[SOLVED] [NBA] Need suggestions and opinions on this quotation for gaming rig

[taimoorali007]

AoA Guyz, Hope you all are fine. Im just about to build a rig and these are components m adding:

i5 6600K
Asus B150 PRO Mobo
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2400MHz Memory Kit
Corsair H55 Liquid Cooler
Asus Strix 970 4GB
Corsair 200R Carbide
Corsair CS 650W
Caviar Black 1Tb (already owned it)
3x CM SickleFlow 120mm fans

If anything causing bottlenecking correct me here.

Important queries:
1. Is ATX necessary or mATX gaming can work better or simple non gaming mobo also do better?
2. PSU is Gold 80PLUS but in this price i can get 750 Bronze, what's better?
3. Corsair memory gonna make some diff to performance over normal sticks?

My gaming is not 1080p or 4k, my display is 1366x768 i just need fps. soon i will be good display that would be 144Hz Asus 21 inch

Thanks in advance

 

[Kane]

Everything seems fine other than gpu get rx 460 in case of current resolution get rx 470 in case of 1080p or get rx 480 in case byond that another option also is gtx 1060.

As psu u dont even need 650 watt get something around 500-550 watts.

Good luck and happy gaming

 

[Thinker]

Everything seems fine other than gpu get rx 460 in case of current resolution get rx 470 in case of 1080p or get rx 480 in case byond that another option also is gtx 1060.

As psu u dont even need 650 watt get something around 500-550 watts.

Good luck and happy gaming

You are really grossly misleading people to spend less money than their actual budget for a worse gaming experience than the one they could afford. Even RX 480 does not max out every game at 1080p and you are telling people that it's overkill. Even if a graphics card is currently overkill it won't be too long before games become more demanding. And he did mention that he will upgrade his display in the future.

There are problems with your rig TC I'll get back to you a little later.

 

[Thinker]

That motherboard you have chosen will not let you overclock. If you don't want to overclock then there is no point in buying that CPU and CPU cooler. You need to buy a motherboard with the Z170 chipset if you want to overclock. You don't need a "gaming" mobo but ATX has a lot of advantages over mATX. You get better cooling since your components are more spread about, there are more expansion slots if you ever need them and they are just way easier to work with.

There is no real performance advantage of faster more expensive ram, buy whichever is cheapest as long it's from a known brand.

Your power supply is fine. You won't need more than 650W so not much of a point going for higher. Why are you buying case fans? The ones that will come with the casing are fine.

There is no point in buying the GTX 970 now. Wait for the RX 480 8GB to launch in Pakistan and get that instead. I would recommend you to increase your budget a little and do the following 2 changes. The first one is more important but both are worth it if you can afford them.

1. Get a 240GB SSD.
2. Get the 6700k instead.

For how much are you getting the GTX 970 for? I believe you will be able to save some money with the RX 480 so the cost of the SSD can be accomodated in that. So you are only left with having to add 10k for the 6700k.

 

[Kane]

[MENTION=8586]Thinker[/MENTION] Man i think u really lost it entire net is saying that 480 is overkill for 1080p not to mention the non reference cards will perform a lot better and for ur last part there is nothing like completely future proof in gaming industry even consoles are being upgraded in short durations.Get ur facts right man...

@OP Buddy if u can really afford a hefty price tag then wait a bit a get rx 490 as it will be sure shot and can tear anything apart in its way within 4-5 years.

 

[Thinker]

lol the whole internet is saying that are you serious? Some people might say that 8GB is overkill for 1080p which is wrong as well but absolutely NOBODY says that the graphics chip of the 480 is overkill for 1080p.

We already have the custom 480 cards and they are not all that better than the reference version. I'll give you a bet, start a topic titled "is RX 480 overkill for 1080p" at a popular forum like AnandTech or TechPowerup, if even 30% of the people say yes I'll write in my sig that I was wrong and Kane was right. If not you do the same.

I'll give you some benchmarks of a custom 480....

