What do you guys think about this video. Real or fake?

[CrashBandicoot]

What i've concluded from the coversation between crash and the shah guy is that you guys need to lay off anime for a while :lol:

*puts down manga for a while*

 

[Flame1132]

Jinn r real .. thats a fact .. they can be sent after u ! that is also true .. nothing to be amazed of !! Allah hum sab ko har fitnay say mehfooz rakhay !! Ameen

 

[sshah]

Na na na.

On a very scientific scale, the human grows and keeps growing up til the age of 30. YES

Only after that it stops growing all together and the decay begins.

Djins DO decay, just not the way we think they do.

Can't say the same about all the other "entities"

From what I've read, there's way more than just djins and ghosts out there. WAY MORE.

By decay, I mean aging. The term aging is used with wrong connotations. For a lot of people it just means to get wrinkles, but in reality, it simply implies not reverting back to your original state. Believe it or not, human peak hearing age is when he is only 8 years old. After that, you lose your peak hearing ability. The point is, aging and decay does not mean getting crinkled, it implies that you simply keep biologically aging. For example, the skin elasticity and regeneration of kids under 10...you can never have that kind of skin, EVER. Which means, that once you enter the next stage, you have aged for that age group. I really cannot explain this better than this, I'm afraid.

Djinn is simply a word given for beings that are 'supposedly' - if used the orthodox religious logic- created from fire. As far as I have read, these demonic entities (Jinn is basically an arabic term for them) do not age at all. Unless killed by their own kind, I can't say they even die or age. If you age, sooner or later, you will die. That's why I cannot imagine how anyone would be able to control djinns. What people control is...I don't want to deviate the discussion, but it's Hamzad.

 

[CrashBandicoot]

By decay, I mean aging. The term aging is used with wrong connotations. For a lot of people it just means to get wrinkles, but in reality, it simply implies not reverting back to your original state. Believe it or not, human peak hearing age is when he is only 8 years old. After that, you lose your peak hearing ability. The point is, aging and decay does not mean getting crinkled, it implies that you simply keep biologically aging. For example, the skin elasticity and regeneration of kids under 10...you can never have that kind of skin, EVER. Which means, that once you enter the next stage, you have aged for that age group. I really cannot explain this better than this, I'm afraid.

Djinn is simply a word given for beings that are 'supposedly' - if used the orthodox religious logic- created from fire. As far as I have read, these demonic entities (Jinn is basically an arabic term for them) do not age at all. Unless killed by their own kind, I can't say they even die or age. If you age, sooner or later, you will die. That's why I cannot imagine how anyone would be able to control djinns. What people control is...I don't want to deviate the discussion, but it's Hamzad.

The European Pagans believed in Pixies,Goblins,Dwarves,Ghouls..These are sometimes just imaginary creatures,but to many these are different forms of Jinns...So its not just an Arabic concept..its Global

Yar Hamzaad is totally different entity..Its a part of your own soul which you detach from yourself and it exists outside your body and its extremely powerful..More powerful than any Jin..It is an allowed procedure but dangerous and not recommended..Allowed but not recommended..
At the time of our death our soul has to be extracted from our physical body and all of it should be extracted..For that reason the Soul extractor has to reinsert the hamzaad back into the parent body to complete the soul...That procedure is unimaginably painful.

May be what you menat to say was "Moakkal"?

 

[sshah]

Geez dude, I know what I am talking about. And no, hamzad is not a part of the soul, it is basically the soul's alter-ego. You can say, that like yin ang yang, you have a soul and a hamzad. And its power depends upon your own spiritual energy. The stronger the soul, the weaker the hamzad. Though, in some cases I have read that the stronger the soul, the stronger your alter ego, as yin ang yang are supposed to maintain an equilibrium. It is this being that is controlled, not Djinn/demons. And this mukual is the same thing.

 

[Crow]

creepy. I wonder why these demons/djinns always run across religious people though.

 

[CrashBandicoot]

Geez dude, I know what I am talking about. And no, hamzad is not a part of the soul, it is basically the soul's alter-ego. You can say, that like yin ang yang, you have a soul and a hamzad. And its power depends upon your own spiritual energy. The stronger the soul, the weaker the hamzad. Though, in some cases I have read that the stronger the soul, the stronger your alter ego, as yin ang yang are supposed to maintain an equilibrium. It is this being that is controlled, not Djinn/demons. And this mukual is the same thing.

but why would the soul carry a hamzaad? Soul isnt an out of balance entity,and dont need a yang.A weak soul does not lose its capabilities,they just become dormant.
I never heard of this alter ego theory

 

[sshah]

^ The universal concept of light and darkness. The thing is, nothing in universe can function without its own paradox. And we have our own. For day there is night, for life there is death, and even for emotions, you cannot truly feel anything unless you also have felt the opposing sensation.

 

[Gizmo]

So where did all this yin/yang soul stuff come from, I've never felt anything like in my entire life.ANd frankly speaking I think it's BS.

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creepy. I wonder why these demons/djinns always run across religious people though.

Maybe their souls are stronger or purer then the non religious dudes or maybe it's BS.

