XBOX The Jasper Hunt

[USUF]

^ Last time i checked, Jaspers were above lot number 0844. But thats just the minimum safe lot number. You can expect to even end up with a falcon with lot number above 0844.

 

[USUF]

^ im actually waiting for reports that confirm that Jaspers are rrod free or not. A few more months and we'll know for sure.

 

[kumail]

dude i hav a PAL 30-6-08 mmanufacture date iz it a falcon

 

[USUF]

^ June 2008...That OBVIOUSLY was going to be a falcon dude...What'd you expect?

 

[kumail]

thnks no dude actually i say a website tht said its not a falcon so got scared alot thts y thnks for helping dude

 

[USUF]

^ which site?

 

[BeLoShI]

Well USUf than u need to wait more than 2 month to actually hear abt that i think it will turn out to be good as we saw it dropped to avg 13% with falcons.

 

[incredibulous]

am not goin to wait for reviews..i'll give it a try my self ...

 

[mystirfan]

I`ll buy Jasper without even thining a sec c`oz i bought falcon as soon as they reached UAE..... and as we all know tht Jasper is equipped with a 65nm GPU and CPU the chances of rrod will drop significantly....

 

[incredibulous]

I`ll buy Jasper without even thining a sec c`oz i bought falcon as soon as they reached UAE..... and as we all know tht Jasper is equipped with a 65nm GPU and CPU the chances of rrod will drop significantly....

i dont think size does matter

 

[mystirfan]

i dont think size does matter

If u dont think tht size doesnt matter then y r u dying to buy Jasper buy falcon instead c`oz the only difference is a smaller GPU and Built in 256mb memory ... and size realy matters c`oz now Intel has started producing 45nm CPUs which r more reliable then the old 65nm ones... and one more thing is tht by installing both 65nm GPU and CPU in xbox 360 the manufacturing cost will also reduce and we can expect another price drop in the near future too.... so we r in for a real treat from Microsoft this time.....

 

[estranged]

^^^ microsoft will not drop prices anywhere in the near future. they will try to maximize their profits to reclaim the millions (probably billions) of dollars spent in rrod replacement and repair

 

[incredibulous]

If u dont think tht size doesnt matter then y r u dying to buy Jasper buy falcon instead c`oz the only difference is a smaller GPU and Built in 256mb memory ... and size realy matters c`oz now Intel has started producing 45nm CPUs which r more reliable then the old 65nm ones... and one more thing is tht by installing both 65nm GPU and CPU in xbox 360 the manufacturing cost will also reduce and we can expect another price drop in the near future too.... so we r in for a real treat from Microsoft this time.....

eventually jaspers will get rodded too
i see my self xclamping them wak wak

 

[Zeus]

eventually jaspers will get rodded too
i see my self xclamping them wak wak

What makes you say that??

 

[incredibulous]

What makes you say that??

well no one can be certain at the moment that Jaspers are RROD proof.,
i wont believe it untill i try it maself!!
it'll be put under trial sooner and i'll see how far Jaspers can go!!

 

[Zeus]

well no one can be certain at the moment that Jaspers are RROD proof.,
i wont believe it untill i try it maself!!
it'll be put under trial sooner and i'll see how far Jaspers can go!!

Well Falcons are going strong and they have been out for over a year now so i'm sure Jasper would also last long.I'm hoping my Falcon lasts for 3 years(BTW i'm keeping it well ventilated etc.)

 

[TheGoldenTouch]

This is a right place to discuss about jasper.........
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Amazon starting to ship Jasper Xbox 360 Pro Consoles

Santa was a busy elf this year. I try to keep a simple uncluttered media center in my living room. To that end I have had the Xbox 360 Pro since launch and a Yamaha YSP surround sound bar. This worked great until 1080p and serious up-scaling came onto the scene a couple of years back. I added an Oppo 1080p DVD player about 2 years ago and recently I replaced my non 1080p LCD for a Samsung 1080p A650 LCD.

Here is where the dilemma came in; all this shiny new 1080p HDMI gear and an old Xbox 360. I have been waiting for a Jasper unit for some time and finally decided the wait was not worth it. I really wanted HDMI and the larger hard drive as I use Xbox Live Marketplace to buy TV shows and such. I ditched cable TV last month once Netflix and Playon was on the scene in full force.