Wow so much overkill....

 

[mac007]

can u tell us if u r going to overclock ur processor or not??
SSD is now kind of necessary for a gaming rig get 240GB SSD as [MENTION=8586]Thinker[/MENTION] mentioned
Corsair stick will not give u noticeable difference compared to other sticks

 

[Kane]

AMD's Radeon RX 470 does a solid 1080p60 but at a confusing price | VentureBeat | PC Gaming | by Jeff Grubb
Radeon RX 470...

 

[Thinker]

lol you just won't learn.

I did not assert that the 470 is not a solid 1080p card. You asserted that there is no need for a better card for 1080p which is total BS. 1 year from now someone will be wondering where all the overkill performance meant lolol. I am just going to ignore you from now I guess since you seem hell bent on your incredibly flawed outlook on PC hardware.

 

[Thinker]

And btw TC if you plan to buy a 144Hz display in the future then even a GTX 1080 won't be overkill lol so just ignore all this stupid overkill talk.

 

[Kane]

Last post from my side "60 FPS" LOL

 

[DietyDevil]

480 is a good card but it is in no way an overkill card.

 

[taimoorali007]

That motherboard you have chosen will not let you overclock. If you don't want to overclock then there is no point in buying that CPU and CPU cooler. You need to buy a motherboard with the Z170 chipset if you want to overclock. You don't need a "gaming" mobo but ATX has a lot of advantages over mATX. You get better cooling since your components are more spread about, there are more expansion slots if you ever need them and they are just way easier to work with.

There is no real performance advantage of faster more expensive ram, buy whichever is cheapest as long it's from a known brand.

Your power supply is fine. You won't need more than 650W so not much of a point going for higher. Why are you buying case fans? The ones that will come with the casing are fine.

There is no point in buying the GTX 970 now. Wait for the RX 480 8GB to launch in Pakistan and get that instead. I would recommend you to increase your budget a little and do the following 2 changes. The first one is more important but both are worth it if you can afford them.

1. Get a 240GB SSD.
2. Get the 6700k instead.

For how much are you getting the GTX 970 for? I believe you will be able to save some money with the RX 480 so the cost of the SSD can be accomodated in that. So you are only left with having to add 10k for the 6700k.

Thanks for ur guidance bro. First thing OC: personally never did before but wanna buy something that can be altered to meet gaming demand. So yes i will overclock. Ok so its not OC thing that board. So ASUS Z170-K gonna be fine?
Cooler, m buying cuz my room stock is okay but long gaming my old used to get hotter so taking a safe side.

How about not to buy cooler now but when OCing that time i will buy suitable one, sounds okay?
PSU I wanna ask if I buy 550W that would be enough also?

Now RAM, ok wer're good now. simple ones im gonna buy.

So we got cooler gaming rams out. PSU with less wattage. some bucks saved

I can get Z170 mobo and i7 and SSD

later on i will add cooler (if OCing)

So card debate still not to an end, I was using GTX 560Ti m not nV or AMD fan I just need card with low temp no driver bug thing smooth operating. Maybe as u mentioned I should wait for RX 480 or maybe nV. That would be good so that time I can easily and individually spend on GPU

 

[taimoorali007]

@Thinker Man i think u really lost it entire net is saying that 480 is overkill for 1080p not to mention the non reference cards will perform a lot better and for ur last part there is nothing like completely future proof in gaming industry even consoles are being upgraded in short durations.Get ur facts right man...

@OP Buddy if u can really afford a hefty price tag then wait a bit a get rx 490 as it will be sure shot and can tear anything apart in its way within 4-5 years.

Ur point is right. Nothing is future proof but still this investment I want to last for atleast 4 years. So Waitifor new cards to come?

 

[Thinker]

Thanks for ur guidance bro. First thing OC: personally never did before but wanna buy something that can be altered to meet gaming demand. So yes i will overclock. Ok so its not OC thing that board. So ASUS Z170-K gonna be fine?
Cooler, m buying cuz my room stock is okay but long gaming my old used to get hotter so taking a safe side.

