Playstation The PS4 PRO Thread ! Let the Super-Charged PS4 Pro Lead The Way

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Well if you want an afforable device just for gaming and not to miss out on Sony's first part stuff .. the answer is clear :p
Yeah but I'd like to hear it from other people too, who're expert on computers, builds and prices. And also passionate about it. I'm sorry Chandoo, I won't heed your advice when it comes to computers. Nothing personal. :)
 

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get a shitty base ps4 for exclusives

rest keyboard n mouse FTW!!!!!! THOSE LUSH GFX ON MY PC ARE JUST <3 ... People WHO TALK ABT IT HAVE NEVER SEEN 120HZ IPS DISPLAY with QHD DISPLAY WITH G-SYNC at 32INCHS its a DREAMMMMM .

as far as first party for ps4 is concenred

3 Years has passed and games that came which are actually worth a console are:

UNCHARTED
BLOODBORNE

& THATS IT FUTURE RELEASES WE ARENT TALKING ABT

INFAMOUS SECOND SON SUCKED ITS A PROTOYPE CLONE WID A SHITTY STORY
RACHET N CLANK I RATHER PLAY OWL BOY
 

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get a shitty base ps4 for exclusives

rest keyboard n mouse FTW!!!!!! THOSE LUSH GFX ON MY PC ARE JUST <3 ... People WHO TALK ABT IT HAVE NEVER SEEN 120HZ IPS DISPLAY with QHD DISPLAY WITH G-SYNC at 32INCHS its a DREAMMMMM .

as far as first party for ps4 is concenred

3 Years has passed and games that came which are actually worth a console are:

UNCHARTED
BLOODBORNE

& THATS IT FUTURE RELEASES WE ARENT TALKING ABT

INFAMOUS SECOND SON SUCKED ITS A PROTOYPE CLONE WID A SHITTY STORY
RACHET N CLANK I RATHER PLAY OWL BOY
"I'd rather play"

Right. Of course you would. But we're talking about the value for money or price for performance. I mean I spent $900 Aussie (roughly $660 US) which gets me a basic PS4 and 40" 1080p display (200Hz and a fantastic smooth/clear motion engine) emulating the 60FPS "feel". In my case, I'd rather not pay.

Point of the argument is, PS4 for $300 and Pro for $400 are fantastic deals for they offer. The question for experts is, can we build a PC for a similar price which performs comparably?
 

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"I'd rather play"

Right. Of course you would. But we're talking about the value for money or price for performance. I mean I spent $900 Aussie (roughly $660 US) which gets me a basic PS4 and 40" 1080p display (200Hz and a fantastic smooth/clear motion engine) emulating the 60FPS "feel". In my case, I'd rather not pay.

Point of the argument is, PS4 for $300 and Pro for $400 are fantastic deals for they offer. The question for experts is, can we build a PC for a similar price which performs comparably?

in defense you guys are comparing very very very wrong things " CONSOLE is only made for gaming" PC isnt made only for gaming it is beyond that, and people who use it that way know it.

ofcorse if u dont own a pc and u just want to play games console will be first priority but people who hate gamepads like my big brother they cant stand console they want keyboard n mouse
in tht regard its matter of preference

but


PC ISNT JUST FOR GAMING is somthing u should keep in mind before even comparing the two.
 

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get a shitty base ps4 for exclusives

rest keyboard n mouse FTW!!!!!! THOSE LUSH GFX ON MY PC ARE JUST <3 ... People WHO TALK ABT IT HAVE NEVER SEEN 120HZ IPS DISPLAY with QHD DISPLAY WITH G-SYNC at 32INCHS its a DREAMMMMM .
Once you buy that 120HZ IPS DISPLAY with QHD DISPLAY WITH G-SYNC at 32 INCHS, you're really getting rid of the "PC isn't just for gaming" argument. Why else would you need a display with that kind of resolution? To view Facebook videos in HD? If you're talking about what PC has over consoles in terms of gaming, then keep the argument focused on gaming, not on stuff you can use any PC for. Whether you like PlayStation or not, the PS4 Pro comes very close to an amazing resolution at almost half the price too.

as far as first party for ps4 is concenred

3 Years has passed and games that came which are actually worth a console are:

UNCHARTED
BLOODBORNE

& THATS IT FUTURE RELEASES WE ARENT TALKING ABT

INFAMOUS SECOND SON SUCKED ITS A PROTOYPE CLONE WID A SHITTY STORY
RACHET N CLANK I RATHER PLAY OWL BOY
A Prototype clone? You say that like Prototype has performed better than inFamous, which it really hasn't. inFamous 1 is better than Prototype 1, inFamous 2 is MILES ahead of Prototype 2 and while inFamous is popular enough to get a completely new game on PS4, all Prototype managed to get on new consoles is a terrible remaster (can I even call it that?). Sure, you like Prototype better than inFamous, fine, but try not to sound so obnoxious when you're telling us that.
 

