[OT] .::The Official 3G/4G LTE Thread::.

[shaheerk]

[MENTION=36166]iNCEPTiON[/MENTION], I see you wrote on ProPakistani that they've enabled it for specific numbers. Did they give you a rollout strategy? As in, will more numbers be added by the day, or will this be it?

It's dumb they gave you the SIM if your number isn't eligible. It could mean they'll enable it for more numbers in the coming days, otherwise why would they give you a 4G sim if your number isn't eligible?

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[iNCEPTiON]

[MENTION=36166]iNCEPTiON[/MENTION], I see you wrote on ProPakistani that they've enabled it for specific numbers. Did they give you a rollout strategy? As in, will more numbers be added by the day, or will this be it?

It's dumb they gave you the SIM if your number isn't eligible. It could mean they'll enable it for more numbers in the coming days, otherwise why would they give you a 4G sim if your number isn't eligible?

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Yes that's what he said on the helpline that its enabled for specific numbers... But they will soon start the official launch.. Thats what helpline ppl said... Now when I went to Mobilink office, they asked me if u r a employee or got a msg, i said no but he said its okay i can give you 4G sim when its launch, u can use it.. It was nearly closing time so i couldnt speak to them thoroughly.. I will visit them tomorrow again.. I have paid for the replacement so it should work whatsoever...

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[iNCEPTiON]

No Warid 3G is working in my office too...

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[zafarabbasrizvi]

Warid, Zong, Telenor and Mobilink went for 4G, meanwhile Ufone Customers be like

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[ZuLQi]

I have heard that the new Huawei device that they're offering with the new logo and all is inferior in quality than the old one, is that true? Also can one get the old device at a lower price from non franchise shops in market?


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Ask for old one if they have stock of old they will give you old. And you can get free device if purchase 6 month package

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[iNCEPTiON]

[MENTION=10152]Leon[/MENTION]

Your phone doesn't support Band 5 on LTE .. So Telenor 4G wont work

4G bands

LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 7(2600), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)

 

[murtaza12]

[MENTION=36166]iNCEPTiON[/MENTION]


Forced network lock-on to Warid or Mobilink 4G isn't working either?

If 4G is dependent on the number, do you see any point in getting a SIM tomorrow or do I go sometime next week?


Also, my secondary phone has become a Samsung again lol. So, I popped my Telenor SIM into it, and a ServiceMode check shows that they are indeed using 5MHz of bandwidth for LTE only.
Got 17 Mbps today standing in front of a cell tower next to PTCL Exchange in Bahria.

 

[iNCEPTiON]

@iNCEPTiON


Forced network lock-on to Warid or Mobilink 4G isn't working either?

If 4G is dependent on the number, do you see any point in getting a SIM tomorrow or do I go sometime next week?


Also, my secondary phone has become a Samsung again lol. So, I popped my Telenor SIM into it, and a ServiceMode check shows that they are indeed using 5MHz of bandwidth for LTE only.
Got 17 Mbps today standing in front of a cell tower next to PTCL Exchange in Bahria.

Checked connecting to Warid but that doesn't work too ..

It is indeed good to get the sim , they said it would work for everyone in a few days ... so lets see what happens.. Telenor Is shit.. I am not using it anymore

 

[murtaza12]

Checked connecting to Warid but that doesn't work too ..

It is indeed good to get the sim , they said it would work for everyone in a few days ... so lets see what happens.. Telenor Is shit.. I am not using it anymore

I'll hold off it then, until it becomes official for everyone, next week then. I just asked the Mobilink Live Chat guy, and he just said they're not providing SIMs to customers, and we will be notified by text when the SIMs become available to the general public.

As for the number dependent LTE thing, I doubt BIS users are on priority, because as you said BIS is only for BB OS 7 devices, no BB OS 7 device even supports LTE, so they may just activate LTE for them later, or not at all.

Telenor's data counter is shit, it tells me all sorts of different information at the same time, I was using it as a hotspot, a message comes saying 'You have been given 100 MB free', then another saying 'Ap default rate par internet istemaal kar rahain hain', then ANOTHER saying 'Aap ko 750 MB free 4G internet diya gya hai', and then dialing *999# shows that I have 1GB left from my 1.5GB bundle, yet a balance check (before hotspot) showed 900 rs balance, and after turning the hotspot off, it said 630 rs.
Two mins later, another message comes up saying your bundle has expired.

