PG's OFFICAL 3D TV / LED / LCD THREAD

[9Meez]

Some people, usually visually impaired, suffer more from eye strain as compared to others.

I have ES6200 40" which came with 2 glasses, most definitely the same as your friends, and have this LED installed in my hostel room, and from a wide variety of viewers, I can tell you that the eye strain (keeping everything constant) varies from person to person, right from feeling nothing (me! ) to a friend who felt extremely nauseous, and he wasn't able to view even for a bit longer!

The price difference is more likely to be due to provision of warranties (local, international, none!). Method of import (smuggling! ) and other various reasons.
By the way, the choice of enjoying a 3D content is very subjective. Some adore it, others can't stand it!
Personally I like it, but it's charm is in viewing only good content in 3D.

hmm, I understand it varies from person to person... But normally I never had eye stress as I had watched many 3d movies in Cinemas as well...But I am sure the glasses came with this specific model are not of a reliable quality as of Sony's...CAn we purchase a separate pair of glasses live Nividia or anyother with Samsung???

 

[XecutionerX]

hmm, I understand it varies from person to person... But normally I never had eye stress as I had watched many 3d movies in Cinemas as well...But I am sure the glasses came with this specific model are not of a reliable quality as of Sony's...CAn we purchase a separate pair of glasses live Nividia or anyother with Samsung???

Are these 4100-GBW?. I use the same, no eye stress for me, even after 12 consecutive hours usage!.
Btw the new standard for 3D glasses is 'Full HD 3D' you can use those... Sony and Samsung are not interchangeable, as the former uses Infrared, while Samsung uses Bluetooth.

 

[9Meez]

Are these 4100-GBW?. I use the same, no eye stress for me, even after 12 consecutive hours usage!.
Btw the new standard for 3D glasses is 'Full HD 3D' you can use those... Sony and Samsung are not interchangeable, as the former uses Infrared, while Samsung uses Bluetooth.

YEs Exactly these are 4100-GBW....Well wt i think it also depends how good is the quality of a 3d content.....? But I just googled active shutter Vs. Passive POlarized glasses... And the thing I came to know is Passive Polarized glasses are more reliable and also inexpensive as well...

 

[XecutionerX]

YEs Exactly these are 4100-GBW....Well wt i think it also depends how good is the quality of a 3d content.....? But I just googled active shutter Vs. Passive POlarized glasses... And the thing I came to know is Passive Polarized glasses are more reliable and also inexpensive as well...

Though passive ain't full HD & lack in clarity too!
And yeah, the content matters too. View some other stuff on your friend's led before buying yourself

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[9Meez]

Though passive ain't full HD & lack in clarity too!
And yeah, the content matters too. View some other stuff on your friend's led before buying yourself

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Yeah Definitely I will have a look at some other content as well on my friend;s TV...Coz its a huge investment for future gaming and movies and also i Want to have a screen minimum 46 inches...ALso i 'll chk out LG as well in Passive technology..ANyways Thanks Brother..Tc.

 

[CerebralTiger]

But I just googled active shutter Vs. Passive POlarized glasses... And the thing I came to know is Passive Polarized glasses are more reliable and also inexpensive as well...

Passive 3D also results in less eye strain. If you're unsure whether to go for an active or a passive 3DTV, you're going to have to consider the shortcomings of either technology:

a. More eye strain and crosstalk on active 3DTVs
b. Lower resolution on passive 3DTVs

Passive 3DTVs are more popular among the masses due to the above reasons. Most people don't notice/care about the drop in resolution. It is for this reason that Sony has switched to passive 3D for most of their 2013 TVs.

 

[9Meez]

Passive 3D also results in less eye strain. If you're unsure whether to go for an active or a passive 3DTV, you're going to have to consider the shortcomings of either technology:

a. More eye strain and crosstalk on active 3DTVs
b. Lower resolution on passive 3DTVs

Passive 3DTVs are more popular among the masses due to the above reasons. Most people don't notice/care about the drop in resolution. It is for this reason that Sony has switched to passive 3D for most of their 2013 TVs.

