Dealing with tableeghi people at your door...

[Thugnificent]

I dunno how they are in Karachi but over here they're very polite and take mostly 2 mins tops, of your time. They just come and say Salam, then tell you to come to Masjid after the next prayers for bayaan and leave. I don't see any harm in this. I dunno what irritates you guys.

Also they're spread the word of Allah SWT so i guess you should just stick around and just nod at everything they say and agree with them. Then say you will try to goto the Masjid InshALLAH. After they leave its upto you if you wanna go or not.

They rarely come though, like 3-4 times total in a year.

 

[opethian]

People want a universal remote to change world around them as per their wishes n desires
Mute anyone n anything which they don't like or want to hear
There was a movie like this back in the day
Anyway
Its totally up to you boy
Ur house ur attitude n ur reaction
Deal the way u deal any other person
Mind u they r not beggers or marketing people selling something n I personally respect them go with them at least to next few doors who r my neighbors n if prayer time is approaching join them for at least that prayer
Had a wonderful memory n still I have few fast friends made just through this process
Alhamdulillah


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[Benighted]

Oh bhai just hang a "Michael's House" or "Kumar villa" plaque outside of your homes and you're good to go.

(lmao)

The cake is yours.

 

[crazypathan]

Guess where you people stand? That's right, you guessed it.

 

[Deadly Shadow]

Just to bring a slightly different perspective into this thread, I currently reside in this so called mythical 'West' that some seem to speak of here....lol

Here we have some people that follow a religion called Jehovah's Witnesses. They come knocking on door's aswell, and try to educate the public of their religion.

Unfortunately for them, I do not share their beliefs. I respectfully let them know (in the most politest way) that I am content with my personal views and essentially not interested. They smile and leave. No problem. No nodding with them. None of that "yes, yes, yes, yes. Of course!" No fake promises. No lies.They don't waste their time trying to sell me I something I won't buy since I don't need an ancient book telling me what is right and what is wrong. I don't need a religious lecture. My moral compass works well enough. "Thanks, but no thanks" situation/

 

[lifeinabucket]

Just to bring a slightly different perspective into this thread, I currently reside in this so called mythical 'West' that some seem to speak of here....lol

Here we have some people that follow a religion called Jehovah's Witnesses. They come knocking on door's aswell, and try to educate the public of their religion.

Unfortunately for them, I do not share their beliefs. I respectfully let them know (in the most politest way) that I am content with my personal views and essentially not interested. They smile and leave. No problem. No nodding with them. None of that "yes, yes, yes, yes. Of course!" No fake promises. No lies.They don't waste their time trying to sell me I something I won't buy since I don't need an ancient book telling me what is right and what is wrong. I don't need a religious lecture. My moral compass works well enough. "Thanks, but no thanks" situation/

Do you think the same approach would work with our "highly enlightened , epitome of success society? "

 

[Deadly Shadow]

Do you think the same approach would work with our "highly enlightened , epitome of success society? "

Haha. Your question is obviously rhetorical...but I'll answer anyway.

In short this approach would not work well at all.

I think in Pakistan the vast majority of people are way too sensitive when it comes to Islam. The tableeghi's would most likely take offense at me showing even the slightest disinterest in an open way. And I don't think I am comfortable with offending (when no offense was intended) someone like that.

IMHO.

 

[Ottoman]

Just to bring a slightly different perspective into this thread, I currently reside in this so called mythical 'West' that some seem to speak of here....lol

Here we have some people that follow a religion called Jehovah's Witnesses. They come knocking on door's aswell, and try to educate the public of their religion.

Unfortunately for them, I do not share their beliefs. I respectfully let them know (in the most politest way) that I am content with my personal views and essentially not interested. They smile and leave. No problem. No nodding with them. None of that "yes, yes, yes, yes. Of course!" No fake promises. No lies.They don't waste their time trying to sell me I something I won't buy since I don't need an ancient book telling me what is right and what is wrong. I don't need a religious lecture. My moral compass works well enough. "Thanks, but no thanks" situation/

The reason people here nod and "yes, yes, yes, yes. Of course!" when they come to your door isn't because they fear saying "No". It's either out of politeness or the fact they know, in the deepest part of the heart, that the message they convey is correct and there's very little to disagree.

You're welcome to say no on their next visit. They're not the sort to keep badgering you if they feel you're disinterested. If they are given a penny every time someone refused to go with them, they would be the richest group in the world.
And I'm talking from personal experience.

