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ahmedfirst67

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I myself using dual Wan Asus router but it's basically for backup purpose like it'll automatically switches to the second wan if the first wan is down , it does provide some load balancing features too but you can't really use them solely as load balancer.


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To follow up with this, some high end ASUS routers have Dual WAN but I'm not sure how effective load balancing would be on a simple SOHO router.

What you're looking for is some carrier grade equipment that can load balance your connections, as Asad said, you can't merge them and have one single connection of 600 Mbps as each connection is assigned a different IP address and there are tons of other complications as to why this isn't possible unless the ISP itself offers such a feature.
With your 1Gbps you don't really need to know it but just to explain how things work.

There is no way combining bandwidth can be done without the ISP providing such a specific service. ( And I don't think FiberLink does )

Computers are Not mind readers. If the two connections are not synchronized at the source your computer would not know how to combine it to a coherent page.

What you can achieve by two separate internet lines is load balancing.

Like if you have two separate 200Mbps lines each capable of downloading at 25MBps. With Load Balancing one single file will not exceed download speed of 25MB/sec. However you can download 2 files at 25MB/sec. or 4 files at 12.5MB/sec etc without choking your whole network.

For load balancing you need a dual wan router. This type of Router have two WAN connections for two Broadband Modems and they would manage the Internet traffic to the LAN in the most efficient way.

They are industrial grade routers and cost way more than the cheap house consumer routers.

P.S For three WAN connection you need even more expensive load balancing device.


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Thank You But [MENTION=138104]asaddon[/MENTION]e How Much Those Router Will Cost???And IF i can't Merge 2 Connection Then It Is okay For me :) Just Need 1 Gigabit Connection Which I can Get from fiberlink With 3 200Mbps Connections.
 

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Thank You But [MENTION=138104]asaddon[/MENTION]e How Much Those Router Will Cost???And IF i can't Merge 2 Connection Then It Is okay For me :) Just Need 1 Gigabit Connection Which I can Get from fiberlink With 3 200Mbps Connections.
Industrial grade Cisco load balancers cost more than 1 lac.


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ahmedfirst67

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I myself using dual Wan Asus router but it's basically for backup purpose like it'll automatically switches to the second wan if the first wan is down , it does provide some load balancing features too but you can't really use them solely as load balancer.


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HAHAha What the Hell. Then I think Buying 3 Routers Will be Best :)

To follow up with this, some high end ASUS routers have Dual WAN but I'm not sure how effective load balancing would be on a simple SOHO router.

What you're looking for is some carrier grade equipment that can load balance your connections, as Asad said, you can't merge them and have one single connection of 600 Mbps as each connection is assigned a different IP address and there are tons of other complications as to why this isn't possible unless the ISP itself offers such a feature.
With your 1Gbps you don't really need to know it but just to explain how things work.

There is no way combining bandwidth can be done without the ISP providing such a specific service. ( And I don't think FiberLink does )

Computers are Not mind readers. If the two connections are not synchronized at the source your computer would not know how to combine it to a coherent page.

What you can achieve by two separate internet lines is load balancing.

Like if you have two separate 200Mbps lines each capable of downloading at 25MBps. With Load Balancing one single file will not exceed download speed of 25MB/sec. However you can download 2 files at 25MB/sec. or 4 files at 12.5MB/sec etc without choking your whole network.

For load balancing you need a dual wan router. This type of Router have two WAN connections for two Broadband Modems and they would manage the Internet traffic to the LAN in the most efficient way.

They are industrial grade routers and cost way more than the cheap house consumer routers.

P.S For three WAN connection you need even more expensive load balancing device.


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Industrial grade Cisco load balancers cost more than 1 lac.


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With your 1Gbps you don't really need to know it but just to explain how things work.

There is no way combining bandwidth can be done without the ISP providing such a specific service. ( And I don't think FiberLink does )

Computers are Not mind readers. If the two connections are not synchronized at the source your computer would not know how to combine it to a coherent page.

