[/MENTION] is that I set 192.168.4.1 on my Primary Router to which I'm not connected directly and who's DHCP is enabled, the Router to whom I'm connected I changed its IP Address from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.4.201 and enabled DHCP on it as well. What it did to me when I rebooted the Router to which I'm connected it gave me its IP Address from 192.168.4.203 and my Internet stopped working I rebooted that Router again to whom I'm connected what it did, now it gave me 192.168.4.2 which wasn't his IP Address from its Routing table. The reason now he gave me 192.168.4.2 is because its DHCP Server is confused that which Router is Primary so that's the reason DHCP should be only on , on primary Router not the other routers connected to the primary router. Yes I agree with you by this that why the hell waste so my IP Address, but the case of DHCP remains the same that no matter you're in 192.168.4.201 IP loop but its DHCP should be disabled.

 

[Maverick]

Well I guess the user who needs the solution can try the solution provided by [MENTION=22089]Ibbu Bhai[/MENTION] and when it fails to work, and it will fail because it does not make any logic, then he/she is more then welcome to try my solution.

 

[Ibbu Bhai]

Well I guess the user who needs the solution can try the solution provided by @Ibbu Bhai and when it fails to work, and it will fail because it does not make any logic, then he/she is more then welcome to try my solution.

If you put it this way then may the best man win, since you don't a shit about these things.

 

[Ibbu Bhai]

Well I guess the user who needs the solution can try the solution provided by @Ibbu Bhai and when it fails to work, and it will fail because it does not make any logic, then he/she is more then welcome to try my solution.

Today I showed this whole conversation to my University Networking Professor he sad that Ibrar what you have told is absolutely correct where as your friend here isn't making any sense at all.

Lastly how many times did I offered you to come at Skype so that we might discuss our issues but you acted like stubborn kid and just made stupid comments which made no sense at all, still my discussion is open for you, if you're not ready to accept the reality then grow up before making false accusations. I wish you all the very best for the Future, Peace.

 

[Maverick]

Today I showed this whole conversation to my University Networking Professor he sad that Ibrar what you have told is absolutely correct where as your friend here isn't making any sense at all.

Lastly how many times did I offered you to come at Skype so that we might discuss our issues but you acted like stubborn kid and just made stupid comments which made no sense at all, still my discussion is open for you, if you're not ready to accept the reality then grow up before making false assumptions. I which you all the very best for the Future, Peace.

Your university networking professor actually said that? Then you must be right.

P.S. My young friend, would it not have been better had you asked me what I do for a living? Honestly, I admire your enthusiasm so I wish not to embarrass you. However, let me atleast state on record here that my Networking team works on equipment & technologies that your university professor can only dream about.....that is, unless he happens to be the IT head of some telecom such as PTCL etc.

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If you put it this way then may the best man win, since you don't a shit about these things.

This is not how decent folks argue.

 

[Ibbu Bhai]

Your university networking professor actually said that? Then you must be right.

P.S. My young friend, would it not have been better had you asked me what I do for a living? Honestly, I admire your enthusiasm so I wish not to embarrass you. However, let me atleast state on record here that my Networking team works on equipment & technologies that your university professor can only dream about.....that is, unless he happens to be the IT head of some telecom such as PTCL etc.

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This is not how decent folks argue.

I'm just clearing my point here I have no grudge against anyone, especially you. I prefer anyone's help but the thing that made me frustrated that you kept on telling people that it will not work where as how can you even say that if you haven't seen and talked to me personally when I welcomed you countless time like a mature person to have a chat man to man. About my Professor well my dear bro you have no idea how much knowledge he has about programing and networking. No doubt that you maybe on a Higher rank in PTCL or what ever, but at least have to curtsey to listen what other person is delivering or trying to deliver. I'm sorry that I got a little obsessive of what I was telling but me and my couple of fellow mates agreed with my attitude. We Pakistanis has a big problem that we don't accept someone's success, I'm not saying that you are doing the same but a least try to accept and understand someone's logic. Lastly I'd tried to be decent in everyway and being decent right now, but its you who doesn't accept peoples suggestions and arguments kindly try to change that and then everyone will love to hear you.