 

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مولانا طارق جمیل:
> آج کے انسان کی بهت بڑی گمراهی مسلمان بهی غیر مسلمان بهی، آج کا انسان اپنی زندگی اور اپنی ضرورتوں کو الله اور اس کے رسول کے بغیر پوری کرنا چاهتا هے-
> الله اور اس کے رسول کے بغیر امن نهیں آئے گا، نه حکومت چلے گی-
> هر چیز الله کی هے- جب الله کو ساتهـ لے لو گے تو هر چیز تمهارے
ساتهـ هو جائے گی

Maulana Tariq Jameel:
Today human being (Muslims & non-Muslims) are in total dark and astray. They wish to get their life essentials without Allah and Mohammad (SAWW)
There cannot be peace and a stable government without Allah and Mohammad (SAWW) .
Everything belongs to Allah. When you will go along Allah, everything will be yours.

مولانا طارق جمیل:
اليوم إنسان (المسلمين وغير المسلمين) كل في الظلام والضلال. هم يرغبون في الحصول على الضروريات حياتهم من دون الله ومحمد صلى الله عليه وسلم.
لا يمكن أن يكون هناك سلام وتشكيل حكومة مستقرة من دون الله عزوجل ومحمد صلي الله عليه وسلم.
كل شيء ينتمي إلى الله. عندما كنت سوف تتبع طريق الله عزوجل، كل شيء سيكون لك.

 

[ragingflares198]

IMO if someone is taking precious time out of their lives to go to and convince total strangers to visit mosque and offer prayers so that on the Day of Judgement, that stranger may be saved from hell, then even if we don't share their views, these people deserve respect.

 

[Deadly Shadow]

The reason people here nod and "yes, yes, yes, yes. Of course!" when they come to your door isn't because they fear saying "No". It's either out of politeness or the fact they know, in the deepest part of the heart, that the message they convey is correct and there's very little to disagree.

You're welcome to say no on their next visit. They're not the sort to keep badgering you if they feel you're disinterested. If they are given a penny every time someone refused to go with them, they would be the richest group in the world.
And I'm talking from personal experience.

I've never had a tableeghi person come to my door in all my life. I am assuming this a new trend that has gained momentum in the past few years. Therefore I do not have any personal experience with tableeghi people. I can only make conclusions from this thread how people interact with them. And I got the flawed impression that people are slightly insecure in disagreeing with these people in some cases. My reasoning was done with some posts in this thread combined with my personal experience with a huge chunk of 'religious people' who can't handle questioning.

I assumed the tableeghi would be the same, and thus I would not bother with them and just agree with what they say to make my life easier. (Plus, it is also polite)

But you brought a different perspective about them. Thanks.

 

[krazyhamad420]

NO need to lie .
Just tell them that u cant come, if they ask for reason simply say you are busy ....

Here in my colony they come after 2-3 days and I am the one always facing them .. they ask to me come I say " I cant come " Most of the time they insist and I come out of with reason like I am busy etx .. and then the ask what is more busy then religion and then I say I have some university work or some other work and at the end we are discussing university stuff or any other stuff

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IMO if someone is taking precious time out of their lives to go to and convince total strangers to visit mosque and offer prayers so that on the Day of Judgement, that stranger may be saved from hell, then even if we don't share their views, these people deserve respect.

yup .. they deserve respect and we should give them some time .... I really enjoy having chat with them .....

 

[CobraN]

Amongst the greatest obligations are amr-bil-Ma’roof (ordering for acknowledged virtues) and nahi anil munkar (forbidding from sin)

I hope this Verse of Quran will Help you all to decide!

Allah (SWT) says: “And there should be a group amongst you who invite towards good, order for acknowledged virtues, forbid from sin and these it is that are the successful ones” (Ale Imran: 104).

Another verse:

Let there be people among you, who invite to the best [in religion]; and command that which is just, and forbid that which is evil; and they shall be happy

I respect those Tablighi People and Salute them for there effort which they are doing..Other wise in today's World its difficult to find someone who will invest his own money ,Leave his Family members and love ones in order to Spread the Word about Islam.But Unfortunately we ignore them for our own sinful Reasons!

May Allah Choose us to Spread the Din of Islam!

Ameen

 

[crazypathan]

Amongst the greatest obligations are amr-bil-Ma’roof (ordering for acknowledged virtues) and nahi anil munkar (forbidding from sin)

I hope this Verse of Quran will Help you all to decide!



Another verse:




I respect those Tablighi People and Salute them for there effort which they are doing..Other wise in today's World its difficult to find someone who will invest his own money ,Leave his Family members and love ones in order to Spread the Word about Islam.But Unfortunately we ignore them for our own sinful Reasons!

May Allah Choose us to Spread the Din of Islam!

Ameen

Dr Israr Marhoom ki ik baat zehen mai agayi, "Hamari darmian aise log mojood hain jo angraizo aur yahoodio se Islamiat parh ke atay hain".

 

[CobraN]

Are you trying to Criticize on my Post? or Trying to Prove a Point here? Please Explain!

 

[DSM1]

What does this have to do with promoting religious values peacefully?

