MULTI The Witcher 2 EE graphical comparison (PC/X360) - NO IMPROVED LIGHTING/ASSETS IN PC VERSION LOL

[Chandoo]

The gist of your posts. REALISTIC and NATURAL. Where I clearly showed you the reason why it seems NATURAL and REALISTIC. They removed the light sources and made the whole game more pale and dark. I am missing tons of detail in that dark room. Maybe its natural but better? I don't think so.

Why take my word for it, just look at the quotes I posted from digital freaking foundry
It's not like I've had hands on experience with the PC version either, I'm just taking their word for it too

 

[faraany3k]

ps i like how we went from "DUH THESE CHANGES WILL COME TO THE PC VERSION TOO" to outright defending the older lighting engine, nice one Tranny

Go back to my post a few pages ago way before these changes were mentioned. My exact word about new look was 'UNDERWHELMED'

 

[Chandoo]

Hell, the more important question that I asked above is whether the shitty depth of field is still the same too, cause that one picture from the DF article with the depth of field, that was far worse than this lighting change, cause YOU COULDN'T SEE SHIT in the old PC depth of field.

Go back to my post a few pages ago way before these changes were mentioned. My exact about new look was 'UNDERWHELMED'

Well clearly you are at odds with a lot of people on that case.

 

[Radical]

True. But the general assumption was that these things will all be reworked back in. I still imagine they WILL be later on, and then franny will forget all about this

Keeping the enhancements exclusive to 360 so that it sells! They worked hard on it, it's not a straight up shady port!

On PC, they can patch it in easily anytime they want (maybe with further improvements) ala Crysis 2's dx 11 patch!

I am glad for all the balance improvements on PC though, they were all required!

 

[faraany3k]

Here is the shot you are talking about I presume.

They simply removed the light source in this shot. The real world is pale and dark so 360 version is giving an impression of REALISM. While PC version has superior lighting and I can actually see stuff in it. CDPR are the experts at graphical trickery. Made 360 fans happy with more 'REALISTIC' look lol

 

[Chandoo]

Here is the shot you are talking about I presume.

They simply removed the light source in this shot.

Holy crap you just don't wanna believe anyone besides yourself do you lol, that's one of the things DF highlighted, that in the PC version characters are unnaturally illuminated..

in the original edition, there was definitely a sense that Geralt and company were somewhat unnaturally illuminated in order to make them pop out of darker surroundings; the difference now is that they appear to sit much more comfortably within the environments, with the addition - where necessary - of appropriately placed light sources.

DF are saying they ADDED light sources where necessary, to balance out the characters and make them fit better within the environments, so they don't stick out as brightly lit moving things lol.


here let me make it a bit easier for you .. look at this shot, it highlights both versions better points :

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Here you can clearly see the PC version has higher resolution textures, and better anti aliasing, but the lighting sticks out like a sore thumb, the dragon and all three characters in the foreground are so brightly lit ..

where as the 360 version has more refined lighting, the sunlight is brightening the dragon in the right places, and his back side that's in the shade is not unnaturally illuminated, same for the character models, they're "blending in" so much better into the environment. Doesn't take a fanboy or a tech expert to notice this difference.

 

[faraany3k]

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Yes 360 version here is vastly improved. Everyone should play this on the 360 as we cannot see the under side of dragon wings in broad daylight.

 

[Radical]

^ The wings look as they should look when in shade!

 

[Chandoo]

yeah its called HDR lighting, its employed with varying levels of results, don't let that be the judge of which version u play though if u got a PC, play it on a PC, if u got a 360, play it on 360 .. if u got both .. well i'd recommend 360 version personally

 

[faraany3k]

well i'd recommend 360 version personally

I am going through it right now. As i finished the PC version sometime ago. Gameplay wise both are the same. No problems there of course. I just don't get this improved lighting stuff you guys are talking about. Playing Witcher on console feel like the have removed the whole golden tint of Dues Ex and replaced it with shades of grey (and dark dragon wings). So realistic lol

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where as the 360 version has more refined lighting, the sunlight is brightening the dragon in the right places, and his back side that's in the shade is not unnaturally illuminated, same for the character models, they're "blending in" so much better into the environment. Doesn't take a fanboy or a tech expert to notice this difference.

