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cheesewarrior01

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Steroids are for people who are looking for shortcuts, and are not determined enough to go through the natural way of body building.
But let me tell you from experience, it causes more harm than good.
Its like an adrenaline rush or an increased effect from redbull.
I have taken steroids (i was a fool then - for a month), a red colored substance called Decca, injected directly into the shoulder bone, after that i could lift weights i thought otherwise impossible. Yes it does speed up the process of you getting into shape and beefy.
But when i did my research and found out, it can be a reason for impotency and many other illness, i stopped!.

Natural way is much better, eat healthy and exercise regularly.
Dude that's the most stupid thing any guy can do. You just dont buy steroids and pop them in your body LOL!

Anyway Syed Misbah, 2 years is nothing bhai. Your body can still do a lot of growing naturally. If I were you, I'd wait a year or two, until your weights start to stall, and then do a cycle, but it seems you've made up your mind. Kher take a picture now, and then take a picture after the cycle. Also write down the current weights your lifting, and the after stats. Be sure to do a blood test of your Testosterone levels before you start the cycle, and then do regular checkups afterward so you can see if they have decreased too much. And....just be safe mate, there is only a very small line between Steroid Use and Steroid Abuse.
 

SaadChohan

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Dude that's the most stupid thing any guy can do. You just dont buy steroids and pop them in your body LOL!
You crazy???? Why make assumptions? when did i say i just popped them?
The steroids were given to me a by a professional body builder who was also my personal trainer. And i took them at regular intervals with all the predecessors required.

Taking steroids is a mistake, doesn't matter when you take them or how you take them.
 

cheesewarrior01

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You crazy???? Why make assumptions? when did i say i just popped them?
The steroids were given to me a by a professional body builder who was also my personal trainer. And i took them at regular intervals with all the predecessors required.

Taking steroids is a mistake, doesn't matter when you take them or how you take them.
Oh my mistake then. Your previous post implied that you just bought deca and injected it.

Anyway, it can definitely be a mistake if you dont understand the risks and have no idea on how to cycle it properly, but if the person is aware of the risks and takes measures to decrease them, then the positives can outweigh the negatives.
PS: Like I said above, I personally wont be using steroids until I've fulfilled my natural potential.
 

syed misbah

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currently i lift 100kg with help on bench press
70kg wid out help for 10reps
inclined press
80kg wid help
70kg widout help for 6-8 reps
dumble press on 30kg each dumble for 10 reps
25kg dumble on inclined for 10reps
on biceps 15kg plate eachside on barbel curls
10kg dumble on biceps
militry press on 40kg for 10reps
20kg bumble on shoulder10reps
60kg on squats 20 reps
260kg on leg press 20reps
dead lift on 100kg for 10 reps and 150 kg for3 reps
i lift more and more weight in every games
 

SaadChohan

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Oh my mistake then. Your previous post implied that you just bought deca and injected it.

Anyway, it can definitely be a mistake if you dont understand the risks and have no idea on how to cycle it properly, but if the person is aware of the risks and takes measures to decrease them, then the positives can outweigh the negatives.
PS: Like I said above, I personally wont be using steroids until I've fulfilled my natural potential.
Yeh well, comes down to personal choice.
You are right, about being knowing the risks and when and how to use it. My trainer pestered me to continue as steroids ain't cheap, and i am sure he was getting a big profit out of my buys, not to mention its illegal here.

If you have to take steroids, i suggest keep that as last resort, when nothing else works.
 

STREET KING

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ok...i didnt study this in my medical course since i am in 1st year bt i did watch many documentaries from authentic sources and i used my medical knowledge to decide whether they were real or no.....and secondly there is a huge chance of people overdosing on these things in countries like ours with little knowledge and medication from cheap sources is easily available here....this is why i told him not to take them....hope this clears all.....and i have had arguments with him and he is kind of a guy who will get what we say jazbati.....and honestly most of the serious bodybuilders i'v met are like that and they eventually do make the mistake due to lack of knowledge and from the joy of their success.....you guys might know alot about medical stuff but trust me you dont know anything about human psychology.....just know this that with every victory he will get the urge to use them more and more and who knows he might chose to do so...

