Suggestion: A new processor for an old system.....

[devildante99]

Ok guys so after 3 years it seems that my E2200 is dying. I'm constanly getting BSOD's( hardware failure), i've stress checked everything GPU,RAM etc and my system always crashes 10 seconds into the CPU stress test, anyway.

As my motherboard is MSI P35 neo (LGA 775) i dont want to shell out money for a brand new system and i think a new processor will be enough. My budget is 10k and by checking out galaxy i see that i can either get an E5800, E6500 or an E7500. So from these 3 which one will give me the best performance? If the difference between E6500 and E7500 isn't a lot, i'd be more than happy to save 3k RS.

 

[Ali Kamran]

trust me i had the same problem and there is only 3-5% max difference between E6500 and E7500. Save ur 3k like me or buy a used quadcore from pg around 10-11k that wud be the best buy for u

 

[mubaidr]

You have got a overclocker mobo, my suggestion is to go for E6500 ( and overclock it to 3.5ghz), excellent buy.if u want to save money.

Dnt buy e7500
If u have to spend money then go for used quad core (Q6600 or Q8X00 series) in 10k

 

[sunny945]

you want to upgrade your current pc with a budget of 10k ?
get core i3 -2100 & msi H61-e23 + 2gb ddr3 ram

 

[next]

ma man you should grab a Q6600 from market place, OC it to 1333/3giga with somewhere around 1.3xx volts stable

 

[devildante99]

you want to upgrade your current pc with a budget of 10k ?
get core i3 -2100 & msi H61-e23 + 2gb ddr3 ram

I dont want to upgrade my entire pc, i just want to change my dying CPU.


I really want to get a quad core but i dont want to risk getting a used one, no matter how well the previous owner used it. I guess E6500 will be a good buy for 7k.

 

[LiV3 WiR3]

Maybe it's a problem in cooling because of which you are getting constant BSODs....Remove the heatsink of the processor and apply thermal paste again by cleaning he old one!....
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Or if you really wanna upgrade...Either get a used Q6600 / Q8400 around 9-10k or sell your current Proc , mobo & RAMs and get what sunny suggested....

 

[Cerberus]

getting a used quad is best and thinker is selling one....or if u dont wana spend more get a e6500k used available in marketplace...for more overclocking

 

[kingsface]

Get the q6600 furball is selling. It's a good chip for oc I believe.

 

[devnull]

Ok guys so after 3 years it seems that my E2200 is dying. I'm constanly getting BSOD's( hardware failure), i've stress checked everything GPU,RAM etc and my system always crashes 10 seconds into the CPU stress test, anyway.

As my motherboard is MSI P35 neo (LGA 775) i dont want to shell out money for a brand new system and i think a new processor will be enough. My budget is 10k and by checking out galaxy i see that i can either get an E5800, E6500 or an E7500. So from these 3 which one will give me the best performance? If the difference between E6500 and E7500 isn't a lot, i'd be more than happy to save 3k RS.

All of the above will give you better performance than your current system.... for 10 seconds before your computer crashes! You should fix your problem instead of buying a new CPU. Possible suspect components are:

cpu overheating only. if temps are fine you can safely rule out the CPU.
mobo
ram
psu
extension cards.

Test them properly or send the system to a computer repair shop.

 

[devildante99]

Maybe it's a problem in cooling because of which you are getting constant BSODs....Remove the heatsink of the processor and apply thermal paste again by cleaning he old one!....
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Or if you really wanna upgrade...Either get a used Q6600 / Q8400 around 9-10k or sell your current Proc , mobo & RAMs and get what sunny suggested....

Actually that was the first thing i did, this exact problem occured a couple of months ago and when i applied new thermal paste everything was back to normal. But this time despite applying new thermal paste i'm getting BSODs.

@everyone

Like i said before, i really dont want to get a used processor, i'll feel more comfortable with a brand new one.

EDIT:

I know that the Ram is fine because i ran a Memtest for 2 hours which showed no errors. The PSU is also seems fine because the system boots fine and nothing happens untill i do something like open an app etc etc. I'm not sure about the motherboard because i doubt there is any test for it.

But the thing is, a couple of months ago this exact same thing happened, and i tested everything on my pc, at the end of it all the CPU was the cause, although it was fixed then by new thermal paste, now even after applying new paste i'm getting BSODs.

 

[Cerberus]

if u dont wanna get used then get e6500...u hv another choice ..........sell ur board in 5k...ram at 2k add 10 more and get a sandybridge setup..dont know abt exact price of ur mobo

 

[devnull]

Actually that was the first thing i did, this exact problem occured a couple of months ago and when i applied new thermal paste everything was back to normal. But this time despite applying new thermal paste i'm getting BSODs.