 

[Maverick]

I'm just clearing my point here I have no grudge against anyone, especially you. I prefer anyone's help but the thing that made me frustrated that you kept on telling people that it will not work where as how can you even say that if you haven't seen and talked to me personally when I welcomed you countless time like a mature person to have a chat man to man. About my Professor well my dear bro you have no idea how much knowledge he has about programing and networking. No doubt that you maybe on a Higher rank in PTCL or what ever, but at least have to curtsey to listen what other person is delivering or trying to deliver. I'm sorry that I got a little obsessive of what I was telling but me and my couple of fellow mates agreed with my attitude. We Pakistanis has a big problem that we don't accept someone's success, I'm not saying that you are doing the same but a least try to accept and understand someone's logic. Lastly I'd tried to be decent in everyway and being decent right now, but its you who doesn't accept peoples suggestions and arguments kindly try to change that and then everyone will love to hear you.

First of all let me make it perfectly clear that I am not employed by PTCL. What I meant by my sentence was that only a giant telecom IT Techhie who had experience on communication equipment would be able to offer an opinion or advice higher then mine. I respected your attempts to help others. However, the person whom you consider a stubborn kid is actually the IT Head of his organization!

Instead of wasting my time with you on skype, I can actually offer you an opportunity to visit a real data centre that services thousands of PC's interconnected throughout Pakistan through LAN & WAN using equipment that the professor of your university can not even dream about!

Alternatively I can get one of my Network Engineers to explain things to you or even track down a Cisco/Juniper Engineer who can explain these trivial things to you in more detail.


But remember 2 things, always, first that ego is a very bad trait & second, there is always someone more experienced and smarter out there. Furthermore, there is no experience like real world experience, things that books cannot teach you. Trust me when I say this, but you still have a lot to learn.

Finally, lets wait for the person who requested the solution to see whose solution actually works.

 

[Ibbu Bhai]

First of all let me make it perfectly clear that I am not employed by PTCL. What I meant by my sentence was that only a giant telecom IT Techhie who had experience on communication equipment would be able to offer an opinion or advice higher then mine. I respected your attempts to help others. However, the person whom you consider a stubborn kid is actually the IT Head of his organization!

Instead of wasting my time with you on skype, I can actually offer you an opportunity to visit a real data centre that services thousands of PC's interconnected throughout Pakistan through LAN & WAN using equipment that the professor of your university can not even dream about!

Alternatively I can get one of my Network Engineers to explain things to you or even track down a Cisco/Juniper Engineer who can explain these trivial things to you in more detail.


But remember 2 things, always, first that ego is a very bad trait & second, there is always someone more experienced and smarter out there. Furthermore, there is no experience like real world experience, things that books cannot teach you. Trust me when I say this, but you still have a lot to learn.

Finally, lets wait for the person who requested the solution to see whose solution actually works.

Haha bro I think you took that KID part a bit to serious. Its a pleasure to know that you are a Head of an IT Firm. But in the end you made a mistake that you compared again, which shows ego that you know all the stuff and we don't know anything. Well everyone has a different perspective so my main goal and aim is to serve my people in best way I can. So therefore I don't see a reason that where I'm showing ego. Lastly it would be an honor for me to get more knowledge in networks so whoever wants to help or guide me my doors are always open. So from my end I'm open for opinions and help but I really really hate that person who tries to correct me when I know that things works like charm when I have solid evidence, weather he's an IT Head or CEO, you can never wrong a persons logic but you can help or guide him to improve his logic and that's what I'm asking from you which is guidance if there's any need in my logic.

Haha bro again you are wrong again, I don't prefer Books so today where I'm standing is because of what I've implemented physically, because in my perspective I prefer Networking should be learned physically not by books and that's what I did, I learned everything by myself, along with helping people and by staying awake day and night to achieve the goals that came in my mind. So if you consider self learning my ego well its your thought I can't change that, In my view its obsession which is great and in the end will help me to stand in front of people like you which would be a great achievement, you already know the person with a big and unique idea is accepted by the world, not the ones who learned from books and are roaming here and there on the roads.