 

[CrashBandicoot]

^ The universal concept of light and darkness. The thing is, nothing in universe can function without its own paradox. And we have our own. For day there is night, for life there is death, and even for emotions, you cannot truly feel anything unless you also have felt the opposing sensation.

hmmmm... although i have sat with spirituals from all faiths and no faith..But never heard of an anti soul.

 

[sshah]

@Gizmo Well, if you ever read about universe and the general mystic philosophy (The original Buddhist one), the universe is considered to be a soul as well. It is basically a being of collective consciousness, energies, and is generally referred to as the True Soul, the universal soul, or even The Truth. It is supposed to have this bundle of opposing energies, the Yin and the Yang. Yin is the inactive, dark, and generally negative energy of the Universal soul. It is considered feminine. Yang is the opposite; it is the active, light, and positive energy of the soul, and is masculine.

As the original mystic philosophy goes, we, as spiritual beings are parasite souls and thus have this energy in us from the original soul. Therefore, the same rules apply to us as well. The yin is the darkness, and yang the light. Hope this explains it.

 

[CrashBandicoot]

@Gizmo Well, if you ever read about universe and the general mystic philosophy (The original Buddhist one), the universe is considered to be a soul as well. It is basically a being of collective consciousness, energies, and is generally referred to as the True Soul, the universal soul, or even The Truth. It is supposed to have this bundle of opposing energies, the Yin and the Yang. Yin is the inactive, dark, and generally negative energy of the Universal soul. It is considered feminine. Yang is the opposite; it is the active, light, and positive energy of the soul, and is masculine.

As the original mystic philosophy goes, we, as spiritual beings are parasite souls and thus have this energy in us from the original soul. Therefore, the same rules apply to us as well. The yin is the darkness, and yang the light. Hope this explains it.

Since i dont know what you are talking about and dont understand this theory you mention here...I will abandon this thread..
Lastly....A soul and a creature are two different things..Soul has no anti because soul comes from the Source..the Divine being..in the form of a direct order......Creature has an anti..all creatures have anti and opposite.....so that noone creature dominates and all get equal oppertunities..But same is not required for the soul as there is no competition..Our souls although different,are part of the much gretare picture and soul does not need material to survive and thrive,unlike the creatures who need matter and thus compete for the resources and to create balance their nemeis are needed....
This is the reason the soul is so powerful..it has direct link to the source,and while all Creatures will perish,Soul will live for ever.
Dont understand? Try the keyword "Whadat ul wujood". Have fun

 

[Blastwave]

@Gizmo Well, if you ever read about universe and the general mystic philosophy (The original Buddhist one), the universe is considered to be a soul as well. It is basically a being of collective consciousness, energies, and is generally referred to as the True Soul, the universal soul, or even The Truth. It is supposed to have this bundle of opposing energies, the Yin and the Yang. Yin is the inactive, dark, and generally negative energy of the Universal soul. It is considered feminine. Yang is the opposite; it is the active, light, and positive energy of the soul, and is masculine.

As the original mystic philosophy goes, we, as spiritual beings are parasite souls and thus have this energy in us from the original soul. Therefore, the same rules apply to us as well. The yin is the darkness, and yang the light. Hope this explains it.

Collective Consciousness = Scaring the hell out of scientists everywhere with experiments that end up scaring the hell out of scientists!

Doesn't matter what you believe, DOES.NOT.MATTER!... You're part of a Collective Consciousness !

 

[Crow]

It is basically a being of collective consciousness (...)

Don't you mean collective unconscious?

 

[sshah]

Since i dont know what you are talking about and dont understand this theory you mention here...I will abandon this thread..
Lastly....A soul and a creature are two different things..Soul has no anti because soul comes from the Source..the Divine being..in the form of a direct order......Creature has an anti..all creatures have anti and opposite.....so that noone creature dominates and all get equal oppertunities..But same is not required for the soul as there is no competition..Our souls although different,are part of the much gretare picture and soul does not need material to survive and thrive,unlike the creatures who need matter and thus compete for the resources and to create balance their nemeis are needed....
This is the reason the soul is so powerful..it has direct link to the source,and while all Creatures will perish,Soul will live for ever.
Dont understand? Try the keyword "Whadat ul wujood". Have fun

This wahat-ul-wujuad is exactly that; the Universal Soul, thought to be the original father/creator/source of countless spiritual/energy/emotions/consciousness. I have actually done a 5000+ word project on it, when I took Islamic studies. Though my knowledge on this subject is not extensive - I have read about 4 to 5 books, and plenty of analytical journals, articles - it is enough to warrant a discussion to negate religious and atheistic thought. I don't think you should leave the thread.

Collective Consciousness = Scaring the hell out of scientists everywhere with experiments that end up scaring the hell out of scientists!

Doesn't matter what you believe, DOES.NOT.MATTER!... You're part of a Collective Consciousness !

Exactly.

Don't you mean collective unconscious?

I don't quite follow.

 

[Crow]

I don't quite follow.

Collective unconscious - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[CrashBandicoot]

can somebody define the islamic concept of "Qalb" or Heart?
I have tried but couldn't understand it.
Its not the heart pumping blood,its some other thing..But what is it?

 

[omarko]

^its related to Sufism.

 

[CrashBandicoot]

^its related to Sufism.

I asked for a definition...not what "ism" it is related to.

 

[Blastwave]

Crash

Leave Omarko alone!