How did I manage to go through 1.7GB so quickly when I was just using the 4G as a hotspot for browsing? I wasn't even downloading anything. So they took 300 rs of my balance and now I don't feel like renewing their data bundles again cause their service is so shit.

I use that number for PG marketplace and OLX, and whenever people call me on it, I call them back from my Mobilink number cause Telenor's call quality is absolute shit. It still stutters even with full bars.

 

[iNCEPTiON]

I'll hold off it then, until it becomes official for everyone, next week then. I just asked the Mobilink Live Chat guy, and he just said they're not providing SIMs to customers, and we will be notified by text when the SIMs become available to the general public.

As for the number dependent LTE thing, I doubt BIS users are on priority, because as you said BIS is only for BB OS 7 devices, no BB OS 7 device even supports LTE, so they may just activate LTE for them later, or not at all. [emoji14]

Telenor's data counter is shit, it tells me all sorts of different information at the same time, I was using it as a hotspot, a message comes saying 'You have been given 100 MB free', then another saying 'Ap default rate par internet istemaal kar rahain hain', then ANOTHER saying 'Aap ko 750 MB free 4G internet diya gya hai', and then dialing *999# shows that I have 1GB left from my 1.5GB bundle, yet a balance check (before hotspot) showed 900 rs balance, and after turning the hotspot off, it said 630 rs.
Two mins later, another message comes up saying your bundle has expired.

How did I manage to go through 1.7GB so quickly when I was just using the 4G as a hotspot for browsing? I wasn't even downloading anything. So they took 300 rs of my balance and now I don't feel like renewing their data bundles again cause their service is so shit.

I use that number for PG marketplace and OLX, and whenever people call me on it, I call them back from my Mobilink number cause Telenor's call quality is absolute shit. It still stutters even with full bars.

I got the sim from blue area office... The guy first said that from tomorrow u will get the sims, and then he stopped me and said u can take the sim now

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[murtaza12]

I got the sim from blue area office... The guy first said that from tomorrow u will get the sims, and then he stopped me and said u can take the sim now

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3G trials on Warid not working for me either. Only for those who got the text I guess.

Tried forcing 3G and setting the phone to 2G/3G (Auto), and it refuses to connect.

 

[iNCEPTiON]

3G trials on Warid not working for me either. Only for those who got the text I guess.

Tried forcing 3G and setting the phone to 2G/3G (Auto), and it refuses to connect.

Same.. I THINK ITS ONLY FOR USERS WHO GOT MSGS

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[shaheerk]

Yes that's what he said on the helpline that its enabled for specific numbers... But they will soon start the official launch.. Thats what helpline ppl said... Now when I went to Mobilink office, they asked me if u r a employee or got a msg, i said no but he said its okay i can give you 4G sim when its launch, u can use it.. It was nearly closing time so i couldnt speak to them thoroughly.. I will visit them tomorrow again.. I have paid for the replacement so it should work whatsoever...

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My contact in Mobilink told me some days back that they were going to start trials soon (this was on Monday) amongst the employees. Maybe that's why specific numbers have the ability to use 4G whilst the rest don't?

But if you say that Mobilink says customers can begin using 4G in a few days, then I'm not sure what's going on.

And if that ProPakistani screenshot is anything to go by, maybe it's not worth it? I mean - you get similar speeds on 3G too! I don't know how their back haul has been configured (I.we. Whether they're going through Warid, or have their own arrangement) given that Mobilink 4G and Warid 4g have the same signal strength, similar to Warid 3g and Mobilink 3g.

I mean - if this is some pseudo-roaming, I wonder how it'll pan out.

Also, a quick reminder that Zong had their speeds increased gradually, and not from day one. They were hovering around 10mbps the day I bought their 4G SIM (back when they launched it). Maybe Mobilink will undergo a similar phase?

Also, I'm really eager to know how they're going to manage the spectrum allocation (they can't just use each other's exact frequencies for two different services - they'll have to enable some roaming thing, or use adjoining frequencies so that overlaps don't exist) and what'll happen in the end is anybody's guess, because as I see it:

2100Mhz: 10Mhz (shared with Warid 3g)
1800Mhz: 6 (Mobilink 2g) +8.8 (Warid 2g/3g) = 14.8Mhz available.

Given that the 6Mhz is not tech-neutral and assuming Mobilink is using all of it, they'll have to add additional 4G towers to overcome any potential spectrum shortage once all Warid customers are shifted onto Mobilink's network.

