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zafarabbasrizvi

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So u can buy play store apps with telenor balance. I wish other sims had this too.

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I got debit card session active krne ke bank wale 50 kaat lete so balance thing is better.

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Telenor balance came in account after deduction of 25% amount loaded. This means to buy 750 Rupees app, one must have to load 1000 Rupees. If process is same as I said, its too bad. Infact its a scam.
And I have credit card. So Thanks but No thanks.
There should be easypay account option than Telenor sim balance.

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iNCEPTiON

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Telenor balance came in account after deduction of 25% amount loaded. This means to buy 750 Rupees app, one must have to load 1000 Rupees. If process is same as I said, its too bad. Infact its a scam.
And I have credit card. So Thanks but No thanks.
There should be easypay account option than Telenor sim balance.

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Fair enough . :)

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shaheerk

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Agreed. But for people with a weak will power, credit card is a bit dangerous.
I use UBL Wiz. Online shopping and works like a debit card with no session charges.
You can always reduce your credit card limit.

But I agree with what you're saying - people have the false illusion of always having money, but when it comes to repaying the money, they'd rather pay a small amount with interest rather than the full amount and zero interest.

This is called financial discipline. Not many people (around the world) have it - look at most first world countries, and see how debt-ridden their citizens are.

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khanorak

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You can always reduce your credit card limit.

But I agree with what you're saying - people have the false illusion of always having money, but when it comes to repaying the money, they'd rather pay a small amount with interest rather than the full amount and zero interest.

This is called financial discipline. Not many people (around the world) have it - look at most first world countries, and see how debt-ridden their citizens are.

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Agreed.

I had thought over the idea of getting a CC. Ultimately settled with a Debit Card as it provided, in addition to its normal features, a reality check: "stay in your income limits".

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shaheerk

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Agreed.

I had thought over the idea of getting a CC. Ultimately settled with a Debit Card as it provided, in addition to its normal features, a reality check: "stay in your income limits".

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Even though I work in a bank myself, I didn't opt for the credit card until at least one year after my employment (I'm financially disciplined - unless when I have to buy a new phone, which I don't do more than once a year, and spend 40k or something - but I digress...) and used to use my debit card all the time.

I'm going a bit off-topic, but very quickly:

Pros of CC:
- unlike the debit card, the connection is always established (debit cards are way more prone to "link down" messages, in my experience).
- if you don't have any balance in your account, but need to purchase something badly, use the CC. You're not entirely bound by your account limit. But make sure you pay the bill.
- internet purchases - not all banks (locally) allow you to use your debit card online (and those who do, only permit a small time-window).
- you spend, and get reward points. You can encash it for some products (I've done it), or use it for discounts (some are available on debit cards too).
- you get a credit shield (in case of incorrect charges), and you get to see your statement before you pay. Can't do this with a debit card.

Cons:
- go watch the movie "confessions of a shopaholic". You'll see how credit cards can be bad. It's a chick flick, I know, but it tells you the weakness very well.
- don't even think about withdrawing cash from an ATM using your credit card - you'll be charged interest on the amount PER DAY, and it's not cheap!

Pros of debit card:
- you won't go overboard your account balance.

Cons:
- the link doesn't always work
- no rewards system (points); and as far as discounts are concerned: depends on the bank.
- need to pay a medical bill of 15,000 but your account only has Rs. 2,413? Good luck with the debit card.
- was your card accidentally swiped twice, but you paid once only? Good luck getting a refund. You don't get a credit shield with debit cards, since funds are deducted immediately (it's happened to me, and it was after this I decided to rely solely on credit cards instead).

In case it's not clear, I use my debit card in the ATM machine, and credit card and cash everywhere else.

I'll help answer additional queries - but off the board. We wouldn't want to clutter this thread anymore. But - as [MENTION=136639]zafarabbasrizvi[/MENTION] said, using carrier billing (which is cool!) on prepaid is a total waste since you have to pay ~25% to purchase something which ordinarily wouldn't cost you as much via a credit card - or even via postpaid (but in case of refunds, postpaid users get their money back after 5 days, prepaid users after some hours, and credit card users almost instantaneously - so long as you claim the refund within the 2 hour window).
 

murtaza12

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Zong 4G over a 15 MHz block still performs like this..... questionable.
And today I got a call from 310 asking if I am satisfied with Zong, pfftttt called just a few hours too early man.

Gonna try and complain tomorrow, to see how it's handled.

This also proves one other thing, Mobilink is the only network that has remained consistent for me so far.

