Which University should I choose?

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Iqra University Karachi (BS CS)

Best Faculty of Core Courses (Assembly programming , Programming, Machine language , web programming language and Visual Programming language.

Friendly Environment. State-of-the-arts lab with core-i5 systems and core i3 systems in every class with multimedia projectors.

Online Lectures. So you can study anywhere you want.

Ranked 6th in General Category in HEC 2015 Ranking in Pakistan. Ranked No.1 in Sindh and been ranked in top category continously.
which karachi campus should one join ?
 

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NUST is pure shit, just came here to say this, it's just the students here are very talented hence the name remains, otherwise it is an utter crap place to be.
 

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NUST is pure shit, just came here to say this, it's just the students here are very talented hence the name remains, otherwise it is an utter crap place to be.
Are you speaking from experience? or did you just heard it from someone?
Anyway, so in your opinion all campuses of NUST are crap? or is there a specific one that is?
 

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Are you speaking from experience? or did you just heard it from someone?
Anyway, so in your opinion all campuses of NUST are crap? or is there a specific one that is?
Yeah bro, experience, I am studying Computer Engineering NUST EME and I have not a slight doubt saying that it is not near as good as it should be, I know it is very hard to understand from outside due to its good overall rep, believe you me, in 2 years I have barely seen 2-3 teachers that are hardly upto the standard, rest of them are just there "not to teach", once you are a part of the system only then you will come to know what it is and what it's not. In my case, it is not just me, it is nearly 30 out of 43 students who share the same thought. It is just these talented and hard working students here that are holding up its name of what it remains. And I bet you, send these same students to FAST or comsats, after 4 years every one of them would become a proper weapon. (I am saying this because I guess everyone here know that every year NUST takes the cream form all over Pak, it is, on paper, one of the highest merited uni in Pak and I find no reason for it being one of the highest merited).
 

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Yeah bro, experience, I am studying Computer Engineering NUST EME and I have not a slight doubt saying that it is not near as good as it should be, I know it is very hard to understand from outside due to its good overall rep, believe you me, in 2 years I have barely seen 2-3 teachers that are hardly upto the standard, rest of them are just there "not to teach", once you are a part of the system only then you will come to know what it is and what it's not. In my case, it is not just me, it is nearly 30 out of 43 students who share the same thought. It is just these talented and hard working students here that are holding up its name of what it remains. And I bet you, send these same students to FAST or comsats, after 4 years every one of them would become a proper weapon. (I am saying this because I guess everyone here know that every year NUST takes the cream form all over Pak, it is, on paper, one of the highest merited uni in Pak and I find no reason for it being one of the highest merited).

hmmm ahan...So your experience caters for EME campus as a whole. I would still be inclined to believe that the H-12 campus is much better as compared to any other campus of NUST. What about it? :p

Anyways

Top Universities for Bachelors in Computer Sciences, IT (Not In any particular Order)


  • NUST (SEECS, H12 CAMPUS), Islamabad/Rawalpindi
    • Faculty: Well most of the professors of CS department are foreign phds and atleast on surface, their resumes look awesome.. It is pretty safe to assume that they are good instructors aswell (most of them atleast).
    • University Environment: a. Urban campus b. Loads of events and opportunities (Societies, Other misc. events, talks conferences) c. The interaction of students outside the class d. Competition (students are hardworking there I'd safely say) and many other bits which makes an environment "progressive and productive" (with respect to Pakistan's standards:p)
    • Brand-Name/Value of University, networking opportunities

  • FAST, Lahore or Islamabad
    • Faculty: Well most of their old faculty members have left the university, However they have left a solid base of junior faculty aswell (FAST Alumni), and as my friends tell me, the teaching method is awesome (atleast in case of CS)
    • Alumni: Alumni kee wajh se I guess FAST has earned the brand name only a few universities have earned in pakistan so far; the strong alumni network adds "considerable" value to the grads.
    • Rigor: I guess ye to sbko pta hee hoga k FAST ka freshman year "acha bhalaaa" rigorous hai, aur examinations k standards boht high hain; extrapolate this to 4 years of a students, and you get a highly-skilled CS major.