From what I have been reading only the Xbox 360 Arcade units have been coming as Jasper revisions. The Falcon revisions have been performing well, and I was tired of waiting and was ready to make the purchase. As luck would have it the wait was actually worth it this time.

For Christmas, my girlfriend ordered the Xbox 360 Pro to replace the older unit, thus allowing the older unit to be moved into the bedroom. This I am sure had nothing to do with being able to watch Netflix in bed and her Luxor 2 habit.

Now for the important info; the unit was ordered from Amazon on December 22nd. I was pleasantly surprised to discover the Xbox 360 Pro unit I received was actually a Jasper revision. The unit did come with a Falcon revision power supply as I have read can be the case with some of the new Arcade units.

Items that seem to indicate this 360 Pro unit is a Jasper revision: 12.1 amp power requirement, manufacture date Nov 2 2008, proper Jasper keyed power supply input, Team: FDOU, Lot No: 0845X

Update: A few people have asked and there appears to be no added memory like the 256MB found on board the new Arcade units. The console did require an update to install NXE (New Xbox Experience).

Note: Your mileage may vary, I could have just been lucky. In other words ordering from Amazon does not guarantee you a Jasper revision.

http://www.pdatoday.com/index.php/w...tarting_to_ship_jasper_xbox_360_pro_consoles/

 

[sheeraz]

Power Consumption

The beauty of a console is that the specs never change, so while AMD, Intel and NVIDIA have to try to add new features or increase clock speeds with each die shrink, Microsoft gets to sit back and reap the benefits of cooler running hardware that's cheaper to manufacture. The move from Xenon to Falcon resulted in a pretty significant reduction in power consumption; under full load a Falcon Xbox 360 drew less power than a Xenon unit at idle.
The Falcon to Jasper transition isn't quite as dramatic unfortunately. I ran five power tests, I looked at power consumption at the NXE dashboard at idle, power consumption at the main menu of Rockband 2, Halo 3 and Gears of War 2, and finally if you don't own any of these games but want a comparison point I looked at power consumption of the Xbox 360 while running the BioShock demo (at the very start of the demo when you find yourself in the water surrounded by fire). Power consumption during actual gameplay doesn't go up much, if at all, compared to the start screens for these games - the main menu screens are all rendered in 3D and are apparently just as stressful as the games themselves, plus they're a very consistent way of measuring power consumption.
I used a Watts-Up meter which the Xbox 360 plugged into, so what we're looking at here is total system power consumption.

Xbox 360 System off Idle Halo 3 Rockband 2 Gears of War 2 BioShock Demo
Xenon 2.3W 155.7W 177.8W 167.7W 177.1W 172W
Falcon 2.8W 101.4W 121.2W 112.8W 121.5W 115.5W
Jasper 2.0W 93.7W 105.9W 101.0W 105.9W 98.1W

Overall you're looking at a 12% reduction in total system power under load and under 8% at idle, definitely not the ~30 - 35% drop we saw with the Xenon to Falcon transition, but not insignificant either. Remember that the smaller your transistors get, the more leakage current becomes a problem; while your transistors use less power, they also tend to use more power when they are in a logical off state than they should. There have also been a number of advancements in architecting for low power designs over the past couple of years that Microsoft hasn't taken advantage of as they would require a redesign of the 360's CPU/GPU. Microsoft is in full blown cost savings mode with the Xbox 360, the only things that will be done to that console before it dies are things to improve the Xbox division's bottom line.


Final Words

There you have it. Jasper is out and now we play the waiting game to see if the dreaded RRoD is finally solved with the latest batch of hardware changes. Even if it's not, if you are buying an Xbox 360 today you might as well opt for the cooler running, newly redesigned Jasper model rather than the year-old Falcon. Why pay the same amount for old hardware, it's just not the AnandTech way.
And once again, to those of you with Jaspers: congrats, after 3 years you may have just bought an Xbox 360 that won't die.

http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3472&p=5&cp=3

 

[BeLoShI]

Why pay the same amount for old hardware, it's just not the AnandTech way.

Well thats a punchy Line but not every1 has his/her hand on Japser due to the availability and other thing is that they are not of same prices everywhere and one should know that how insane are the shoppies around who do know everything abt the consoles its like a gold to them.

 

[Lars]

Really now ! guys you make me cry ! I have bought 360 after many struggles
It is FALCON and JAPER is here so are you guys advising me to trade for JASPER !