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zafarabbasrizvi

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I am facing a weired issue against my primary Zong number in my area from past few days. On 2G/3G/4G auto mode on my phone, whenever some one try to call me (from any network), He listens "User cannot be reached at the moment" and when I turn my mobile's network mode to 2G/3G auto, incoming starts working smoothly.

This means Incoming calls are working on 3G and 2G but not on 4G. Since VoLTE is not available on Zong, 4G network should have been auto downgrad to 3G for a call whenever incoming call arrives (Which is a normal process for all 4G network in Pakistan).

Initially I thought 4G network is not downgrading to 3G, and due to non availability of VoLTE number is going unreachable to callers. But after checking in detail I understand that whenever some one calls me my 4G does drop to 3G and remains on 3G untill caller drop the call after listening user is unreachable, and as soon as caller drop the call, cell phone switch to 4G from 3G again, but call does not connect.

I tried same at different location (opposite Zong office Madina town) and incoming was working perfectly while remaining on 2G/3G/4G auto mode. And 4G was downgrading to 3G for successful incoming.

Now at the moment I am on 2G/3G auto mode instead off 2G/3G/4G auto.

Tried to lodge a complaint through help line and a female officer didn't understand this technical issue at all, I had to ask her to arrange a call to her supervisor, Received call from a supervisor after one hour (Luckily She was also a lady) and fortunately She underatand my issue after long list of inquiries and registered my complaint. Now Technical department will resolve my problem within 48 hours I think. Wish me a luck

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iNCEPTiON

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I am facing a weired issue against my primary Zong number in my area from past few days. On 2G/3G/4G auto mode on my phone, whenever some one try to call me (from any network), He listens "User cannot be reached at the moment" and when I turn my mobile's network mode to 2G/3G auto, incoming starts working smoothly.

This means Incoming calls are working on 3G and 2G but not on 4G. Since VoLTE is not available on Zong, 4G network should have been auto downgrad to 3G for a call whenever incoming call arrives (Which is a normal process for all 4G network in Pakistan).

Initially I thought 4G network is not downgrading to 3G, and due to non availability of VoLTE number is going unreachable to callers. But after checking in detail I understand that whenever some one calls me my 4G does drop to 3G and remains on 3G untill caller drop the call after listening user is unreachable, and as soon as caller drop the call, cell phone switch to 4G from 3G again, but call does not connect.

I tried same at different location (opposite Zong office Madina town) and incoming was working perfectly while remaining on 2G/3G/4G auto mode. And 4G was downgrading to 3G for successful incoming.

Now at the moment I am on 2G/3G auto mode instead off 2G/3G/4G auto.

Tried to lodge a complaint through help line and a female officer didn't understand this technical issue at all, I had to ask her to arrange a call to her supervisor, Received call from a supervisor after one hour (Luckily She was also a lady) and fortunately She underatand my issue after long list of inquiries and registered my complaint. Now Technical department will resolve my problem within 48 hours I think. Wish me a luck

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Best of luck... Today i faced a strange issue as well... I had 3 signals at my home.. In my room usually it shifts to 2G and emergency calls only... So when I went out of the house it didnt switched to 2G and I had to switch off the sim and then enable it to get the signals...

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murtaza12

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Noticed something weird today, with Zong.

After making a call, my phone usually takes a while to switch back to LTE, so I decided to stay on Zong 3G, and holy crap, it's quick. I'd seen speedtests before and used my friends phone on Zong 3G, but it's excellent for me. Didn't do a speedtest, but I was downloading files on my laptop and it was going around 1.2 - 1.7 MB/s, whereas their 4G wouldn't cross 400 kB/s for some reason.

Somethings up with their spectrum refarming, it's just not that great in Bahria. Their 3G is way better.
 

iNCEPTiON

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Noticed something weird today, with Zong.

After making a call, my phone usually takes a while to switch back to LTE, so I decided to stay on Zong 3G, and holy crap, it's quick. I'd seen speedtests before and used my friends phone on Zong 3G, but it's excellent for me. Didn't do a speedtest, but I was downloading files on my laptop and it was going around 1.2 - 1.7 MB/s, whereas their 4G wouldn't cross 400 kB/s for some reason.

Somethings up with their spectrum refarming, it's just not that great in Bahria. Their 3G is way better.
Wow thats amazing.... Congrats so u happy with ZoNG

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murtaza12

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Wow thats amazing.... Congrats so u happy with ZoNG

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Again, I am happy, not with the 4G speeds exactly, but with the overall stability and reliability of it.

Have been making a few voice calls and they seem to be fine as well.

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hamidkhatri

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[MENTION=136639]zafarabbasrizvi[/MENTION] that same problem happens with me in jamshoro, i have to convert to 2g/3g mode to be able to make and receive calls, didnt bother to complain yet..:p

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