[OT] .::The Official 3G/4G LTE Thread::.

[shaheerk]

I don't think he's referring to the ping variances - he's referring to my discovery (that websites within Pakistan are taking just as long as international websites are taking to ping, impacting domestic VOIP the most).

Wireless will always have an inherent fluctuation in ping - it's just that this a variance between 10ms and 200ms!

 

[shaheerk]

Early Morning 4G speed tests.

Jazz 15 MHz 4G

Zong 15 MHz 4G

Telenor 5 MHz 4G

Zong is still a speed king in terms of download speed but Jazz provides better uploading as compare to Zong. Overall both networks are great and competitive. While Telenor is still providing 3G level speed on 4G.

That's because the signal (where you tested) propagates differently for different operators. Can't say Telenor is crap because the signals are likely not at the same level as Zong's or Mobilink's.

And in other areas, I'm sure Telenor would have much better signals than Zong or Mobilink, and so, your 15Mhz would be useless whereas 5Mhz would give you 20+Mbps speeds.

The spectrum is only useful for those with great signal (more downloads) and operators who don't have as many towers (because it allows greater capacity on the same tower). Unless you're Telenor - in which case, nobody knows what they're doing with their 4G (but it works - they just haven't enabled blanket coverage unlike the others).

 

[iNCEPTiON]

I don't think he's referring to the ping variances - he's referring to my discovery (that websites within Pakistan are taking just as long as international websites are taking to ping, impacting domestic VOIP the most).

Wireless will always have an inherent fluctuation in ping - it's just that this a variance between 10ms and 200ms!

I am actually talking abt the online gaming

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[zafarabbasrizvi]

That's because the signal (where you tested) propagates differently for different operators. Can't say Telenor is crap because the signals are likely not at the same level as Zong's or Mobilink's.

And in other areas, I'm sure Telenor would have much better signals than Zong or Mobilink, and so, your 15Mhz would be useless whereas 5Mhz would give you 20+Mbps speeds.

The spectrum is only useful for those with great signal (more downloads) and operators who don't have as many towers (because it allows greater capacity on the same tower). Unless you're Telenor - in which case, nobody knows what they're doing with their 4G (but it works - they just haven't enabled blanket coverage unlike the others).

Telenor never goes beyond 13 Mbps whereever I checked in Faisalabad except for one place where it gors to 28 Mbps. And secondly Telenor's 4G coverage isn't all over the city. Even Warid 4G (currently Jazz) has more coverage than Telenor 4G.

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[shaheerk]

Telenor never goes beyond 13 Mbps whereever I checked in Faisalabad except for one place where it gors to 28 Mbps. And secondly Telenor's 4G coverage isn't all over the city. Even Warid 4G (currently Jazz) has more coverage than Telenor 4G.

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Yeah, I noticed Warid and Zong have way better coverage than Telenor.

PTA, IIRC, set a guideline - that all operators must cover 90% of the country with 4G signals by the fourth year of their license grant. I really don't know how Telenor intends to meet that guideline.

 

[zafarabbasrizvi]

Just visited Fiberlink office Faisalabad. And here are my findings.

1. First they rented a house in a posh area which even didn't have house no. displayed besides gate nor they hanged any fiberlink signboard or even a flex. It was hard to find their OFFICE so I had to call them and I was apparently just outside their house SORRY office. A security guard in civil dress opened gate and take me to a room with table and chairs only. (I think they did it intentionally to hide themselves from commercial tax).

2. Their facebook page is misguiding people, if you ask them for a graveyard they even told you their network is available there.

When I ask about coverage in my area it fell 1.5 KM short in reality when they told me on facebook that its available here. And they will cover my area in next 2 months according to a person who deal me.

3. They are not expanding coverage underground. Instead they are spreading fiber cables through poles like PTCL all over the city. This is why they have expanded around 40% of the city in few months only and they intend to expand 80% of the city in next 6 months.

4. Their approach is like a local cable internet provider. They even give connection at places where coverage is not already available if some one offer them 3-4 connections. For single connection one has to wait for coverage expansion.

5. They will fully provide fiber cable to fiberlink device in your house. But you have to install a WiFi router worth 1500 in order to make it wireless.

6. Their installation charges are 5,000 and 12 Mbps connection costs 2,050 including tax with unlimited downloading. So you should have atleast 7,100 to get their connection. Installation cost could be saved by depositing full year's subscription in advance.