@everyone

Like i said before, i really dont want to get a used processor, i'll feel more comfortable with a brand new one.

EDIT:

I know that the Ram is fine because i ran a Memtest for 2 hours which showed no errors. The PSU is also seems fine because the system boots fine and nothing happens untill i do something like open an app etc etc. I'm not sure about the motherboard because i doubt there is any test for it.

But the thing is, a couple of months ago this exact same thing happened, and i tested everything on my pc, at the end of it all the CPU was the cause, although it was fixed then by new thermal paste, now even after applying new paste i'm getting BSODs.

Its a shame that you aren't paying attention. Your CPU is unlikely to be permanently damaged. If the CPU is the cause of the problem its likely overheating. You can check that by using software like real temp or core temp.

But the correct way to figure out what part is causing the problem is to do a proper diagnoses. Now the way that is done is that you test the various parts ruling them out one by one until you arrive at the cause of the failure. You can start by breadboarding your system and running a barebones setup. Look up both terms breadboarding and barebones setup online.

You may also need to have redundant parts that you know are in working condition. For example to rule out your motherboard you will need a spare mobo that you know works 100%. If you don't have redundant parts you will need to take the system to a shop where they do. So why don't you do that?

 

[Applesauce]

^^man's gotta point...and if you really wanna upgrade then listen to sunny...its not worth it to change just the cpu with e6500...atleast get quad core for the sake of upgrade

 

[kingsface]

devnull is right. Usually the cpu is the last component to be damaged!

 

[Cerberus]

agreed with devnull

 

[devildante99]

Its a shame that you aren't paying attention. Your CPU is unlikely to be permanently damaged. If the CPU is the cause of the problem its likely overheating. You can check that by using software like real temp or core temp.

But the correct way to figure out what part is causing the problem is to do a proper diagnoses. Now the way that is done is that you test the various parts ruling them out one by one until you arrive at the cause of the failure. You can start by breadboarding your system and running a barebones setup. Look up both terms breadboarding and barebones setup online.

You may also need to have redundant parts that you know are in working condition. For example to rule out your motherboard you will need a spare mobo that you know works 100%. If you don't have redundant parts you will need to take the system to a shop where they do. So why don't you do that?

The CPU temperature is fine, usually around 45-50'C. Last time when this happened i took my system to a repair shop and tested each component one by one, when the CPU's turn came, i first ran a prime 95 test and my system crashed in 10 seconds, i then put a different CPU in, ran a prime 95 test for 1 hour and didn't get a BSOD. But when i again put my old CPU back, the BSODs stopped, i'm not sure what solved the problem then ,it might have been new thermal paste but i'm not sure.


EDIT:

Ok, so i have just tested my PSU, put it in another PC and ran a couple of stress tests, everything seems fine. Now i just need to somehow test the motherboard.

 

[next]

The CPU temperature is fine, usually around 45-50'C. Last time when this happened i took my system to a repair shop and tested each component one by one, when the CPU's turn came, i first ran a prime 95 test and my system crashed in 10 seconds, i then put a different CPU in, ran a prime 95 test for 1 hour and didn't get a BSOD. But when i again put my old CPU back, the BSODs stopped, i'm not sure what solved the problem then ,it might have been new thermal paste but i'm not sure.


EDIT:

Ok, so i have just tested my PSU, put it in another PC and ran a couple of stress tests, everything seems fine. Now i just need to somehow test the motherboard.

check your socket pins and clean your processor, try using your processor with a different system setup

 

[devnull]

The CPU temperature is fine, usually around 45-50'C. Last time when this happened i took my system to a repair shop and tested each component one by one, when the CPU's turn came, i first ran a prime 95 test and my system crashed in 10 seconds, i then put a different CPU in, ran a prime 95 test for 1 hour and didn't get a BSOD. But when i again put my old CPU back, the BSODs stopped, i'm not sure what solved the problem then ,it might have been new thermal paste but i'm not sure.

Well it could be that your CPU wasn't properly seated in its socket on the motherboard. If the electrical contacts on the bottom of the CPU aren't making proper contact with the pins in the socket you can get BSODs and even short circuits. So perhaps reseating your CPU would be a good idea? While you are at it make sure there is no foreign substance on the electrical contacts or the socket pins.

 

[devildante99]

So after sending my system to 3 different repair shops, i have been told that my processor is indeed at fault and i should change it.

I have decided to go for a Dual Core E5800 as it looks quite good in its price and has a higher clock speed compared to other dual core processors. What i am now concerned about is that whether my board will support this processor, because from what i see here

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P35-Neo.html#?div=CPUSupport

This processor isn't listed in the supported CPU chart. There is a change that MSI never updated that page because this board has been discontinued, but i'm not sure.

What do you guys think?