But if they shift all Warid customers, then what's the point of keeping 410 07 in the airwaves? But also, if they shift Warid, then they'll have a little more of that 8.8Mhz spectrum available for use (they say Warid is using 5Mhz, and there's no official word on this either, so the remaining 3.8Mhz - used for their voice - will be spared since nobody would be on 410 07).

Because I'm not a radio engineer, my comprehension skills stop here.

Also, I'm not sure why, but I think all Warid customers will be moved over to Mobilink, or 410 07 will have some sharing or something going on...because they really can't use the same frequencies in the same cluster, so they'll have to use adjoining frequencies for the different MNC MCC, in a given cluster, to avoid interference. Some spectrum changes just might take place here.

As I said, I'm going to stop here since this is above my pay grade.

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[epakistani]

you need to activate 3g on warid prior to using it. There is a simple hack to it call 321 to activate 3g and tell them that you are in islamabad voila activated.
And it is not for specific numbers.

 

[iNCEPTiON]

you need to activate 3g on warid prior to using it. There is a simple hack to it call 321 to activate 3g and tell them that you are in islamabad voila activated.
And it is not for specific numbers.

I called 321 and they said we cannot activate 3G as its testing phase.. WTF

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[iNCEPTiON]

My contact in Mobilink told me some days back that they were going to start trials soon (this was on Monday) amongst the employees. Maybe that's why specific numbers have the ability to use 4G whilst the rest don't?

But if you say that Mobilink says customers can begin using 4G in a few days, then I'm not sure what's going on.

And if that ProPakistani screenshot is anything to go by, maybe it's not worth it? I mean - you get similar speeds on 3G too! I don't know how their back haul has been configured (I.we. Whether they're going through Warid, or have their own arrangement) given that Mobilink 4G and Warid 4g have the same signal strength, similar to Warid 3g and Mobilink 3g.

I mean - if this is some pseudo-roaming, I wonder how it'll pan out.

Also, a quick reminder that Zong had their speeds increased gradually, and not from day one. They were hovering around 10mbps the day I bought their 4G SIM (back when they launched it). Maybe Mobilink will undergo a similar phase?

Also, I'm really eager to know how they're going to manage the spectrum allocation (they can't just use each other's exact frequencies for two different services - they'll have to enable some roaming thing, or use adjoining frequencies so that overlaps don't exist) and what'll happen in the end is anybody's guess, because as I see it:

2100Mhz: 10Mhz (shared with Warid 3g)
1800Mhz: 6 (Mobilink 2g) +8.8 (Warid 2g/3g) = 14.8Mhz available.

Given that the 6Mhz is not tech-neutral and assuming Mobilink is using all of it, they'll have to add additional 4G towers to overcome any potential spectrum shortage once all Warid customers are shifted onto Mobilink's network.

But if they shift all Warid customers, then what's the point of keeping 410 07 in the airwaves? But also, if they shift Warid, then they'll have a little more of that 8.8Mhz spectrum available for use (they say Warid is using 5Mhz, and there's no official word on this either, so the remaining 3.8Mhz - used for their voice - will be spared since nobody would be on 410 07).

Because I'm not a radio engineer, my comprehension skills stop here.

Also, I'm not sure why, but I think all Warid customers will be moved over to Mobilink, or 410 07 will have some sharing or something going on...because they really can't use the same frequencies in the same cluster, so they'll have to use adjoining frequencies for the different MNC MCC, in a given cluster, to avoid interference. Some spectrum changes just might take place here.

As I said, I'm going to stop here since this is above my pay grade.

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I agree but when 3G was launched and Mobilink 3G was worse at the launch ... But now they are the best...

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[epakistani]

I called 321 and they said we cannot activate 3G as its testing phase.. WTF

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Call again i activated mine in hyderabad my friend in warid told me this hack he got it activated in larkana. Try it couple of times with different csr.

Noobs at call centre you know how they are.

 

[iNCEPTiON]

Call again i activated mine in hyderabad my friend in warid told me this hack he got it activated in larkana. Try it couple of times with different csr.

Noobs at call centre you know how they are.

yep.. I actually spoke to supervisor and he did it for me but Mobilink 4G is not working for me

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[iNCEPTiON]

Mobilink 3G same location on my Mobilink sim

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[shaheermahand95]

So, I was going through my bill and found this.
P.s. Date for LTE consumer starts from 11/11 to 13/11 (my month end)

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