[Aurora] ROUNDTABLE - Why has 360 succeed in Pakistan while PS3 failed?

[Shyber]

also, WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT METAL GEAR IN A PAKISTANI ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION !!

it's all your fault shyber.

Nah, I just couldn't stand it being compared to something like LO. Specially by you!

 

[Radical]

& now we gonna talk about LO?? :lol:

 

[SolitarySoldier]

No please! There's a lot of other stuff to be compared with MGS4 but LO isn't the one out of them.

 

[Nomad]

Rising will at least sell more copies than MGS4, that much is certain, konami loves money that's why the game is coming to the 360 too, more sales guaranteed :8

Nothing is guaranteed. It might, but nothing is written in stone yet.

MGS4 sold more copies on PS3 than MGS3 did on PS2. And PS2 had a much larger userbase than PS3 and 360 users combined. It's a niche product which only fans can appreciate.

 

[Chandoo]

MGS3 didn't do so well because it launched in the same time frame as games like GTA San Andreas, Halo 2, Half Life 2 etc. Where as MGS4 had a completely empty time slot with no real competition to deal with.

It's a niche product which only fans can appreciate.

4 million units sold on a system as fledgling for sales as the PS3 is not a niche item.

 

[Shyber]

MGS3 didn't do so well because it launched in the same time frame as games like GTA San Andreas, Halo 2, Half Life 2 etc. Where as MGS4 had a completely empty time slot with no real competition to deal with.
4 million units sold on a system as fledgling for sales as the PS3 is not a niche item.

Just one month after GTA4, no?

 

[Radical]

Oh yeah the 'two behemoths' almost released side by side

 

[Chandoo]

one month is still one month of clear sales.

for comparison's sake halo 2, hl2 and MGS3 were all released in November 2004, and San Andreas was released in the last week of October 2004, essentially November 2004.

and GTA 4 was April, MGS4 was June, that's two months actually.

 

[SolitarySoldier]

and GTA 4 was April, MGS4 was June, that's two months actually.

1.5 months at the most and GTA games keep selling great for continuous months.

GTA IV WAS a sales threat to MGS4 and everyone knows MGS4>GTA IV :8

 

[Chandoo]

GTA IV WAS a sales threat to MGS4 and everyone knows MGS4>GTA IV

but then again, GTA IV did manage to sell a lot more than MGS4, and is reviewed higher as well :8

 

[Kane]

but then again, GTA IV did manage to sell a lot more than MGS4, and is reviewed higher as well :8

Mgs 4 is a ps3 exclusive but gta 4 is on 3 major platform u cant even understand u noob:baby:!

 

[Chandoo]

that's exactly the point isn't it kane.

MGS Rising is coming on three platforms, and it will sell more than MGS4 just because of that.

you just pwnt your own ass kane, hahahhaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

kane = :baby:

 

[SolitarySoldier]

LOL, you both guys are awesome. Thanks for fun.

@Chanderson, MGS4 sold more than GTA IV on PS3 says Wiki and as for metascores, GTA IV is leading cuz of it's hype <_<. Ask those who had played both games (like me), MGS4> GTA IV. Note: That doesn't means GTA IV is bad. It's one of my fav's :8

 

[Chandoo]

@baadshah, but here within lies the beauty of the concept of the game going multiplatform doesn't it ? more platforms means more sales, it's better for the future of the metal gear franchise as well :8

why don't you guys think of the franchise as a whole and stop the single game fanboyism, don't you want the metal gear series to continue ? :8

 

[SolitarySoldier]

@baadshah, but here within lies the beauty of the concept of the game going multiplatform doesn't it ? more platforms means more sales, it's better for the future of the metal gear franchise as well :8

why don't you guys think of the franchise as a whole and stop the single game fanboyism, don't you want the metal gear series to continue ? :8

Why would i have any problems with MGS going multi, i would like it every year. :8 But we were talking only MGS4 and GTA IV. Ok let's do Rising now.

Brotha! I don't even mind MGS going on Wii or even DS. I just want MGS and everyone knows Rising is gonna be a great game and this time it may achieve more sales, very much possible. So what's bad? I don't have any issue. Let's do a MGS4 port on 360, i won't mind. I was just saying that MGS4 is better than GTA IV and that's me, other's have thier own choices.

BTW, Raiden was my fav. character in MGS4 after Old Sakne. :8

 

[Chandoo]

Let's not forget about MGS Peace walker for the PSP, Hideo Kojima's personal project and being made by the MGS4 team itself.

That game is going to be a full MGS game as well, the proper sequel to MGS3 and the prequel to the original Metal Gear, starring Big Boss (who's a lot cooler than old snake)

only the awesome guys who own PSP's will get to play that one. We're so awesome aren't we ? :8

 

[SolitarySoldier]

Let's not forget about MGS Peace walker for the PSP, Hideo Kojima's personal project and being made by the MGS4 team itself.

That game is going to be a full MGS game as well, the proper sequel to MGS3 and the prequel to the original Metal Gear, starring Big Boss (who's a lot cooler than old snake)

only the awesome guys who own PSP's will get to play that one. We're so awesome aren't we ? :8

Oh yeah, teh Peace Walker I really want to see MGS4 team on PSP. Though Peace Walker is a PSP game but I'm equally interested in it as i am in Rising. I'm so lucky i can play 2 more MGS's after the awesome MGS4

PSP owner's are so gifted lately and I'm so happy to get one. Peace Walker for PSP's only. :8

 

[Shyber]

one month is still one month of clear sales.

for comparison's sake halo 2, hl2 and MGS3 were all released in November 2004, and San Andreas was released in the last week of October 2004, essentially November 2004.

Only San Andreas was on the PS2 amongst these. Situation is quite comparable and GTA4 was a much bigger title than SA at that time. Also, you're ignoring the PS3's weak userbase a little too easily.

But useless thing to talk about. I'm sure they got professionals for this analysis and estimates and the reason Rising is going multiplat is because they're targeting sales. Thinking that Rising wouldn't outsell MGS4 would be wrong.

Am sure whoever got MGS4 will definitely get Rising on the PS3 and then the huge userbase of 360 will kick in and make sure they make lotsa $ on it. I just hope the game lives up to the MGS name it's carrying. Topping MGS4 can get pretty difficult for Rising but that's hard to comment on since we know nothing about it yet. MGS4 had 10 years of making behind it and Snake as the main character. Am not saying Raiden ain't cool but an MGS without Snake/BB is like a PG without Chandoo.

 

[Radical]

Dudes don't forget how Kojima reacted when that m/s guy said 'Solid Snake' , Rising is another Metal Gear sure but it ain't Metal Gear Solid & i don't think there will be another Metal Gear Solid :crying:

 

[Shyber]

I'm sure Kojima wouldn't let a game with "MGS" in its name get wasted. But then again, we've also seen Portable Ops :|