  • LUMS, Lahore
    • Faculty: LUMS also has a pretty strong faculty aswell with most of the professors are foreign PHDs (Sir Arif Zaman, the pak. mathematician, teaches at LUMS :p)
    • Environment: Well I don't think I have to emphasize this aspect of LUMS anymore, there are "loads and loads" of opportunities; I can safely say that with respect to the University environment,grooming, personality development, LUMS gets the best of every Pakistani university; I can explain this in detail if someone wants any examples from my side :)P)
    • Alumni: CS department itself has a strong Alumni network, with grads ranging from working at big software companies to studying at Universities in USA/Europe (mostly on scholarship)...

  • Tie b/w GIKI, TOPI,Swabi and Comsats (Islamabad Campus)
    Well I will describe here reasons for GIKI only
    • Faculty: as described in all three examples.
    • Alumni: Well this little gem has an extremely strong alumni base spread over the world (kbhi search krna GIKI alumni *insert european country name* chapter :p)
    • Rigor: Well the studies are extremely rigorous like FAST...



Top Universities for Masters in Computer Sciences, IT

Well I guess overall Pakistan's post-grad scene is strong however on the research side, its extremely worse and effects all univesities almost equally...I'd say FAST, NUST and LUMS for the reasons described above and For my personal opinion that these universities are doing atleast some sort of productive research

Top Universities for Bachelors in Engineering

NUST (H12) for the reasons cited above
GIKI: For the reasons Cited Above
PIEAS: 1. Experience Faculty 2. Rigorous studies 3. Brand Name/Value in industries.
And No. 4th is a Tie Between UET Lahore/ NED :p
5th. (Honory mention): FAST (engineering dept.)/ Air University / IST (Its aerospace is top notch, however other dept. are not so top notch) And Comsats (Isb Campus)

Top Universities for Masters in Engineering

Same as masters in computer science except replace LUMS with PIEAS...Awesome university for a post grad masters in engineering; Solid research work and good faculty


P.S: to write logical, factual and quantifiable reasons for such a large pool was almost impossible for me, moreoever facts can be mistaken for example the fact that University ABC has less foreign phds and EDF has more does not add anything to the discussion. A university is a combination of many discrete, small parts and the discussion of each of it is necessary; thus a holistic view is written above and obviously this view passes 1. common knowledge test 2. personal experience test ;P
 

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Top Universities for Bachelors in Computer Sciences, IT.

LUMS
- Great opportunities to do some research with faculty. Many students get published in top conferences by 3rd year.
- Easier to get admission in USA for further studies.
- Some courses are on latest stuff. e.g. their software engineering course was based on CS169 by UC Berkeley with ROR and agile development methodology.

FAST
- Great if you want to go in the industry. It has a good name.
- Dont know much else about it, but talked to a former FAST professor and found out that their syllabus is in more depth and they have a very rigorous curriculum.
 

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NUST is pure shit, just came here to say this, it's just the students here are very talented hence the name remains, otherwise it is an utter crap place to be.
From a living point of view, yes life can very boring there, but in terms of academics it's about the best you can get in Pakistan. Still has a lot of shortcomings, but it's better than any other place here.

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Yeah bro, experience, I am studying Computer Engineering NUST EME and I have not a slight doubt saying that it is not near as good as it should be, I know it is very hard to understand from outside due to its good overall rep, believe you me, in 2 years I have barely seen 2-3 teachers that are hardly upto the standard, rest of them are just there "not to teach", once you are a part of the system only then you will come to know what it is and what it's not. In my case, it is not just me, it is nearly 30 out of 43 students who share the same thought. It is just these talented and hard working students here that are holding up its name of what it remains. And I bet you, send these same students to FAST or comsats, after 4 years every one of them would become a proper weapon. (I am saying this because I guess everyone here know that every year NUST takes the cream form all over Pak, it is, on paper, one of the highest merited uni in Pak and I find no reason for it being one of the highest merited).
Maybe the CE department is in a bad state. The others are doing fine though (recently the EE dept. in H-12 is witnessing a decline cuz of some stupid decisions by the administration), but overall I've come across quite a few good, inspiring teachers there.
 