As for my Professor I think you don't have the Idea how much knowledge he has, so please correct yourself bro. As for Cisco/Juniper and other stuff he already told us about this during our lectures so for me its nothing new or impressive, I'm impressed only by those people who try to compete me or think like me or beyond me but in physical perspective.

 

[Maverick]

Haha bro I think you took that KID part a bit to serious. Its a pleasure to know that you are a Head of an IT Firm. But in the end you made a mistake that you compared again, which shows ego that you know all the stuff and we don't know anything. Well everyone has a different perspective so my main goal and aim is to serve my people in best way I can. So therefore I don't see a reason that where I'm showing ego. Lastly it would be an honor for me to get more knowledge in networks so whoever wants to help or guide me my doors are always open. So from my end I'm open for opinions and help but I really really hate that person who tries to correct me when I know that things works like charm when I have solid evidence, weather he's an IT Head or CEO, you can never wrong a persons logic but you can help or guide him to improve his logic and that's what I'm asking from you which is guidance if there's any need in my logic.

I was not showing ego, I was merely trying to force across the point that I am a part of a team that actually implements things that we are talking about, and at a scale beyond your comprehension because of lack of exposure on your part being a student.

Haha bro again you are wrong again, I don't prefer Books so today where I'm standing is because of what I've implemented physically, because in my perspective I prefer Networking should be learned physically not by books and that's what I did, I learned everything by myself, along with helping people and by staying awake day and night to achieve the goals that came in my mind. So if you consider self learning my ego well its your thought I can't change that, In my view its obsession which is great and in the end will help me to stand in front of people like you which would be a great achievement, you already know the person with a big and unique idea is accepted by the world, not the ones who learned from books and are roaming here and there on the roads.

I can only imagine how practical your experiments have been when you are attempting to force a home router’s dhcp server to provide ip to devices connected to a router on a different subset! I mean you have to be a genius to be able to do that, you must have invented a new topology.

As for my Professor I think you don't have the Idea how much knowledge he has, so please correct yourself bro. As for Cisco/Juniper and other stuff he already told us about this during our lectures so for me its nothing new or impressive, I'm impressed only by those people who try to compete me or think like me or beyond me but in physical perspective.

Most obviously your professor’s knowledge exceeds that of any other human on Earth. And it’s a surprise really that he has told you guys about Cisco/Juniper…..the 2 largest Network equipment manufacturers.

Can you please ask your professor to tell you what clearance is required before a firewall (from one of those American manufacturers) can be imported by Pakistan? It is a fundamental question that all those who actually operate networks know.

 

[Ibbu Bhai]

I was not showing ego, I was merely trying to force across the point that I am a part of a team that actually implements things that we are talking about, and at a scale beyond your comprehension because of lack of exposure on your part being a student.





I can only imagine how practical your experiments have been when you are attempting to force a home router’s dhcp server to provide ip to devices connected to a router on a different subset! I mean you have to be a genius to be able to do that, you must have invented a new topology.





Most obviously your professor’s knowledge exceeds that of any other human on Earth. And it’s a surprise really that he has told you guys about Cisco/Juniper…..the 2 largest Network equipment manufacturers.

Can you please ask your professor to tell you what clearance is required before a firewall (from one of those American manufacturers) can be imported by Pakistan? It is a fundamental question that all those who actually operate networks know.

Sure I will ask him, and you need to relax it's you who's taking things seriously, being civil won't hurt you bro. I didn't said he knows what the others doesn't know I've just said that you can't compete with him since he's senior than you in every expect.

Well I'm not here to bargin or take sides I wanted help that poor fellow which did now I only await his response that's all.

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[Ibbu Bhai]

Man up and talk to me on Skype or else keep quite I don't have time to talk Noobs like you.

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[Maverick]

Man up and talk to me on Skype or else keep quite I don't time to talk Noobs like you.

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Don't have time for kids stuff, I can actually afford to make real calls. PM me your mobile number.

 

[Ibbu Bhai]

Don't have time for kids stuff, I can actually afford to make real calls. PM me your mobile number.

Sorry I don't trust strangers so skype will work.

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