7. Their installation time is very very long. It could take 30 days for installation which they claim official time. I think they first visit area and make feasibility that how much cable will require to install a connection. Than they send it to Karachi for approval where some lazy ass officials took so long to approve and than local office installs connection. And this whole process takes 30 days or may be a week more.

If you are lucky enough and their cable is already passing in front of your house you could get connection within 20 days.


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So for me if a company like Nayatel gets marry to a company like local internet cable they will give birth to a company like Fiberlink. Because they are like local cable walas with insane speed on FTTH cable net.

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[zakiuddin]

Just visited Fiberlink office Faisalabad. And here are my findings.

1. First they rented a house in a posh area which even didn't have house no. displayed besides gate nor they hanged any fiberlink signboard or even a flex. It was hard to find their OFFICE so I had to call them and I was apparently just outside their house SORRY office. A security guard in civil dress opened gate and take me to a room with table and chairs only. (I think they did it intentionally to hide themselves from commercial tax).

2. Their facebook page is misguiding people, if you ask them for a graveyard they even told you their network is available there.

When I ask about coverage in my area it fell 1.5 KM short in reality when they told me on facebook that its available here. And they will cover my area in next 2 months according to a person who deal me.

3. They are not expanding coverage underground. Instead they are spreading fiber cables through poles like PTCL all over the city. This is why they have expanded around 40% of the city in few months only and they intend to expand 80% of the city in next 6 months.

4. Their approach is like a local cable internet provider. They even give connection at places where coverage is not already available if some one offer them 3-4 connections. For single connection one has to wait for coverage expansion.

5. They will fully provide fiber cable to fiberlink device in your house. But you have to install a WiFi router worth 1500 in order to make it wireless.

6. Their installation charges are 5,000 and 12 Mbps connection costs 2,050 including tax with unlimited downloading. So you should have atleast 7,100 to get their connection. Installation cost could be saved by depositing full year's subscription in advance.

7. Their installation time is very very long. It could take 30 days for installation which they claim official time. I think they first visit area and make feasibility that how much cable will require to install a connection. Than they send it to Karachi for approval where some lazy ass officials took so long to approve and than local office installs connection. And this whole process takes 30 days or may be a week more.

If you are lucky enough and their cable is already passing in front of your house you could get connection within 20 days.


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So for me if a company like Nayatel gets marry to a company like local internet cable they will give birth to a company like Fiberlink. Because they are like local cable walas with insane speed on FTTH cable net.

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so the ptcl fuys that put up cables on electric poles are fiber ? wow, they are putting so much cables on the main road, front of my home, but exchange guys dont know about it, in my case the cables are very thick i dont think that they are fiber, or are they ?

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[zafarabbasrizvi]

so the ptcl fuys that put up cables on electric poles are fiber ? wow, they are putting so much cables on the main road, front of my home, but exchange guys dont know about it, in my case the cables are very thick i dont think that they are fiber, or are they ?

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I am talking about fiberlink not PTCL. And PTCL and has changed its copper wires. New wires or twice thicker tham old ones and are of white color from inside than gold.

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[zakiuddin]

I am talking about fiberlink not PTCL. And PTCL and has changed its copper wires. New wires or twice thicker tham old ones and are of white color from inside than gold.

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i am asking about ptcl, do they put fiber wires over electrical poles, or coppr wires or something else ?

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[zafarabbasrizvi]

i am asking about ptcl, do they put fiber wires over electrical poles, or coppr wires or something else ?

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No PTCL only put copper wires on poles.

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[khanorak]

Telenor 3G // 850MHz Band

Spoiler: show

Telenor 4G // 850MHz @5MHz bandwidth

Spoiler: show

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[kafeelazam]

Jazz 3g peak times, not so impressive, but will do, i have activated 75gb package, and 15mhz 4g is coming on 25th oct [emoji16]

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What about Karachi what's your source on 25th October

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[zakiuddin]

What about Karachi what's your source on 25th October

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dont know about karachi, but franchise guy has told me about the launch of 15mhz 4g at 25 Oct, and jazz network as a whole and their 3g is also so much improved now at my place, if the 4g launched on 25th i will definitely share speeds, but i will also be leaving for job at 25th so lets see,

and jazz network in khi is total mess, it is really bad, they will take ages to upgrade that i bet!