Hmm Thnx... I will go for a smoother 3d vision rather than to have eye stress or headaches etc....( in most cases u know ). Of course resolution does get lower in Passive but its alrite, We have the option as well to see in 2D for Full HD resolution...Well my vote so far is with Passive Tvs...

 

[XecutionerX]

Passive 3D also results in less eye strain. If you're unsure whether to go for an active or a passive 3DTV, you're going to have to consider the shortcomings of either technology:

a. More eye strain and crosstalk on active 3DTVs
b. Lower resolution on passive 3DTVs

Passive 3DTVs are more popular among the masses due to the above reasons. Most people don't notice/care about the drop in resolution. It is for this reason that Sony has switched to passive 3D for most of their 2013 TVs.

c. No battery requirement in case of passive
d. Cheaper spare glasses, another win for passive

*Active being bulky, is more like irrelevant now

What's your opinion on what's better?
Have you felt much difference in case of resolution?
I went with active, for resolution's sake. But cross-talk prevents me from loving it. About battery requirement, that's so so


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[9Meez]

Yes i have also gone through with both screens... If u have used PAssive before and then go for active ...trust me u will never like them,,,,Coz there is a continuous flicker between ur eyes and ultimately u will try to get rid of these glasses coz of stress...Whereas Passive is as smooth as u watch in 2d ...u 'll not get a feel of anything wearing on ur face.. This is the reason 3-D cinemas are also using Passive.. Coz glasses are cheap, plus u can interchange them with any passive 3D Tv.:wink2:

 

[XecutionerX]

Yes i have also gone through with both screens... If u have used PAssive before and then go for active ...trust me u will never like them,,,,Coz there is a continuous flicker between ur eyes and ultimately u will try to get rid of these glasses coz of stress...Whereas Passive is as smooth as u watch in 2d ...u 'll not get a feel of anything wearing on ur face.. This is the reason 3-D cinemas are also using Passive.. Coz glasses are cheap, plus u can interchange them with any passive 3D Tv.:wink2:

Flicker's is as much as completely gone in latest sets, but cross-talk needs more improvement.

 

[CerebralTiger]

I went with active, for resolution's sake. But cross-talk prevents me from loving it. About battery requirement, that's so so

I opted for an active 3DTV for the same reason, but crosstalk turned out to be a significant distraction from the immersion that 3D otherwise brings. I literally have to turn down the 3D strength/separation a couple of notches in order to view a sharp picture that is free of ghosting.

*Active being bulky, is more like irrelevant now

Indeed, passive 3D glasses are much lighter. Although there are less bulky active 3D glasses (compared to the earlier ones) available these days. For example, I use this one on my active 3DTV:

What's your opinion on what's better?
Have you felt much difference in case of resolution?

It mainly depends on the kind of content you are viewing. For 3D movies, passive 3D is recommended. The drop in resolution from actual 1080p to 1920x540 isn't very significant, and much more preferable in the absence of crosstalk/eye strain. On the other hand, as far as 3D gaming is concerned, a 60Hz refresh rate is currently only available at 720p (unless we're talking about 4K TVs). In the case of passive 3DTVs, that 720p is actually 1280x360, which is a bit too low-res for my liking. Although, personal preferences may vary in this regard.

It is possible to play games in 3D at 1920x540/60Hz using the row interleaved method on the PC, but unfortunately, Nvidia doesn't support it via 3D Vision. Therefore, you'll have to rely on an alternate app known as Tridef in order to get it working. The number of supported games will be fairly limited, though, because Tridef doesn't work with DirectX11 (DX9 only, unfortunately).

So, long story short, unless you don't mind 3D gaming at a resolution of 1280x360, you're better off with an active 3DTV.

The difference in resolution or image quality is visible if you're viewing distance is closer to the screen. If you view it from a little farther away, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between active and passive.

Gaming aside, generally speaking, the truth is that when it comes to stereo 3D, image quality should be the last of one's concerns. So if its movies you're primarily looking to watch, go with a passive 3D display.

 

[sheeraz]

from where can i get extra passive 3d glasses for ecostar 3d LED?

