MULTI Linus: Dualshock 4 "is the BEST game controller"

[CerebralTiger]

Xbox and Steam controllers cry in the distance (Note: Steam controller's gyroscope's polling rate is vastly inferior to that of the DS4)

It looks like Linus recently came to know about the combo of flick stick and gyro. I had brought it up earlier in the Doom Eternal thread to Necrokiller throwing up

 

[Chandoo]

Linus must be getting those checks left and right now

 

[Necrokiller]

The irony that PS4 fanboys are getting excited over DS4 functionality that isn't even possible across all games on the console that it was designed for. Actually, a failure on Sony's part. For shame really.

Right analog stick continues to be the worst way to play games.

 

[CerebralTiger]

The irony that PS4 fanboys are getting excited over DS4 functionality that isn't even possible across all games on the console that it was designed for.

PS4 hater (despite owning one and not owning the console he praises) continues to hate

Also, Gravity Rush 2 and several VR games lol.

 

[Necrokiller]

Not possible "across all games" implies that only a few games do.

2 games = ALL games

What a dumb ass the OP is. Nothing new there.

 

[CerebralTiger]

Your statement was vague to begin with, so pardon me for being "dumb". Could've just said, "there's no console-wide support for the functionality". On that subject, maybe things will be different on PS5.

 

[NaNoW]

guys no reason to start getting personal in every topic.

 

[Necrokiller]

That time of the month for the OP

 

[Chandoo]

 

[iampasha]

Personally, I don't use the gyro functionality but ds4 really shines on PC thru steam/ds4windows, much more so than on a ps4.

On the other hand Xbox controller is plug and play on PC, so it has that going for it

 

[Necrokiller]

Personally, I don't use the gyro functionality but ds4 really shines on PC thru steam/ds4windows, much more so than on a ps4.

On the other hand Xbox controller is plug and play on PC, so it has that going for it

Yep. DS4 is in a weird middle ground between Steam Controller and Xbox controller.

Having used all options (except for Nintendo's offering), Xbox offers the best controller on PC for plug n play functionality across all storefronts for people who are already accustomed to analog sticks in all genres or want to use it for games which rely less on camera controls and aiming.

DS4 is good for people who want to avoid analog stick and get gyro functionality and can't get their hands on a Steam controller now. But you have to use 3rd party softwares for compatibility which can get iffy at times. Not to mention the on screen prompts won't always match and DS4 has terrible battery life even with lowering lightbar through settings.

Steam controller is by far the best option if you have already decided to tinker around with software for compatibility. The controller API gives you full customizable controls leading to almost infinite possibilities. Even though other controllers are compatible with the API, the lack of back pedals, dual stage triggers, and track pads limits the possibilities greatly. DS4 is essentially a vastly inferior Steam Controller and a slightly higher polling rate can't overcome the short comings of missing hardware functionality that Steam Controller provides (that too at a lower price point for people who already purchased it).

Most important deduction here then is, that the right analog stick can go and cry in a corner for eternity. No place for this archaic and sluggish input method for shooters, camera and cursor control in games.

 

[CerebralTiger]

The DS4's gyroscope has a polling rate (wired) of 250Hz while the Steam controller has a polling rate (wired) of 170Hz. The difference is even greater when wireless, owing to the DS4's lower wireless latency. It's a substantial difference, whichever way you look at it.

Linus talks about a new option called flick stick that lets you snap your view in the direction that the analog stick is pushed towards in 360 degree space. This in conjunction with the DS4's vastly superior gyro functionality provides a much better experience than what the Steam controller offers. In fact, it's already better than the Steam controller based on the difference in gyro capabilities alone lol.

 

[GloriousChicken]

How big was the cheque he received to post this. o_o

 

[Chandoo]

How big was the cheque he received to post this. o_o

Well .. Epic got 250m for multiple positive PS5 spins and Linus has done 2 videos only on the controller.

Probably a cool 50k or something

 

[Necrokiller]

Probably cut 25K because he also made this video in the past

But Linus is still better than people who complain about polling rates and repeatedly call 30fps games the best "playing" and "feeling" games

 

[faraany3k]

The best controller is from the 8bit Do.

It works with Nintendo Switch and is built like a tank. Seriously after using a controller from this 8bit Do, you will feel like PS and XBOX controllers are some cheap plastic. DPAD feels like proper DPAD. Clicky and clear and great for fighting games.

On PC it connects in two ways.

Start+X will connect it as Xbox controller and steam recognizes it natively.
Start+Y will connect it as Nintendo PRO controller and steam recognizes it natively. With the screenshot taking capability like Switch

 

[CerebralTiger]

But Linus is still better than people who complain about polling rates and repeatedly call 30fps games the best "playing" and "feeling" games

Yeah, try fixing RDR2's game feel by pushing the frame rate up and see how that works for you

 

[Necrokiller]

On a DS4, Last of Us Remastered has input lag comparable to a 30fps game. How bad would it be originally at 30fps? This is the game people called the "best playing third person shooter". But but but muh polling rate.

 

[JANARIOO]

Well linus is no gamer nor won any tornuments so this is just a click bait

 

[Necrokiller]

God of War, base PS4 input lag

~260ms for moving Kratos.

Tank of War!

edit: I measured the time from when the analog stick is fully pressed in the right direction to the moment Kratos starts movement. If you consider the time from exactly the moment you flick the analog stick, the input lag actually crosses the 300ms mark.