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Once you buy that 120HZ IPS DISPLAY with QHD DISPLAY WITH G-SYNC at 32 INCHS, you're really getting rid of the "PC isn't just for gaming" argument. Why else would you need a display with that kind of resolution? To view Facebook videos in HD? If you're talking about what PC has over consoles in terms of gaming, then keep the argument focused on gaming, not on stuff you can use any PC for. Whether you like PlayStation or not, the PS4 Pro comes very close to an amazing resolution at almost half the price too.



A Prototype clone? You say that like Prototype has performed better than inFamous, which it really hasn't. inFamous 1 is better than Prototype 1, inFamous 2 is MILES ahead of Prototype 2 and while inFamous is popular enough to get a completely new game on PS4, all Prototype managed to get on new consoles is a terrible remaster (can I even call it that?). Sure, you like Prototype better than inFamous, fine, but try not to sound so obnoxious when you're telling us that.

any game tht get exclusive tag is bound to become a hit just for the fk of it.

infamous 2 was great i really liked tht second son is gay as shit.

prototype and infamous are really clones dude just use ur head.
 

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Y'all need to make a separate topic for this PC discussion :p

This is a PS4 Pro topic. Speaking of which, there's a Tales of Berseria demo up on PSN, will download and check if it has any Pro upgrades.

Yeah but I'd like to hear it from other people too, who're expert on computers, builds and prices. And also passionate about it. I'm sorry Chandoo, I won't heed your advice when it comes to computers. Nothing personal.


None taken :p

I get all my computer needs taken care of by my handy i5 laptop. But if you wanna play games like Horizon, Persona 5 etc there's no PC build that will let you play it :p
 
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Don't be so dismissive :p They're not AAA games, but just one AAA covers the price of the purchase :p like i said, this gives all owners a universal discount on all purchases, you won't have to wait for the next Steam sale either :p
Point is, even if you enjoy them from time to time, anyone with a PC can get majority of those titles for free anyways. They're not demanding to run even.

I could post comments from first party developers but I doubt those will be met with any better remarks :p
First party devs wouldn't have developed on PC to have a better clue either. A respectable multiplatform developer is who you should quote. ARK isn't one of them remotely.

Not fussed over UHD so much. Anything that gives at least equal details as a PS4 at 1080p and 30FPS (or 60FPS in case it runs so on the PS4) would do for me. Specific titles? BF1, COD, Watch Dogs 2, Forza Horizon 3 (I know I know, Xbox One equivalent in this case lol), Overwatch, TitanFall 2, Deus Ex, etc.
Point of the argument is, PS4 for $300 and Pro for $400 are fantastic deals for they offer. The question for experts is, can we build a PC for a similar price which performs comparably?
Plus the $60 YEARLY subscription for online play.

This build will outperform PS4 with significant gains in most games. Might be on par or slightly lower in BF1, I can't find benchmarks for equivalent hardware at Medium settings (which is what the PS4 runs it at).



$350

If you already have an old case and PSU, you can build this for <$300 (the GPU does not require dedicated power input).
 
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In case of ps4 vs pc Pc is clear winner no point of debate as even on 1080p games are way very sharp and there is no comparison for feel of 60 fps which is just non existent in consoles

THIS GEN Pc is the winner in offline play

online play is a different story
lastly the most anticipated FFXV has frame pacing issues with ps4 and pro(the main point of console is optimized gaming)
Digital foundry has recommended xbox one version over ps4 in this regard
 

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in defense you guys are comparing very very very wrong things " CONSOLE is only made for gaming" PC isnt made only for gaming it is beyond that, and people who use it that way know it.

ofcorse if u dont own a pc and u just want to play games console will be first priority but people who hate gamepads like my big brother they cant stand console they want keyboard n mouse
in tht regard its matter of preference

but


PC ISNT JUST FOR GAMING is somthing u should keep in mind before even comparing the two.
Yes, of course. But we are comparing just the gaming capabilities. I don't have a desktop PC at home (anymore). Cellphones/Android TV/Tablets for the general use and my office laptop for dev needs. But for argument's sake, we are comparing just the gaming aspects of it.


Y'all need to make a separate topic for this PC discussion :p

None taken :p

I get all my computer needs taken care of by my handy i5 laptop. But if you wanna play games like Horizon, Persona 5 etc there's no PC build that will let you play it :p
Of course not, but that's a debate for console's exclusives, not affordability.

