Moral policing is truly on another level here. What else can be expected from Sony poniesThis is the thought process and level of intelligence we can expect from those suddenly in a criticizing mode
Such smart individuals
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Nothing personal, it's just referring to the inconsistency of people criticizing TLoU here. It's ironic how people blatantly flashing their fanboyism are accusing others of it.Moral policing is truly on another level here. What else can be expected from Sony ponies
We have Cyberpunk and TLoU II trailer at E3, both of them universally liked by critics and fans (and TLoU II showed gameplay as well). Yet in the first case, someone is constantly posting positive reactions to the game from various sources while criticising TLoU II and ND for literally NO reason based on personal dislike as if Cyberpunk can only be good if TLoU is bad.
You will see people attack others by calling them fanboys as if ND and Sony dont have any fanboys. As if they are the only ones looking at ND games with a rational thought process.Nothing personal, it's just referring to the inconsistency of people criticizing TLoU here. It's ironic how people blatantly flashing their fanboyism are accusing others of it.
But thats what happening there too. You see criticism for Cyberpunk and their previous games there but praising TLoU 1 and 2 here. The fact that you are okay with one thing and not the other does say something too, no?We have Cyberpunk and TLoU II trailer at E3, both of them universally liked by critics and fans (and TLoU II showed gameplay as well). Yet in the first case, someone is constantly posting positive reactions to the game from various sources while criticising TLoU II and ND for literally NO reason based on personal dislike as if Cyberpunk can only be good if TLoU is bad.
This reads like ramblings of an old angry man journey
i.eThe first statement is based on nothing but two trailers, which have been received quite positively overall.
The second statement is again off the chart exaggeration, and also completely untrue. i.e UC 2 ended up at 96 meta, then putting games rating UC3 92, UC 4 93, TLOU 95..if this is what you call
then I might be blind.
Since last statement has been proven factually to be untrue, thus making this hypothesis untrue in case of ND as a consequence
. If they were relying on just technology, they wouldnt have been so positively received.
Also the original point was about polarizing - which I dont think ND is
This ...a logical mind among stSuddenly some people have newfound criticism for TLoU after they were offended by TLoU II trailer.
TLoU is a universally acclaimed masterpiece whether you like it or not, just like The Witcher 3 is or some other games are. Talking about it like it's some 6 or 7-rated-game is fine as your subjective opinion but it doesn't represent the critic and user consensus and it shouldn't be presented as something objective. It's a given that masterpieces have their flaws and one can make a long list of them with respect to The Witcher 3 gameplay, for instance, but it doesn't change the status of the game as a masterpiece among critics and fans alike.
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I am surprised to see, perhaps one of the most celebrated studio of past decade being discussed like this.
That's not true of course. No one said being a fanboy is a problem or that criticism is a problem. Accusations (about harassment) are being thrown here to somehow denigrate ND and TLoU II. TLoU is receiving the same treatment, all surprisingly after the new trailer that offended some people. Those who didn't like TLoU now dislike it more it seems because they didn't like something in the trailer? This is not the criticism of the game; that's just using shallow means to attack a game when you don't have solid criticism.You will see people attack others by calling them fanboys as if ND and Sony dont have any fanboys. As if they are the only ones looking at ND games with a rational thought process.
But thats what happening there too. You see criticism for Cyberpunk and their previous games there but praising TLoU 1 and 2 here. The fact that you are okay with one thing and not the other does say something too, no?
And remember all this is being presented as something objective about the game. I'm a Witcher and TLoU fan and I don't care if someone tells me they abhor these games. That's their personal taste and it's okay. But giving the impression that TLoU II is just another random game that ND is using to redeem itself for God knows what crimes they have committed sounds like misplaced fanboyish envy. As for Cyberpunk, the criticism is based on how the game looks (references to GTA etc.) and it is based on the trailer to not see the gameplay at E3). Some people are holding their horses simply because they haven't seen the gameplay and the game does not have a history of its own, unlike TLoU II, to dispell all speculation. Would it make sense to say that CDPR is trying to redeem itself for making substandard games in the past simply because someone didn't like The Witcher 3?
That's confusing personal taste with the general reception of the developer and their games.
NOOO...Joel needs to be a playable character..I think he was also mentioned in the trailer as "your old man..blah blah"Exactly, I completely agree. The gameplay was so good in the first that I wouldn't mind if it stayed the same for the second part.
Naughty Dog: Ellie is the Only Playable Character in The Last of Us Part II - Playstation 4
They said this about the first part too (Joel being the only playable character) but I will miss Joel.
This was an actual case that happened at ND.
Im not offended by anything in that trailer really. But to act like its a normal occurrence is just blinding yourself of the point here. Nathan and elena relationship was a central theme in UC4 story. Iirc, the in game kiss wasnt showed on stage infront of the biggest audience. But even if it was, would it really have the same impact on the audience as it does here? Obviously not. Even the first remark coming from Chandoo on the trailer was about that kiss. Why? What was so out of the ordinary about it esp since we already know EllieÂ’s sexual orientation from The Left Behind DLC? ND wants people to talk to about it. And for some reason fanboys here wana shrug it off because anyone who talks about it is obviously homophobic.