Yes like if I am standing under a sun. There will be dark shadows around the back of me. Bro I seriously ask you to go outside and see how sunlight actually works. It looks like you remain in office all the day, and play games on 360 all night.

 

[Chandoo]

OMG franny are you for real lmao, ok ok just to indulge you once more, here let me use a real world example ..

do you see how all the sides of the buildings that aren't being hit with the sunlight are darker, and not unnaturally lit from all directions ?

notice how this is me knocking some sense into your one-track mind ?

notice how your arguments are completely invalid and you should probably just go on playing the 360 version instead of trying to defend a moot point anymore ?

kthx.

 

[omarko]

Yes like if I am standing under a sun. There will be dark shadows around the back of me. Bro I seriously ask you to go outside and see how sunlight actually works. It looks like you remain in office all the day, and play games on 360 all night.

Oh so you don't game during the night? And when you game during the day, you game outside, under the bright sun? :s

 

[Journeys End]

Holy crap you just don't wanna believe anyone besides yourself do you lol

srsly it took this much time for u to understand this lol

btw i have done a small walkthrough of the 360 ver and since i have played the PC on 1050p res,i think i m at a better position to judge the 2 compared to a certain member here.now lets be realistic,the PC ver is no doubt MUCH MUCH better in-terms of LOD,FPS,draw distance and shit BUT that said the 360 ver holds its own when it comes to stuff like lightning, DOF,use of blur and in those stuff its BETTER than the PC ver FACT!!!!PC fanboys plz GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON

 

[Atif]

My my this childish argument of 360 vs PC is still going on.... why i am not surprised. Lets be real both of these gaming platforms have their pros and cons so why argue over them? Get over this naive attitude please.

 

[Chandoo]

My my this childish argument of 360 vs PC is still going on.... why i am not surprised. Lets be real both of these gaming platforms have their pros and cons so why argue over them? Get over this naive attitude please.

You are in the thread titled "
Witcher 2 graphical comparison (PC/X360) "



what else are you expecting to happen in this thread ?


edit : im expecting a like for this post necro

 

[Necrokiller]

^there you go

Hell, the more important question that I asked above is whether the shitty depth of field is still the same too, cause that one picture from the DF article with the depth of field, that was far worse than this lighting change, cause YOU COULDN'T SEE SHIT in the old PC depth of field.

You still seem to be troubled by this so I'll address your concerns

There are several DoF settings which can be adjusted on PC. The X360 seems to be missing the bokeh DoF altogether. In the case you are talking about, it is a bit strong on PC but maybe thats how they intended it? Because these two screenshots are from the same position as well:

Its suppose to look like that. Google up bokeh DoF and you'll figure it out.

Spoiler: show

In most other cases, the X360 version suffers from the lack of bokeh DoF.

Too bad the DF analysis stops right at the beginning of Chap 1. I would've liked to see how the rest of the game holds up. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the lighting changes on the PC, if only for a change and to see how they translate to the high settings on PC.

 

[CerebralTiger]

"IF ONLY FOR A CHANGE" hahahaha salty PC gamers are salty :lol:

Update: We've now updated our PC build of The Witcher 2 and note that many of the 360 enhancements - specifically pad support, lighting and visuals - appear to be unchanged based on an initial playthrough of the Prologue. We've approached CD Projekt RED for comment.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-the-witcher-2-tech-analysis

As for you @faraany3k, your meltdowns are always a treat

You failed to notice another difference in that screenshot comparison you pointed out earlier on:

And how about this?

Asset quality and lighting are both clearly superior on the X360.

 

[omarko]

Stop playing with the thread title guys. >___<

 

[Necrokiller]

Stop playing with the thread title guys. >___<

Sir, yes Sir!

 

[faraany3k]

Should I start replying to comments made by my fellow PGers and one douchebag who mentioned his resolution (1050 something) which never comes into discussion as 360 is locked at some lower level.

Or we should all be happy cuz clealy the light source which @CerebralTiger has pointed out is no way contributing to the light scheme of the room strengthning my claim.
And @Chandoo comparing a Skycraper with a 15 to 20 feet variable dragon which cant block sunlight the way a blocky skyscrapper building does.

Clearly in the end. Its matter of perception and choice. I do believe though that CDPR should include a console like setting for PC so that we can see the difference. But there is certainly no point when PC is already superior.