How about not to buy cooler now but when OCing that time i will buy suitable one, sounds okay?
PSU I wanna ask if I buy 550W that would be enough also?

Now RAM, ok wer're good now. simple ones im gonna buy.

So we got cooler gaming rams out. PSU with less wattage. some bucks saved

I can get Z170 mobo and i7 and SSD

later on i will add cooler (if OCing)

So card debate still not to an end, I was using GTX 560Ti m not nV or AMD fan I just need card with low temp no driver bug thing smooth operating. Maybe as u mentioned I should wait for RX 480 or maybe nV. That would be good so that time I can easily and individually spend on GPU

Yes I have the same motherboard it has all the modern features. Now the thing is that the 6600k and 6700k don't come with a cooler at all so you will have to buy one anyways. So we can't skip the cooler to a later date. For how much are you getting this cooler for?

Yes a 550W is enough for today's GPUs but you never know what happens in the future. A 650W good brand PSU will last you possibly 10 years so don't save money on this it's hardly going to be 1k.

If you want to go NV you have to wait for the GTX 1060. Go for whichever is cheaper between RX 480 8GB and GTX 1060. If they are same price then go for whatever you prefer. But buying a GTX 970 is simply a really bad choice now so we have to wait. Both the cards I mentioned have been launched in international market already so they should be here anytime soon.

So unfortunately we are not able to save money but remember with the i7 build that I am suggesting every single component with last 6-7 years apart from GPU. And about the last part you need to know that it is difficult to predict how long a GPU is going to last. If you are okay with playing games at medium settings then a GPU can last 4 years but never at maxed settings. So with this build if you upgrade your graphics card after let's say 3 years then your system will easily give you total life of 6-7 years with only the added expense of a GPU in between.

If you really wanna delay an expense you can buy the SSD later but remember you will have to install windows again so that's the hassle of not buying the SSD in the beginning. If you are okay with it then sure you can delay that. Since you care about the long term aspect of your PC I would even suggest to splurge for a 480GB SSD as games are getting bigger and bigger. But of course you can always buy a second SSD in the future so this isn't necessary.

I know this all may sound like excessive expenditure but with the current state of PC hardware, by going big in the beginning you will save money in the long term.

 

[Thinker]

@OP Buddy if u can really afford a hefty price tag then wait a bit a get rx 490 as it will be sure shot and can tear anything apart in its way within 4-5 years.

No GPU can ever "tear anything apart in it's way within 4-5 years". You are Jon Snow my friend lol.

 

[mac007]

tear anything apart in its way, someone remember what was the last Titan card introduced and where it stands now?

 

[Kane]

No GPU can ever "tear anything apart in it's way within 4-5 years". You are Jon Snow my friend lol.

Brah i used my asus 8800gt for 3.5 years till it died never had a complaint with any titles of that time i was suprised @ Crysis performance by the way(Mid end gpu)
I used my Msi gtx 460 for 3 years till it died(mid end gpu)

So if we a re talking about A flagship card Like rx490 then my friend u should understand that at least its performance will be almost as 2x RX 470.



as for 4-5 years claim a lot of GTX 780s(non Ti) are still going solid not to mention the performance of almighty Titan and other stuff.

 

[Thinker]

Oh bhai do you lack reading comprehension as well? You said "tear anything apart" which implies max settings for every game at 60 FPS. No such GPU has existed in the history of PC gaming.

The almighty Titan failed to max out Crysis 3 a game which was already available at the time of its release lol.

The GTX 980 is not maxing every game now. The oldest card that still maxes every game at 1080p is the Titan X which is still only in its second year.

Sent from my HTC One M9

 

[NajeebUllah]

I think the purpose of this forum is to help those who are confused, rather than to make him even more confuse. Everyone has his own opinion. One should give valid arguments supporting his opinion without denying the opinion of someone else. Let the OP decide whose suggestions seems more acceptable to him.