Actually some people arenÂ’t impressed by the details coming from the demo either. General reception of the developer and their games is precisely why practically every press impression coming out is exceptional from the people who have actually seen the demo. Nothing wrong if you wana hold out to see the demo yourself, but how much do you wana bet the criticism wonÂ’t end there?As for Cyberpunk, the criticism is based on how the game looks (references to GTA etc.) and it is based on the trailer to not see the gameplay at E3). Some people are holding their horses simply because they haven't seen the gameplay and the game does not have a history of its own, unlike TLoU II, to dispell all speculation. Would it make sense to say that CDPR is trying to redeem itself for making substandard games in the past simply because someone didn't like The Witcher 3?
So someone cannot level criticism at TLoU 2 based on their personal dislikes regarding TLoU 1? This does not make any sense to me.
The whole Kiss scene was just forced and stupid. Gameplay was all choreographed. Not impressed at all. Too similar to the first part. Then again ND is not known for innovation.
My thoughts exactly! What was the purpose of wasting precious secs on that logically useless detail? It's almost like ND really need people to talk abt this game even if how stupid/ awkward that particular scene was.
The gameplay looks stale and considering how average it was in the first game, its disappointing they don't have anything new to offer.
Still our resident fanboys and LGBT advocates will take it upon themselves to defend it till the last breath [emoji38]
I was never interested in this game but that stupid kiss forced me to post my thoughts in this thread. Never knew I would be dragged into some legendary fanboy meltdowns lol
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Lol, bass kar do bhaiBut thats what happening there too. You see criticism for Cyberpunk and their previous games there but praising TLoU 1 and 2 here. The fact that you are okay with one thing and not the other does say something too, no?
Find a single post in the Cyberpunk thread which is this caliber
Let me guess, these "Some people" include yourself, Janarioo, Journey's end and any other random poster who agrees with you
Cyberpunk ki thread mai koi ghaas nahi daal raha it doesn't mean ye thread kharaab karni hai aa ke
oh bhae theek se parh to le baat kya ho rahiLet me guess, these "Some people" include yourself, Janarioo, Journey's end and any other random poster who agrees with you
Bhai trailer to fantastic hai baqaul aapke, ab yahan ghaas daalne ki himmat nahi to wo aur baat haiCyberpunk ki thread mai koi ghaas nahi daal raha it doesn't mean ye thread kharaab karni hai aa ke
Bhai ghussa aur frustration kaun kahaa nikaal raha hai wo to obvious haioh bhae theek se parh to le baat kya ho rahi
Bhai trailer to fantastic hai baqaul aapke, ab yahan ghaas daalne ki himmat nahi to wo aur baat hai
The Last of Us 2 trailer really brought out dil ki bhadaas from people
youtube comments and some people here are prime examples. Ek tarf sexists ko aag lagi hui hai, ek taraf Crystal Dynamics ko aag lagi hui hai. ND really shook the industry and E3 up with the demo
Waqaii obvious hai...trailer dekh ke apni tharak bahar aye to sahi hai. Koi “lesbo” kahe to fanboys trigger ho jaate hain. behtareen :tv:
Chalo bhae, fap in peace now lol
Chalo bhae, fap in peace now lol
Bhai ap comment jo bhi karna hai karlo, topic history sab k liye open hai (unless ap cleverly jaa ke apni posts edit kardo
) kaun frustrated hai aur kaun upset hai sab ko dikh raa hai :stereo:
Chalo bhai, stay frustrated in peace now lol
Not from the Cyberpunk thread, but here's a contenderFind a single post in the Cyberpunk thread which is this caliber
Not from the Cyberpunk thread, but here's a contender
Lo bhai ye Ceedee Peedee doosro ko sony pony keh rahe hain
That case is irrelevant to the game, so the point stands. It was needlessly brought up to attack the game.
Ah, the kiss again. It was a normal occurrence except that it was not heterosexual. Those who made it a problem or were unusually effected (offended) by it can't hold ND responsible for not conforming to their prejudices. The people talking about it are usually the ones who are offended and their shitfest is clearly noticeable on various websites (Gamespot actually had to close the comments on TLoU II trailer). What was so extraordinary about it that gamers were so easily offended given that every other game is based on conventional romance and relationships? [emoji6] Maybe ND wants to get rid of discriminatory people from it's fan base? Speculation, just like your claim that they are seeking attention and want people to talk about it. Even if they want that, nobody said it can't be talked about. I'm talking about it the most here probably. It's just that throwing random words like lesbo, political brainwashing, LGBT agenda, etc., is not the level of discourse I'm interested in. In the absence of good arguments and the fact that some people are dismissing the game or that scene due to personal offence, i think it's more than fair to suspect homophobic tendencies (not referring to you). Anyway, that was the most realistic kiss I've ever seen in games, in terms of animations, expressions, and build up. [emoji14] This is why I was interested in the kiss honestly and I think this is what actually is relevant to the game.
If some people aren't impressed by TLoU II, well, good for them. I'm sure you've come across similar views on Cyberpunk here and elsewhere. I'm happy that the critics are liking Cyberpunk and I want to see it myself not out of suspicion but excitement. Criticism will never end but then why should it? All I'm saying is that let's keep the criticism constructive and relevant to the game. Finally, you can totally criticise TLoU (II) based on your personal taste. This is what I contrasted with presenting your opinion as a fact. You can see above how people think ND is going down with its game, an assertion that flies in the face of evidence.
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