What you can achieve by two separate internet lines is load balancing.

Like if you have two separate 200Mbps lines each capable of downloading at 25MBps. With Load Balancing one single file will not exceed download speed of 25MB/sec. However you can download 2 files at 25MB/sec. or 4 files at 12.5MB/sec etc without choking your whole network.

For load balancing you need a dual wan router. This type of Router have two WAN connections for two Broadband Modems and they would manage the Internet traffic to the LAN in the most efficient way.

They are industrial grade routers and cost way more than the cheap house consumer routers.

P.S For three WAN connection you need even more expensive load balancing device.


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I use one such router and it's Dual WAN mode is basically not much usable as a load balancer unless you have to very similar connections (which would be interestingly true in this case). It's more useful as a failover setup but that also has bugs where even after when the original WAN connection is restored, certain devices keep getting routed through the backup WAN (PTCL in my case), which is really annoying.

So far the only workaround I use is to manually switch which LAN port is used for WAN in the config panel when I need to switch the primary WAN.
 

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I use one such router and it's Dual WAN mode is basically not much usable as a load balancer unless you have to very similar connections (which would be interestingly true in this case). It's more useful as a failover setup but that also has bugs where even after when the original WAN connection is restored, certain devices keep getting routed through the backup WAN (PTCL in my case), which is really annoying.

So far the only workaround I use is to manually switch which LAN port is used for WAN in the config panel when I need to switch the primary WAN.
Yeah they are good routers but we can't expect them to work as a dedicated load balancer device.


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[MENTION=137728]ahmedfirst67[/MENTION] BTW, while it is indeed possible to setup bandwidth aggregation on multiple connections (you can opt for a custom Linux box with multiple NICs instead of an expensive load balancer), the problem would be that you'd only see benefits over UDP connections and will probably have trouble over TCP (or use a single physical WAN connection for each TCP connection). So I don't think you'd see any practical benefits of combining 3 x 200 Mbps connections unless the aggregation is being done at the ISP level which can combine and mask your packets from a separate connections to a single one for sending upstream, and then be able to split the responses back into three different sets for downstream.

PTCL provides the service with it's VDSL aggregation service but Fiberlink doesn't. So if you really want a 1 Gbps connection, you should probably relocate to an area where PTCL is offering it's Gigabit GPON services (which has extremely limited coverage so far).
 

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[MENTION=137728]ahmedfirst67[/MENTION] BTW, while it is indeed possible to setup bandwidth aggregation on multiple connections (you can opt for a custom Linux box with multiple NICs instead of an expensive load balancer), the problem would be that you'd only see benefits over UDP connections and will probably have trouble over TCP (or use a single physical WAN connection for each TCP connection). So I don't think you'd see any practical benefits of combining 3 x 200 Mbps connections unless the aggregation is being done at the ISP level which can combine and mask your packets from a separate connections to a single one for sending upstream, and then be able to split the responses back into three different sets for downstream.

PTCL provides the service with it's VDSL aggregation service but Fiberlink doesn't. So if you really want a 1 Gbps connection, you should probably relocate to an area where PTCL is offering it's Gigabit GPON services (which has extremely limited coverage so far).
I'm sure what you said here will go way way above his head, be ready to explain everything in detail lol


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Yeah they are good routers but we can't expect them to work as a dedicated load balancer device.


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It's really not a hardware issue actually. More of a software / firmware one and I've heard from people who have switched to Open-WRT or DD-WRT that the problem basically gets fixed by flashing either of those but I actually like ASUS' firmware so I don't want to go that route since it covers most of my needs anyways.
 

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It's really not a hardware issue actually. More of a software / firmware one and I've heard from people who have switched to Open-WRT or DD-WRT that the problem basically gets fixed by flashing either of those but I actually like ASUS' firmware so I don't want to go that route since it covers most of my needs anyways.
Yup maybe, I didn't try with DD-Wrt yet on this router as me too like the ASUS firmware style ( and I can't use ASUS app if I switch to DD-Wrt ) so I'm currently using AsusWRT-Merlin port which is basically Asus firmware with added fixes and enhancements.