Pakistan, unfortunately, have become a materialistic society just like WEST and this path will only lead this nation to ruin in the future. Materialism ki hawas ki koi limit nahin hoti.

- People don't want to be told what is right and wrong;
- People don't want to be lectured about religious values;
- People don't want societal norms to be enforced upon them;
- People don't even like somebody inviting them to become a good practitioner;

People are becoming too much self-centered and selfish with passage of time, thanks to global promotion of "deen of materialism."

You do know that Pakistan is not just for Muslims right? We believe only our religion is right, and then try to enforce it down other people's throats. I believe if I want some religious guidance I will seek it myself, not find it knocking on my door (and since most of these molvis are illiterate, I do not trust them anyway).
The holy Quran says "let there be no compulsion in religion" and "Do not force anyone to become Muslim,.."
As far as materialism goes, throw a greencard infront of these molvis, and the majority of them will go fetch.

 

[CobraN]

You do know that Pakistan is not just for Muslims right? We believe only our religion is right, and then try to enforce it down other people's throats. I believe if I want some religious guidance I will seek it myself, not find it knocking on my door (and since most of these molvis are illiterate, I do not trust them anyway).
The holy Quran says "let there be no compulsion in religion" and "Do not force anyone to become Muslim,.."
As far as materialism goes, throw a greencard infront of these molvis, and the majority of them will go fetch.

I must say,you should atleast give some respect to those people who are trying to Spread the Word of Din! Green Card Seriously? They are Leaving there Children ,Parents ,Wifes and spending all the Money from there Pocket just to get the true Guidance and forward the same to others in Order to Score a Good place in Jannah, and you are comparing them with someone who is more intersted in Green Card? They are not Like you my Friend Who will rather Select Green Card Instead of Jannat! Lemme Share Again the Verse of Quran Again!

[QUOTE]Allah (SWT) says: “And there should be a group amongst you who invite towards good, order for acknowledged virtues, forbid from sin and these it is that are the successful ones” (Ale Imran: 104). -[/QUOTE]

I hope you can understand which Group Quran is talking About? Or do you have Someone else in your Mind ,Like Green Card Group?

 

[DSM1]

I must say,you should atleast give some respect to those people who are trying to Spread the Word of Din! Green Card Seriously? They are Leaving there Children ,Parents ,Wifes and spending all the Money from there Pocket just to get the true Guidance and forward the same to others in Order to Score a Good place in Jannah, and you are comparing them with someone who is more intersted in Green Card? They are not Like you my Friend Who will rather Select Green Card Instead of Jannat! Lemme Share Again the Verse of Quran Again!

[QUOTE]Allah (SWT) says: “And there should be a group amongst you who invite towards good, order for acknowledged virtues, forbid from sin and these it is that are the successful ones” (Ale Imran: 104). -

I hope you can understand which Group Quran is talking About? Or do you have Someone else in your Mind ,Like Green Card Group?[/QUOTE]

Please take a look at the C.Vs of our religious chiefs. They are replete with scandals, corruption, extremism and the likes.
Now you can go ahead believing whatever you want, however I will believe what I want. Until I see these mullahs protect the minority groups (or even the majority for that matter) in Pakistan, I will have no respect for them.

As our religion itself says, Huqooq ul Ibad are more important than Huqooq Allah. Remember that whatever you do, you are not capable or hurting Allah, however you are very capable of hurting humans. We need more humanity, not more beards.

 

[CobraN]

Again you are Comparining them wrong!Tell me name of the one Person from Tableeghi Jamat who are involve in Politics?

This is the Only Group in Pakistan/Worldwide who are not working for any Organization,Involved in any Politics or Have Some other Agenda in there mind and this is what i like about them! Dont Compare them with other Political Parties! They uses there own money ,own time and own will to go and Learn the Din-e-Islam!

Regarding Huquooq-ul-Ibad, On the Day of Judgement Allah will ask the Non-Muslims Why you didnt Practice my DIN and then they will reply that no one told us about it and then Allah will ask Us (So Called Muslims) ,Why Didnt you give my Message to them regarding Islam...And at that time will you justify that, i was to Busy in Blaming the Peoples and All these Bull shit!

I am not Disagreeing with you,There are certain Groups who Shows that they are doing so Much for Islam But in Actual they are just working for there own Benefits using the Name of Islam!

I also Agree that there are some People in Tableeghi Jamat ,Who force you to Pray and ask you to go for 3 Days, 40 Days Etc..But arent they doing this for you?
What Benefit will they get if you leave for 3 Days and Learn somethign new about islam!There Propoganda is if by giving Dawat if someone start walking on the right Path then it will be enough for them to secure a Good place in Heaven..Thats All. And i think this is What All the Messengers and Sahabas Did.

Again some peoples way of Delivering the Message might be Wrong or very Harsh , But the Practice is Right! You should not Follow the People! Follow the Practice!