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[MENTION=29074]rafay22[/MENTION] is spot on. Avoid EME like the plague. That's the best piece of advice I can give to any prospective NUST student.
 

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hmmm ahan...So your experience caters for EME campus as a whole. I would still be inclined to believe that the H-12 campus is much better as compared to any other campus of NUST. What about it?
Yeah, :) My experience caters specifically for EME campus, and I have a slight insight that H12 would be miles better than EME, my elder sis studies there and she seldom complains about it, but there are some aspects in H12 as well in which I see the reflection of EME as well.
 

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From a living point of view, yes life can very boring there, but in terms of academics it's about the best you can get in Pakistan. Still has a lot of shortcomings, but it's better than any other place here.

Maybe the CE department is in a bad state. The others are doing fine though (recently the EE dept. in H-12 is witnessing a decline cuz of some stupid decisions by the administration), but overall I've come across quite a few good, inspiring teachers there.
In EME the best-est department you can opt for is CE, Computer Engineering, if I was given a choice again, then among EME I would chose CE again, it stands out at top by a pretty big margin.
And you know, for Hostelites, it is a nightmare, there is no internet before 4pm, there is no light (mostly) in load shedding hours and there is no water in some of the Hostels, there are good ones too, but they are very very few.
 

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For bachelors in Electrical Engineering => SEECS, NUST H-12.
Nothing else even comes close when it comes to EE. Top labs and Top faculty, although I see the faculty taking a dive in quality but who knows what the future holds.
 

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For bachelors in Electrical Engineering => SEECS, NUST H-12.
Nothing else even comes close when it comes to EE. Top labs and Top faculty, although I see the faculty taking a dive in quality but who knows what the future holds.
What about bachelors in CS from NUST H-12?
 

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What about bachelors in CS from NUST H-12?
Its good, even if the faculty is not the best in Pak, they have lots of positions for CS grads both full time and internships AND they have tons of links with software houses and tech companies. This alone offers many opportunities.
 

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for BS CS I'd say FAST. I find it very good in teaching the concepts and from what I know and saw, they have a many alumni as well as good reputation in the industry.
 

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BE Mechanical Engineering
EME College NUST, Rawalpindi

I can sum up my two years at EME College kind of like this.

Pros:
1. Super-competitive
2. Once in a while, you get a world class Lecturer/Professor to teach you
3. Alumni
4. Fee structure
5. No drugs
6. Quality sports facilities

Cons:
1. Loads of donkey work (copying walls of text from lab manuals for example)
2. Strict discipline/Stifled environment
3. Uniform
4. Super-studious crowd
5. Really bad Lecturers/Professors sometimes
 
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Bachelors in Mechanical/Electrical/Chemical engineering:

-> NED, UET Lahore, PU, NUST, GIKI, LUMS

Go with the big names and avoid smaller private universities because their degrees aren't nowhere near what what they charge.. KU may be big but you won't see their engineers in many companies.. With these disciplines, the more the PR of your university, and bigger the name, the better.

The single biggest factor when choosing a university should be the relationship of that university's department with the companies that do hiring.. I have seen some below average students, from average universities get excellent jobs just because their university made available the opportunity by campus hiring..


For Masters in Engineering:

Within Pakistan, it is near about useless to do a Masters in Engineering, except if you are in Academia (Lecturer, etc.). Instead of wasting your 2 years with a Masters, get some job experience. In 99% of the cases, the Masters person gets hired along with Bachelors guys to do the same job..
 

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And yeah forgot to add Internet - WiFi speed in IU (Talking about Main Campus) is upto 80 Mbps, tested personally over speedtest.net (sm1). IU - 2 | Other Uni - 1 :D
 

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