In case of ps4 vs pc Pc is clear winner no point of debate as even on 1080p games are way very sharp and there is no comparison for feel of 60 fps which is just non existent in consoles

THIS GEN Pc is the winner in offline play

online play is a different story
lastly the most anticipated FFXV has frame pacing issues with ps4 and pro(the main point of console is optimized gaming)
Digital foundry has recommended xbox one version over ps4 in this regard
Well, some people value games to a level where skipping on exclusives is not an option. A decent display can emulate the 60FPS feel (I know real 60FPS and smooth motion are not comparable, but that's the best solution if you want that feel on consoles). Regarding FFXV, having played both versions on the kiosks, I prefer the sharpness the PS4 version offers. Smooth motion hides the frame pacing (which is again, occasional) but nothing can hide the immense blurriness of 360 version. Given the landscape of FFXV's world, it's all about distant vistas and beautiful horizons. And yes, I want this game to come out on the PC (which might happen).

Plus the $60 YEARLY subscription for online play.

This build will outperform PS4 with significant gains in most games. Might be on par or slightly lower in BF1, I can't find benchmarks for equivalent hardware at Medium settings (which is what the PS4 runs it at).

$350

If you already have an old case and PSU, you can build this for <$300 (the GPU does not require dedicated power input).
True about the $60 annual charges, but that's less than the cost of electricity I'd pay to run a rig (at least here lol). Holds for PS4 also so I give you that.
I've been so out of touch but the G4400 looks fantastic. What do you know then, the PC is catching up in terms of affordability.

I'll PM you so that I can work out a proper build based on what's available. Looks like I might play Forza Horizon 3 after all, without an Xbox lol.
 

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Hey, if it floats your boat, get an expensive gaming PC, lord knows I would too if I wasn't already satisfied with the Pro.

Not to forget, you're not gonna be playing this or many other things in UHD on a PC anyway :p

 

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Hey, if it floats your boat, get an expensive gaming PC, lord knows I would too if I wasn't already satisfied with the Pro.

Not to forget, you're not gonna be playing this or many other things in UHD on a PC anyway :p

Holy crap that melts my face. Can't imagine this baby in HDR.

BTW, is that Prophet? Is it some weird continuation of Crysis? LOL.
 

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The good thing about the trailer is that you can tell it's in-engine by the minor popin in the distance shots :p

This should be a great tech showcase for Death Stranding too, same engine and all.



 
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The good thing about the trailer is that you can tell it's in-engine by the minor popin in the distance shots :p

This should be a great tech showcase for Death Stranding too, same engine and all.



Never thought I'd see the day when Chandoo applauds GG.
 

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Hey, if it floats your boat, get an expensive gaming PC, lord knows I would too if I wasn't already satisfied with the Pro.

Not to forget, you're not gonna be playing this or many other things in UHD on a PC anyway :p

People are fine keeping two machines for gaming Chandoo, and your Pro isn't gonna run all "Horizon" games :p
 

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Skipping exclusives is not an option they are must have for every game But in case of non exclusives PC is way better But as far it goes to 60 fps emulation within hdtv it is very laggy or should i say super Laggy i might be wrong that new displays dont have such lag

But FFXV not optimized well even with delays no point Consoles are known for their optimizations and tension free gaming
 

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Never thought I'd see the day when Chandoo applauds GG.
Oh, I'm applauding just the game. I've had the misfortune of playing through KZ Shadow Fall, I've left my impressions earlier in this topic :p was definitely not 'impressed' with that game.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kojima or KojiPro have had some kind of influence in the cinematic look of this game.

People are fine keeping two machines for gaming Chandoo, and your Pro isn't gonna run all "Horizon" games :p
Only the one's that matter :p
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if Kojima or KojiPro have had some kind of influence in the cinematic look of this game.
Iirc one of the cinematic directors at CDPR had a temporary contract with GG to work on Horizon.

Only the one's that matter :p
Given your praise for the past games in the franchise, its a shame your Pro can't run the one which universally matters the most now :p
 
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Iirc one of the cinematic directors at CDPR had a temporary contract with GG to work on Horizon.
The guy honed his skills at Bethesda, which makes sense :p

Ex-Bethesda and CD Projekt Red developers helped build Horizon's open world | GamesRadar+

Given your praise for the past games in the franchise, its a shame your Pro can't run the one which universally matters the most now :p
FH 1 is still the best Horizon as far as the reception goes, but that's old news, this is the new Horizon hotness :p.

Also hoping GT Sport will fill in that void of the PS4 needing a good car-game. Driveclub has supposedly been patched a few dozen times but still not up to spending anything on it, unless it goes $9.99 or less.


On topic :p

Both World of Final Fantasy and Assassins: Syndicate have been Pro patched now, AC goes to 2160p checker boarding and no one's done a pixel count on what World of FF goes to now. Any interest in World of FF [MENTION=1054]Shyber[/MENTION] ?
 
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World design =/= cinematic direction

Lead Cinematic director on Horizon, never worked for any dev other than CDPR.


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FH 1 is still the best Horizon as far as the reception goes,




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