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[shaheerk]

I've done a few speed tests on 3G in Islamabad - and it looks like they've turned off DC HSPA+ in the main areas (D Watson, Blue Area, and Jinnah Super are two areas I tested). And what is it, I have no idea. I say this because speeds aren't going over 8 or 9Mbps (which isn't bad, but isn't exactly "tez tareen internet" either, relatively speaking) and more and more areas are not switching over to DC HSPA+.

It's silly they would do this, since this is supposed to help capacity.

I had this thought that perhaps they could refarm a bit of their 2100Mhz bandwidth (they have 5+5) for 4G and CA? Then they'll have 20Mhz. But I doubt it - they can't get their existing network fixed. But let's wait till the 25th of October.

Zong, at least, is consistent in this regard. But the data balance issue...

Speaking of which, two questions:
- Zong: does the balance vanish when you're using data, or even when you're not using data?
- Somebody else was asking this: does Telenor have 3G coverage on the Rawalpindi/Islamabad motorway? Is it everywhere (like 90%), or only on the service stations?

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[zakiuddin]

I've done a few speed tests on 3G in Islamabad - and it looks like they've turned off DC HSPA+ in the main areas (D Watson, Blue Area, and Jinnah Super are two areas I tested). And what is it, I have no idea. I say this because speeds aren't going over 8 or 9Mbps (which isn't bad, but isn't exactly "tez tareen internet" either, relatively speaking) and more and more areas are not switching over to DC HSPA+.

It's silly they would do this, since this is supposed to help capacity.

I had this thought that perhaps they could refarm a bit of their 2100Mhz bandwidth (they have 5+5) for 4G and CA? Then they'll have 20Mhz. But I doubt it - they can't get their existing network fixed. But let's wait till the 25th of October.

Zong, at least, is consistent in this regard. But the data balance issue...

Speaking of which, two questions:
- Zong: does the balance vanish when you're using data, or even when you're not using data?
- Somebody else was asking this: does Telenor have 3G coverage on the Rawalpindi/Islamabad motorway? Is it everywhere (like 90%), or only on the service stations?

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recently i used lahore to islamabad motorway, jazz was really constant, where as telenor was jumping around, couldnt check zong thoug

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[shaheerk]

recently i used lahore to islamabad motorway, jazz was really constant, where as telenor was jumping around, couldnt check zong thoug

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By "jumping around", do you mean between 3G and 4G?

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[zakiuddin]

By "jumping around", do you mean between 3G and 4G?

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lol no,i didnt find any 4g their, it was jumping around between 2g/3g, but man jazz didnt shift to 2g not once, and i am expecting zong to be the same as jazz cuz they were the very first to cover whole motorway

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[shaheerk]

Hey [MENTION=42544]murtaza12[/MENTION], Telenor band 3. Jinnah Super parking lot (facing Blue Area).

Pretty decent. Doubt they're using CA - but looks like they're trying. The phone didn't fall back to band 5 for some unknown reason.

Unfortunately, I couldn't check the amount of spectrum in use - but I think it's 5Mhz (given the download speed). Uploads, however, are a bit lacking (which isn't really a serious concern unless you're uploading something).

Not bad.

This above result was a little misleading - but the speedometer (top right of the screen) showed 1.4MB/s at the end.

This above showed 1.5MB/s just before the uploads began.

This was on 3G. For fun. This was on band 5.

I'll BRB after doing a random Mobilink 4G test here... Tapatalk and the Nexus 5X don't like multitasking a lot.

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Edit: Mobilink 4G. It peaked to 1.7MB/s, but averaged between 1.5 and 1.6MB/s (had to tilt my phone a bit). Didn't let the upload finish, but it was the standard 1MB/s average speeds. So they're similar in this spot, at least.

Telenor is doing something, it seems. Just not sure what. Maybe the money they're saving by closing the service centers is being used to do stuff with their network? They better improve their 4G coverage and fix the 3G black holes.

 

[shaheerk]

lol no,i didnt find any 4g their, it was jumping around between 2g/3g, but man jazz didnt shift to 2g not once, and i am expecting zong to be the same as jazz cuz they were the very first to cover whole motorway

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I know Zong didn't jump around much - it was consistent. Same goes for Jazz. But thanks for your response.

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[murtaza12]

[MENTION=63376]shaheerk[/MENTION]

Well, that was underwhelming. When I saw the Gmail notification saying Telenor Band 3, I was expecting something along the lines of 20-30 Mbps.

I don't think it's 5 MHz since [MENTION=4474]ShuAK[/MENTION] who is in I-8/2 checked Telenor Band 3 LTE and they're only using 3 MHz there.