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I'm sure what you said here will go way way above his head, be ready to explain everything in detail lol


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Lol the key takeaway for his is the last line really. It should be simple enough to understand.

BTW, have you started getting double bandwidth in Happy Hours? I've heard from at least one person on Facebook that they are getting 400 Mbps during Happy Hours so it is indeed working for some people.
 

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BTW, have you started getting double bandwidth in Happy Hours? I've heard from at least one person on Facebook that they are getting 400 Mbps during Happy Hours so it is indeed working for some people.
No not yet and I assume no one in this forum is getting it either but I'm constantly bugging them and today they gave me two days time so let's see.


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@ahmedfirst67 BTW, while it is indeed possible to setup bandwidth aggregation on multiple connections (you can opt for a custom Linux box with multiple NICs instead of an expensive load balancer), the problem would be that you'd only see benefits over UDP connections and will probably have trouble over TCP (or use a single physical WAN connection for each TCP connection). So I don't think you'd see any practical benefits of combining 3 x 200 Mbps connections unless the aggregation is being done at the ISP level which can combine and mask your packets from a separate connections to a single one for sending upstream, and then be able to split the responses back into three different sets for downstream.

PTCL provides the service with it's VDSL aggregation service but Fiberlink doesn't. So if you really want a 1 Gbps connection, you should probably relocate to an area where PTCL is offering it's Gigabit GPON services (which has extremely limited coverage so far).
I'm sure what you said here will go way way above his head, be ready to explain everything in detail lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE [MENTION=138104]asaddon[/MENTION] Hahaha I got It what He Said :) I am Not that Person Who Don't Know Nothing.Yeah Only Somethings Which Use For High purpose I don't Understand :). [MENTION=11805]UzEE[/MENTION] I have Ptcl 1 Gigabit Connection But It sucks And Sometimes Speed Is almost 800 Mbps While I am Paying For gigabit Connection.PLus Fiberlink Offer Double Mbps At Night And it is Cheap Also. So i want to Go for Fiberlink

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@ahmedfirst67 BTW, while it is indeed possible to setup bandwidth aggregation on multiple connections (you can opt for a custom Linux box with multiple NICs instead of an expensive load balancer), the problem would be that you'd only see benefits over UDP connections and will probably have trouble over TCP (or use a single physical WAN connection for each TCP connection). So I don't think you'd see any practical benefits of combining 3 x 200 Mbps connections unless the aggregation is being done at the ISP level which can combine and mask your packets from a separate connections to a single one for sending upstream, and then be able to split the responses back into three different sets for downstream.

PTCL provides the service with it's VDSL aggregation service but Fiberlink doesn't. So if you really want a 1 Gbps connection, you should probably relocate to an area where PTCL is offering it's Gigabit GPON services (which has extremely limited coverage so far).
I'm sure what you said here will go way way above his head, be ready to explain everything in detail lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE [MENTION=138104]asaddon[/MENTION] Hahaha I got It what He Said :) I am Not that Person Who Don't Know Nothing.Yeah Only Somethings Which Use For High purpose I don't Understand :). [MENTION=11805]UzEE[/MENTION] I have Ptcl 1 Gigabit Connection But It sucks And Sometimes Speed Is almost 800 Mbps While I am Paying For gigabit Connection.PLus Fiberlink Offer Double Mbps At Night And it is Cheap Also. So i want to Go for Fiberlink
 

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I laud you people for 1. Putting up with this kid, and 2. For actually having the comprehension to understand him. I mostly get lost after the customary "HaHaHhA"
 

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I laud you people for 1. Putting up with this kid, and 2. For actually having the comprehension to understand him. I mostly get lost after the customary "HaHaHhA"
Brings a little life to this otherwise very technical thread.

And I appreciate how everyone participates in an appropriate manner and it never gets out of hand. It's very enjoyable to read. :)
 
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