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and i beleive natgeo is pretty authentic

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well i just rechecked the videos and all those trying to act as smart assess over here just because they have a degree or study abroad should seriously get their facts straight.....some steroids have been linked to cancer and some lead to cysts on liver causes rupture and internal bleeding.....oral steroids are more likely to cause this...and this is just a small part of the story
and if you really want to decide then get any good documentary or clip from an authentic source and make your own decision......most of them show both sides of these drugs
 
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STREET KING

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Steroid use can cause Diabetes, Psychosis, Gynecomastia and Testicular Atrophy.
let me translate this for the people here....diabetes is what we commonly call sugar in our country
psychosis is as a common word
gynecomatia is development of male breasts
testicular Atrophy is reduced size and function of testis, that is your balls.....
and this is not even the whole thing.....its really amazing how chill you people act about these things and you ask me to do the reading......well take my advice and try to understand stuff aswell the next time you read and always think of the bad that can happen in the future...you never know what the other person is so refrain from acting in a convincing way
i have been interested in bodybuilding since about an year (6 months of training though) and i have met tons of people from poor to rich who are really successful in it...one thing i learned is never suggest the good side of anything before the bad because people here in my country dont bother do do the research themselves...most steroid users here juice themselves up becasue their progress is slow and no offence but Misbah you seem to be that type....and people like these eventually do ignore the dosage and limit....so just think about this the next time you say anything
 
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Yasir

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Hello, can someone recommend me some good Chest/Tricep exercises either without weights or with the Barbell(since that's all I have at home).
Also, what's a good complementary drink to a workout, orange juice, milk etc is good?
Thanks!
 

cheesewarrior01

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Sep 6, 2009
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Hello, can someone recommend me some good Chest/Tricep exercises either without weights or with the Barbell(since that's all I have at home).
Also, what's a good complementary drink to a workout, orange juice, milk etc is good?
Thanks!
Seeing as you dont have weights or a bench, your options are quite limited. All you can do for chest are Simple Pushups, which can only take you so far.
For Triceps, do Diamond push-ups.
How To: Diamond Push-Up - YouTube

Remember that you will never see the same results with simple pushups as you would with proper weighted exercises like Bench Press and Skullcrushers.
 

qazishehryar

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guys 100 kg squats is nothing ...... a guy in my gym does 200KG squats (100kg on each sides) ..... i am on my way to catch him .... my ultimate goal is to do 80+ kg benchpress 12 reps without any help (i don't take help even if i do 5 reps only) .....
 

SaadChohan

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^What do you mean its nothing???
Everyone has his own potential, and takes time to reach 200kg squat.
When you start with 20 kg squats, even reaching 50kg squats is progress and a morale boost!
Do it right!
 

syed misbah

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guys 100 kg squats is nothing ...... a guy in my gym does 200KG squats (100kg on each sides) ..... i am on my way to catch him .... my ultimate goal is to do 80+ kg benchpress 12 reps without any help (i don't take help even if i do 5 reps only) .....
Yes ur rite but his training xprience wil be above 5 years

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WAQAS ADEEM

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guys 100 kg squats is nothing ...... a guy in my gym does 200KG squats (100kg on each sides) ..... i am on my way to catch him .... my ultimate goal is to do 80+ kg benchpress 12 reps without any help (i don't take help even if i do 5 reps only) .....
how many reps he do with 200 kg ?
and what type of squat he do....Full...Half ...or Quarter squat ??
 

qazishehryar

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His experience is definately 5+ years and mine is almost 1 years now as i joined back in Aug, 2011.... it took me around 9 months to do 100kg squats (50kg on each side)... i myself am 70kg in weight and i puck up 30kg more than my own body weight....
 

alamode

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Bumping this thread up..

- Anyone know any decent gyms (not too expensive either) in the Bahadurabad/Gulshan-e-iqbal area?
- Secondly im pretty new, so are there any websites where i can get a proper workout plan for beginners ?
 

qazishehryar

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Dec 19, 2011
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@qazishehryar you don't look like a bodybuilder from any angel :p
Heavy lifter maybe but definitely not bodybuilder :p


Dude i've been going since 1 year now and i increased my weight from effin' 55kg to 70kg ..... this is the pic i took yesterday ..... when i was doing dead lift the person was making movie from behind and was far away.... when i meet with peers and people and friends with whom i've not met in one year or so, they get amazed when they see me and they literally say "KIA TUM WAQAI WOHI SHEHRYAR HO???"

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my biceps are effin' 15 inches now and one of my friend won Mr. Quetta title recently and his bicep is 16 inches only 1 inch more than mine.... he does 80KG bench press while i do 70KG .... just look at the size of my shoulders in this pic and the chest, the shirt is bended in between my chest (this is pic is not so clear but it can be seen).... my massive forearms!!!! ... how can you say am not a builder... definitely i am not a builder for sports and competition, i am doing it for fitness and so far am successful .... i had to throw away many of my 8 months - 1year old shirts and clothings just cuz i can't wear em now.....
 
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