MULTI PG's Community Choice Awards - Best of 2012 Results!

[sunny945]

Game of the Year

Far Cry 3 (Runner-up: Journey)

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[Journeys End]

Hackers giving official statement
I dont think I can provide that sorry

they actually do that on their official websites and forums...i thought someone of ur caliber would know this :S

 

[hasanJ]

if our copy of diablo3 which is installed in our hdd can has access to them then i don't see why some hacker cant find way to exploit that and extract them. after all, cracks are developed by genuine copies...srsly u guys under estimate the PC gaming hacking scene

the most brutal form of anti-piracy measures taken by a company aka Ubisoft's infamous DRM was cracked within hours. i simply dont agree that blizzard made a game on PC that is 100% piracy-proof!

Not a valid comparison

Ubisoft's brutal form of anti-piracy involved an Always On Internet Connection
Blizzard's implementation involves an Always On Internet Connection along with Server Side Game Files

I believe ur overestimating the PC Hacking scene if u believe they can get access to Diablo 3 Server Files in a Blizzard Data Centre

As per my previous example emulators for World of Warcraft exist aka Private Servers and eventually they will come from D3
BUT they do not contain the entire game content just gliched and half stitched encounters

they actually do that on their official websites and forums...i thought someone of ur caliber would know this :S

After they have cracked it
I dont believe they give statements that they cant crack a game or maybe im not aware of it

 

[devilscallmedad]

if our copy of diablo3 which is installed in our hdd can has access to them then i don't see why some hacker cant find way to exploit that and extract them. after all, cracks are developed by genuine copies...srsly u guys under estimate the PC gaming hacking scene

the most brutal form of anti-piracy measures taken by a company aka Ubisoft's infamous DRM was cracked within hours. i simply dont agree that blizzard made a game on PC that is 100% piracy-proof!

That's an extremely misguided comparison, DRM is simply a security measure that needs to be cracked. Games like Diablo 3, Dota 2 (No its not just a Blizzard invented things its been around for AGES) have their game data known as server side files located not on your PC but on a server at the respective companies. There is no way to emulate such server without access to these server side files for the game.

 

[Journeys End]

Not a valid comparison

Ubisoft's brutal form of anti-piracy involved an Always On Internet Connection
Blizzard's implementation involes an Always On Internet Connection along with Server Side Game Files

unless those server side files are in GBs(which they are obviously not), i don't see why its not possible. there hasn't been a single good game in PC history that wasn't eventually cracked. as far as i think, those server files are also only related to co-op and stats tracking. just glorified by blizzard to make them important.

I believe ur overestimating the PC Hacking scene if u believe they can get access to Diablo 3 Server Files in a Blizzard Data Centre

if our copy of diablo3 which is installed in our hdd can has access to them then i don't see why some hacker cant find way to exploit that and extract them.

After they have cracked it
I dont believe they give statements that they cant crack a game or maybe im not aware of it

for a game like diablo3...if they couldn't, they would clearly say it(would save them a lot of requests spam) but their silence is logically pointing towards single outcome, they don't give a damn

 

[hasanJ]

unless those server side files are in GBs(which they are obviously not), i don't see why its not possible. there hasn't been a single good game in PC history that wasn't eventually cracked. as far as i think, those server files are also only related to co-op and stats tracking. just glorified by blizzard to make them important.

Er? Had u played the game u would not have made this claim or any MMO for that matter
And Server Side files not GBs?

The game has "Latency" in Single player
For example when the game was launched and servers were overloaded with Millions of Players logging in we had very high pings

High Pings in D3 results in delayed animations / lag when ur attacks land / enemies attack land on u before u can respond
This is one of the few reasons D3 has bad rep

See the Server randomizes the Game and generates levels and encounters along with Enemies/Mobs

 

[BumperJumper]

Hey guys, don't you know, instead of arguing, just think that Blizzard payed the hackers :lol:

There is nothing hack-proof and nothing uncrackable. It either takes time or interest, if interest is low, i don't see why should they even bother

SP usually gets hacked quickly as opposed to MP but in Diablo 3 case, the SP might be too bland and boring without the co-op element anyways.

 

[Gizmo]

[MENTION=1283]hasanJ[/MENTION] ...........No No, that's not directed at you, just all the people who whined and then didn't bother to vote when they were given the chance.

 

[Journeys End]

That's an extremely misguided comparison, DRM is simply a security measure that needs to be cracked. Games like Diablo 3, Dota 2 (No its not just a Blizzard invented things its been around for AGES) have their game data known as server side files located not on your PC but on a server at the respective companies. There is no way to emulate such server without access to these server side files for the game.

i think u guys are confusing me of wanting a cracked diablo3 with full fledged online component....of course thats not possible lol i just don't think a cracked diablo3 with only single player experience (with obviously no stats tracking, dlcs etc) is not possible. dota 2 is also a poor example here as thats a competitive game with absolutely no sp component. its not that it cant be hacked, its just that hacked game will be nothing but empty piece of shit lol but diablo3 is a different case. it consumes 10Gb on our computer which probably contains the complete game.

 

[devilscallmedad]

Holy Jesus...why do people keep refusing to learn and keep harping their ignorant views on something they clearly do not understand. Two people have explained to you why it isn't happening and you keep repeating the same god-damned line like a rattu toota. Go do some fucking research, being dumb is no reason to stay ignorant.