 

[mehmood115]

Can anyone tell me that LG 32" LM5800 3D works with ATI 5xxx series graphics card for gaming in 3D and for Bluray 3D movies ?

 

[9Meez]

Guys @ CerebralTiger @ XecutionerX Which of the following You recommend from
1. Samsung 46ES6200
OR
2. LG 47LM5800

I would prefer Passive 3D with LG, but I can't avail Smart TV options which are with Samsung like Wifi, 400 Hz (CMR), Full Web Browser. In LG i am only having like 120Hz (Tru Motion) with 4 passive Glasses. Wt do u suggest... My budget is only upto 130K. Or do u suggest anyother TV better than these in my mentioned Price range...Thanks...

 

[CerebralTiger]

Guys @ CerebralTiger @ XecutionerX Which of the following You recommend from
1. Samsung 46ES6200
OR
2. LG 47LM5800.

For this, I'll have to ask you what your primary preference is - movies or games?

If it's movies with some occasional 3D gaming, then definitely go for the LG 47LM5800. However, if you're mainly getting it to play 3D game and 3D movies aren't first priority, then go for the Samsung 46ES6200. They're both great TVs, but for watching 3 hour long movies in 3D, it's only practical to go with a passive 3DTV.

If you can wait 4-5 months (and increase your budget a bit), Sony's upcoming 50R550A is going to be a better option than the LG 47LM5800. It's a passive 3DTV, and will boast a significant improvement in 3D picture quality over previous generation TVs.

 

[9Meez]

If you can wait 4-5 months (and increase your budget a bit), Sony's upcoming 50R550A is going to be a better option than the LG 47LM5800. It's a passive 3DTV, and will boast a significant improvement in 3D picture quality over previous generation TVs.

Hmm Thnx for Suggestion Bro... Actually My Interests are both for gaming and Movies...But of course a movie is about 2 hours and I don't want to remove glasses in the middle of it, due to flickering or eye stress ( you know in case of active Shutter glasses). But as you mentioned about the upcoming model, definitely i "ll wait for it. Coz if u gonna invest, then have something more better...TC...

 

[Mephisto]

Need help guys


I'm thinking of buying the Samsung 50" LED 50ES5500 (Samsung LED TV 50 Inches 50ES5500 (01 Year Service) in Pakistan) however I noticed something that I would need explanation on.

It has 100Hz CMR (Clear Motion Rate). Is that good or bad? What is this 100Hz CMR compared to Refresh Rate?

I will be primarily using it for gaming and want to make sure I dont blur problem etc - I was first thinking on the 46" 3D LED 46ES6200 (Samsung LED 3D TV 46 Inches 46ES6200 (01 Year Services) in Pakistan) but its going a little out of my budget. If the above 50" isnt good for gaming - I might just go for the 46" 3D in a month or two. Or I might buy a 46" Regular LED.

 

[Mephisto]

^ So no one can help

 

[9Meez]

Need help guys


I'm thinking of buying the Samsung 50" LED 50ES5500 (Samsung LED TV 50 Inches 50ES5500 (01 Year Service) in Pakistan) however I noticed something that I would need explanation on.

It has 100Hz CMR (Clear Motion Rate). Is that good or bad? What is this 100Hz CMR compared to Refresh Rate?

I will be primarily using it for gaming and want to make sure I dont blur problem etc - I was first thinking on the 46" 3D LED 46ES6200 (Samsung LED 3D TV 46 Inches 46ES6200 (01 Year Services) in Pakistan) but its going a little out of my budget. If the above 50" isnt good for gaming - I might just go for the 46" 3D in a month or two. Or I might buy a 46" Regular LED.

AOA, Bro i would recommend for 46ES6200. I mean if u r spending 100K on 50ES5500, increases ur budget a bit about 19k and get 3D LED 46ES6200 of 400Hz. And CMR and refresh rate is a same thing.
Also I would suggest you to look upon LG 47LM5800. (same price of 46ES6200)

 

[Dark Sith]

i still have yet to see any good movie in proper 3d ..i mean with effects that are mind blwoing --------sorry but thats my opinion --anime are great but no movies ----

some one shed some light on this .