Transworld Enterprise Services (TES) - GPON - Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad

Ibbu Bhai

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Send them the IP ranges from the list, or just a screenshot of the Middle East, Singapore and Europe IPs and tell them to optimise it.
I've sent them. Lets see what they offer.

Well you'll be shocked to know that on Optix I get 50 to 55ms ping on (Middle East Server) in PUBG Mobile lobby, but in game it jumps to 130ms to 140ms. I really don't get that.

The strangest thing that I noticed that when ever I sit nearest to my Optix Device and play the Middle East Server I get the same ping just like in lobby which is 50ms to 55ms.

Currently this doesn't happen on TW since on TW the pings are high but the fluctuation is quite less, where as the ping jumps on Optix are quite high from 140ms to 600ms.

I'm using both for now TW which I got recently installed and Optix for past 3 years. I will stick with one which serves me well. Btw Transworld is too damn expensive as compared to Optix.
 

Ibbu Bhai

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Send them the IP ranges from the list, or just a screenshot of the Middle East, Singapore and Europe IPs and tell them to optimise it.
Today TW told me that I should get Static Ip's for better pings is that a good idea? Should I spend money on such thing ?
 

murtaza12

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Today TW told me that I should get Static Ip's for better pings is that a good idea? Should I spend money on such thing ?
Cheap money making tactic by TES.

Complain to PTA if they don't fix the routing and are trying to charge you for static IP.
 

shaheerk

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Here's why static IP won't necessarily help: the route from Transworld's servers to the internet is still botched.

In rare cases would they change routes according to the IPs (it's possible - we don't know), but generally, it's just a smokescreen.

I don't think they'll fix their routes - for starters, PTCL seems to be more hellbent on fixing their routes than Transworld are these days because PTCL's connectivity to the Middle East is better than Transworld's in most cases (try pinging 156.154.70.1 on Transworld and on PTCL, for instance). That's not to say PTCL is without faults (sometimes, their route to Singapore Equinix's datacenters sometimes go via Europe - which is very dumb - while Transworld go directly to Singapore from Karachi).

I wonder if ISPs can control these routes, or whether ISPs are dependent on PTCL/TW1 on determining the optimum route.
 

Ibbu Bhai

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Here's why static IP won't necessarily help: the route from Transworld's servers to the internet is still botched.

In rare cases would they change routes according to the IPs (it's possible - we don't know), but generally, it's just a smokescreen.

I don't think they'll fix their routes - for starters, PTCL seems to be more hellbent on fixing their routes than Transworld are these days because PTCL's connectivity to the Middle East is better than Transworld's in most cases (try pinging 156.154.70.1 on Transworld and on PTCL, for instance). That's not to say PTCL is without faults (sometimes, their route to Singapore Equinix's datacenters sometimes go via Europe - which is very dumb - while Transworld go directly to Singapore from Karachi).

I wonder if ISPs can control these routes, or whether ISPs are dependent on PTCL/TW1 on determining the optimum route.

See this:
https://imgur.com/a/vqVuFYv
 

Ibbu Bhai

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PTCL gives me around 50ms (I'm in Pindi).

But there are a few other sites which TW1 routes better to (can't find right now).

Oddly, sometimes, to Singapore, TW1 is about 20-25ms lower than PTCL. That's not earth shattering, but I did find it a bit interesting.

Sent from my Pixel 4 using Tapatalk
So what server should I connect on PUBG Mobile ? For lower pings.
 

Saadio

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Today TW told me that I should get Static Ip's for better pings is that a good idea? Should I spend money on such thing ?
lol. They told me Static IP won't help in getting better pings. worst isp ever in terms for gaming. IDK what have they done but I wasn't able to play cod warzone no matter what, I changed my dns and the game worked with 170ms ping. Now I am using a software and 58-70ms ping :D
 

Ibbu Bhai

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lol. They told me Static IP won't help in getting better pings. worst isp ever in terms for gaming. IDK what have they done but I wasn't able to play cod warzone no matter what, I changed my dns and the game worked with 170ms ping. Now I am using a software and 58-70ms ping :D
Which Software and on which games does it works ?
 

Farrukhkazimi

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Here's why static IP won't necessarily help: the route from Transworld's servers to the internet is still botched.

In rare cases would they change routes according to the IPs (it's possible - we don't know), but generally, it's just a smokescreen.

I don't think they'll fix their routes - for starters, PTCL seems to be more hellbent on fixing their routes than Transworld are these days because PTCL's connectivity to the Middle East is better than Transworld's in most cases (try pinging 156.154.70.1 on Transworld and on PTCL, for instance). That's not to say PTCL is without faults (sometimes, their route to Singapore Equinix's datacenters sometimes go via Europe - which is very dumb - while Transworld go directly to Singapore from Karachi).

I wonder if ISPs can control these routes, or whether ISPs are dependent on PTCL/TW1 on determining the optimum route.