Understanding Client Side Game Data for Dummies
File A - On computer
File B - On Company Server
File C- On computer

For the game work File B needs to interact with File A and File C for a specific event to happen, but there is no file b in your computer your game sends its data to the server in real time the server side which has access to all file calculates the result of the interactions and resends the data to your computer essentially telling your game engine what would have happened. In even simpler terms Diablo 3 is essentially always 'multiplayer' and no its not just achievements (that was the case with Starcraft 2 not Diablo 3) its GAME ENGINE DATA.

 

[Chandoo]

Why are we discussing blizzards DRM policy in the PG awaami award topic again ?

 

[hasanJ]

]i think u guys are confusing me of wanting a cracked diablo3 with full fledged online component....of course thats not possible lol i just don't think a cracked diablo3 with only single player experience (with obviously no stats tracking, dlcs etc) is not possible. [/B]dota 2 is also a poor example here as thats a competitive game with absolutely no sp component. its not that it cant be hacked, its just that hacked game will be nothing but empty piece of shit lol but diablo3 is a different case. it consumes 10Gb on our computer which probably contains the complete game.

Thats what im trying to tell u
Diablo3's Single Player and Online Co-Op Component is one and the same thing

 

[Gizmo]

Why are we discussing blizzards DRM policy in the PG awaami award topic again ?

Because this is.......

 

[Journeys End]

Er? Had u played the game u would not have made this claim or any MMO for that matter

actually i was the one who ordered the LE first on PG(thank got that never got through) and i have tried it through a guest pass(thanks again for that [MENTION=1414]Omyakha[/MENTION]). couldn't even finish that due to extremely boring dungeons and bugs. short story, don't ever doubt my diablo knowledge!

The game has "Latency" in Single player
For example when the game was launched and servers were overloaded with Millions of Players logging in we had very high pings

High Pings in D3 results in delayed animations / lag when ur attacks land / enemies attack land on u before u can respond
This is one of the few reasons D3 has bad rep

See the Server randomizes the Game and generates levels and encounters along with Enemies/Mobs

this proofs nothing...its just like playing any normal game online. the only difference is that u must connect to a authorize server even if ur playing alone. btw whenever a client connects to a server, both of them share authorization protocols/files which are then checked randomly to validate that the client is indeed legitimate. what i m trying to say here is that the client keeps a local copy of those authorization files until the connection is lost which is how a supposed hacker could get those server sides files, reverse engineer them and voila, we have a fake server that mimics official server protocols aka how all MMOs are pirated :S

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Thats what im trying to tell u
Diablo3's Single Player and Online Co-Op Component is one and the same thing

and that is why i said a emulated server(with bare minimum files needed for alone playthrough) would work...

 

[omarko]

See, Fez: Platformer of the Year award.

Team PG screwed up in the Platformer of the Year award.

Fez was the sole winner. Hell, it was Eurogamer's GOTY.

 

[Journeys End]

Holy Jesus...why do people keep refusing to learn and keep harping their ignorant views on something they clearly do not understand. Two people have explained to you why it isn't happening and you keep repeating the same god-damned line like a rattu toota. Go do some fucking research, being dumb is no reason to stay ignorant.

yes those statements definitely put u in a strong position

btw i also got hurt like u when people were bashing diablo3 but then i played it through a guest pass and...well its a really bad game compared to its previous iterations. it takes time to accept that. i can understand that.

 

[hasanJ]

actually i was the one who ordered the LE first on PG(thank got that never got through) and i have tried it through a guest pass(thanks again for that [MENTION=1414]Omyakha[/MENTION]). couldn't even finish that due to extremely boring dungeons and bugs. short story, don't ever doubt my diablo knowledge!


this proofs nothing...its just like playing any normal game online. the only difference is that u must connect to a authorize server even if ur playing alone. btw whenever a client connects to a server, both of them share authorization protocols/files which are then checked randomly to validate that the client is indeed legitimate. what i m trying to say here is that the client keeps a local copy of those authorization files until the connection is lost which is how a supposed hacker could get those server sides files, reverse engineer them and voila, we have a fake server that mimics official server protocols aka how all MMOs are pirated :S

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and that is why i said a emulated server(with bare minimum files needed for alone playthrough) would work...

1) its a full-fledged online game which u just claimed cannot be cracked
To play the game u connect to a server which supports upto 4 players

This is exactly like all online games and online games without user available server files don't get cracked

2) yes the game is 10gb as all models and game files are available locally
The data to render what dungeons and what encounters and how enemies react is server-side just like in mmo

3) pirated servers for mmo are emulated
Not duplicated hence my point they are half stitched as I have played extensively on them

 

[omarko]

1) its a full-fledged online game which u just claimed cannot be cracked
To play the game u connect to a server which supports upto 4 players

This is exactly like all online games and online games without user available server files don't get cracked

2) yes the game is 10gb as all models and game files are available locally
The data to render what dungeons and what encounters and how enemies react is server-side just like in mmo

3) pirated servers for mmo are emulated
Not duplicated hence my point they are half stitched as I have played extensively on them

Still not worthy enough to be called the Game of the Year.

 

[Journeys End]

^^not worthy to be called Diablo!!! i m sure i would had liked it if it was named something else

3) pirated servers for mmo are emulated
Not duplicated hence my point they are half stitched as I have played extensively on them

and a half stitched diablo3 pirated server is not possible?

 

[hasanJ]

^^not worthy to be called Diablo!!! i m sure i would had liked it if it was named something else

and a half stitched diablo3 pirated server is not possible?

I'm not denying that
The game and encounters will be a shadow of its retail unlike cracking other games where u get the same game content

From 2009 - 10 I played wow on pservers
Bought retail I'm 2010 and it was a compleltely different game