This is true. This is the only reason why I have kept my upstream on TW instead of PIE. I play apex and I get optimum pings in Singapore and Bahrain but when I was on PIE, I used to get a little high pings (around 90-100) to Singapore and it becomes abruptly unstable sometimes and you can't even play because of huge spikes. The only downside of being on tw1 is that you get a little higher pings to EU West as compared to PIE. But nonetheless, everything looks so smooth when you are on tw1 upstream. Bandwidth doesn't get choked, less spikes and more importantly you experience smoothness in streaming, buffering etc. HUGE DIFFERENCE

Singapore Valve Server:


AWS Singapore:

 

hashir47

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Do you guys also get days when the ping is bad across every game/server?
For me there are some days every month where my pings are like this :

Region Latency
US-East (Virginia) 236 ms
US East (Ohio) 278 ms
US-West (California) 392 ms
US-West (Oregon) 370 ms
Canada (Central) 297 ms
Europe (Ireland) 250 ms
Europe (London) 217 ms
Europe (Frankfurt) 222 ms
Europe (Paris) 216 ms
Europe (Stockholm) 231 ms
Middle East (Bahrain) 231 ms
Asia Pacific (Hong Kong) 439 ms
Asia Pacific (Mumbai) 288 ms
Asia Pacific (Osaka-Local) 245 ms
Asia Pacific (Seoul) 377 ms
Asia Pacific (Singapore) 171 ms
Asia Pacific (Sydney) 468 ms
Asia Pacific (Tokyo) 235 ms
South America (São Paulo) 436 ms
China (Beijing) 473 ms
China (Ningxia) 445 ms
AWS GovCloud (US-East) 294 ms
AWS GovCloud (US) 432 ms
 

shaheerk

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This is true. This is the only reason why I have kept my upstream on TW instead of PIE. I play apex and I get optimum pings in Singapore and Bahrain but when I was on PIE, I used to get a little high pings (around 90-100) to Singapore and it becomes abruptly unstable sometimes and you can't even play because of huge spikes. The only downside of being on tw1 is that you get a little higher pings to EU West as compared to PIE. But nonetheless, everything looks so smooth when you are on tw1 upstream. Bandwidth doesn't get choked, less spikes and more importantly you experience smoothness in streaming, buffering etc. HUGE DIFFERENCE

Spoiler: show

Singapore Valve Server:


AWS Singapore:

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For Valve Singapore, it's 117ms till Equinix, but ludicrously jumps to 283ms subsequently:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.100.1
2 8 ms 3 ms 4 ms 182.176.0.120
3 6 ms 5 ms 5 ms 10.0.2.221
4 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 10.0.2.149
5 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms 192.168.90.1
6 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms 10.253.4.106
7 26 ms 23 ms 23 ms 10.253.4.6
8 116 ms 115 ms 115 ms rwp44.pie.net.pk [221.120.251.119]
9 119 ms 118 ms 117 ms 32590.sgw.equinix.com [27.111.228.176]
10 302 ms 339 ms 325 ms 192.168.152.5
11 288 ms 312 ms 283 ms 103.28.54.16

For AWS Singapore,
1 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms 192.168.100.1
2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 182.176.0.120
3 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms 10.253.20.86
4 4 ms 4 ms 7 ms 10.0.2.149
5 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms 192.168.90.1
6 24 ms 23 ms 26 ms 10.253.4.106
7 26 ms 26 ms 27 ms 10.253.4.4
8 214 ms 225 ms 225 ms xe-0-18-0-3-1.r00.sngpsi07.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net [116.51.27.49]
9 215 ms 221 ms 233 ms ae-0.a00.sngpsi07.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.74]
10 121 ms 121 ms 125 ms ae-0.amazon.sngpsi07.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net [116.51.17.46]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 117 ms 117 ms 118 ms 52.93.10.1
14 118 ms 118 ms 118 ms 52.93.11.17
15 122 ms 122 ms 122 ms 52.93.11.22
16 120 ms 119 ms 120 ms 52.93.8.97
17 121 ms 119 ms 119 ms 203.83.223.33
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 119 ms 118 ms 119 ms ec2-52-221-255-252.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com [52.221.255.252]

Remove 25ms because of the pings between Pindi and Karachi, and still, Transworld is a little lower on these routes. However, Nexlinx's Looking Glass portal has a much longer ping for AWS Singapore (around 203ms, and it's based in Lahore).

So PTCL is unpredictable in these ways that sometimes, pings will be high for all connections to some servers, sometimes high for some connections, and sometimes normal for all connections. I don't know if Transworld has this issue. Additionally, when I had Nayatel (which used Tw1 back then), pings would vary at times - sometimes, when Google would take 45ms, it could go up to 200ms (random spikes). This jitter would muck up VOIP, and I don't game but it would affect gamers too. PTCL doesn't have these random spikes - it's either a level increase or a level decrease (i.e. if a ping is 160ms, it'll have a standard deviation of 2-3ms unlike Transworld whose standard deviation is sometimes 200ms). But when there's no erratic deviations, I've noticed GENERALLY, TW1 has lower pings by 20-50ms, although vice versa is true, so it's a mixed bag until we get another pipeline, another backbone provider, and some business sense.

Edit:
US-East (Virginia)235 ms
US East (Ohio)243 ms
US-West (California)326 ms
US-West (Oregon)348 ms
Canada (Central)229 ms
Europe (Ireland)188 ms
Europe (London)179 ms
Europe (Frankfurt)176 ms
Europe (Paris)171 ms
Europe (Stockholm)197 ms
Middle East (Bahrain)72 ms
Asia Pacific (Hong Kong)260 ms
Asia Pacific (Mumbai)82 ms
Asia Pacific (Osaka-Local)293 ms
Asia Pacific (Seoul)325 ms
Asia Pacific (Singapore)223 ms
Asia Pacific (Sydney)449 ms
Asia Pacific (Tokyo)299 ms
South America (São Paulo)352 ms
China (Beijing)343 ms
China (Ningxia)447 ms
AWS GovCloud (US-East)244 ms
AWS GovCloud (US)340 ms
 
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