Yes when a single number is mentioned for string gauge, it almost always refers to the gauge of thinnest string (and its standard pack). I have bought stuff from Hi-Volts in Islamabad and they are reliable, but their prices are almost always higher than others. Besides this, I've heard of Pakistan Electronics, but I have no experience with them. Besides these, there is Ion Audio Visual(ion.com.pk) that is located in Karachi, but they have good prices and offer cash on delivery(at least for most accessories) and they ship in a timely manner(their website seems to be down at the moment, but it should come back soon). V-Sel are also reliable but never ordered online with them.
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I bought my first electric from v-sel in lahore, it was a washburn win 14b kit. Since you've been on acoustic, playing electric won't be difficult. However i cannot recommend v-sel, the guitar was obviously used and the pickups damaged. I'd recommend hi volts in islamabad. Saving up and buying a starter kit would be best for your budget since it includes a nice guitar and a decent amp. Go for the ibanez starter kits.
Edit: I went through many troubling months during the start of my electric journey, mainly rust on the strings due to humidity. My suggestion would be to always clean the guitar strings with a clean cloth when you're done playing and store it in it's bag. Apart from that getting coated strings would be the next best thing, i've found this to be the best solution.
Edit: I went through many troubling months during the start of my electric journey, mainly rust on the strings due to humidity. My suggestion would be to always clean the guitar strings with a clean cloth when you're done playing and store it in it's bag. Apart from that getting coated strings would be the next best thing, i've found this to be the best solution.
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Well, you don't need to take any special care for the guitar you would buy. Just store it in its case/bag after usage, don't drop water or other stuff on it (little sweat while you play is not a big deal), don't put it right in front of heater etc. Basically, nothing special just regular care. Regular room temperature and humidity won't cause it any harm.
There are 2 kinds of acoustic guitar. a) Those made of solid wood, b) those of laminate. Its the solid wood guitars that need special care with regards to humidity, but they are expensive and I don't think you would be able to find one for less than 75k. The laminate guitars are quite resilient. Just don't purposefully try to damage them with extreme temperature like putting in front of heater or dropping a glass of water etc. The one you would be buying is almost certainly laminate body/top.
Besides this, there is only general maintenance that you have to do with strings and fret board. Things like try to wash and dry your hands before you play, wipe the strings with a piece of cloth or tissue paper after you play. Replace strings string when they start sounding too dull (the wound strings), or get rusty. (It depends on how much play, pros replace these every 2-3 days, most enthusiasts, every 2-4 weeks, occasional players-few months). When every you replace a set of strings, be sure to clean the fret board as well(with a dry cloth). There are many specific products for it but you don't generally need those. At least not for now. However, there is one product that I really like and if you want, give it a try. Its 'GHS fast fret'. Its basically like a hard cotton brush that has some mineral oil pre-soaked into it. You just have to rub it all over you strings once and wipe the excess off with the piece of cloth provided after every playing session(after wiping the top of the strings, I slide the cloth under the strings and run it once) and it increases the life of your strings.(almost by 1.5-2 times as long). + It makes them a little more slippery. Initially when I started using it I didn't like this extra slipperiness but, now, I've gotten used to it and find it difficult to play without it.
There are 2 kinds of acoustic guitar. a) Those made of solid wood, b) those of laminate. Its the solid wood guitars that need special care with regards to humidity, but they are expensive and I don't think you would be able to find one for less than 75k. The laminate guitars are quite resilient. Just don't purposefully try to damage them with extreme temperature like putting in front of heater or dropping a glass of water etc. The one you would be buying is almost certainly laminate body/top.
Besides this, there is only general maintenance that you have to do with strings and fret board. Things like try to wash and dry your hands before you play, wipe the strings with a piece of cloth or tissue paper after you play. Replace strings string when they start sounding too dull (the wound strings), or get rusty. (It depends on how much play, pros replace these every 2-3 days, most enthusiasts, every 2-4 weeks, occasional players-few months). When every you replace a set of strings, be sure to clean the fret board as well(with a dry cloth). There are many specific products for it but you don't generally need those. At least not for now. However, there is one product that I really like and if you want, give it a try. Its 'GHS fast fret'. Its basically like a hard cotton brush that has some mineral oil pre-soaked into it. You just have to rub it all over you strings once and wipe the excess off with the piece of cloth provided after every playing session(after wiping the top of the strings, I slide the cloth under the strings and run it once) and it increases the life of your strings.(almost by 1.5-2 times as long). + It makes them a little more slippery. Initially when I started using it I didn't like this extra slipperiness but, now, I've gotten used to it and find it difficult to play without it.
great.
I bought semi-acoustic (acoustic/electric) faires d4010 chinese brand for 7.5k in 9.8/10 condition
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wood is harder than others i got before.
I bought semi-acoustic (acoustic/electric) faires d4010 chinese brand for 7.5k in 9.8/10 condition
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?....108558565836738.13945.100000477860084&type=3
wood is harder than others i got before.
im a metal guy so electrics are my darlings.. right now i have 3 beasts..
Ibanez prestige RG series
Jackson DXMG dinky
Schecter diamond series jeff loomis signature guitar..
have been playing for almost a year now still i consider myself a bit >intermediate. the acoustic players that i know mostly do only chords which at first i hated.. yes hated because all u need to do is strum 2 or 3 chords and sing a whole song :grr:.. and those guys never got out of chords. so all u guys playing acoustics i will certainly advise u to get an electric as well(if you are serious about becoming a good guitar player) why electric because sooner or later you will get boared with that hollow piece of wood. you can definatly do some magical stuff if u stick to your acoustics just dont stick to chords only guitar playing is sooo ssooooooo much more do scales,power chords and major chords on acoustics and once you get electric you will have alot more guitar techniques to explore like palm muting,pinch harmonics, full step bending and insane sliding,hammer ons and pulloffs that u just cant do on acoustics...
Ibanez prestige RG series
Jackson DXMG dinky
Schecter diamond series jeff loomis signature guitar..
have been playing for almost a year now still i consider myself a bit >intermediate. the acoustic players that i know mostly do only chords which at first i hated.. yes hated because all u need to do is strum 2 or 3 chords and sing a whole song :grr:.. and those guys never got out of chords. so all u guys playing acoustics i will certainly advise u to get an electric as well(if you are serious about becoming a good guitar player) why electric because sooner or later you will get boared with that hollow piece of wood. you can definatly do some magical stuff if u stick to your acoustics just dont stick to chords only guitar playing is sooo ssooooooo much more do scales,power chords and major chords on acoustics and once you get electric you will have alot more guitar techniques to explore like palm muting,pinch harmonics, full step bending and insane sliding,hammer ons and pulloffs that u just cant do on acoustics...
cerebrus go through the thread I created a year back or so when I was buying an electric ..will help you out
Bought electric , got into scales but was very confusing .. Guide me where to start with scales and stuff
So later I am able to make my own tunes as well as other songs on tabs
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thank you for kind reply [MENTION=18865]asad786[/MENTION]
I'll be buying electric in upcoming months. I had good budget but lost my cellphone so had to compromise it for new phone.
So I went for acoustic for now. I'm getting good at it. learning chords as well as tabs for solos
I myself love the sound of electric but it requires amp which alone cost 10k+ for good one I guess.
@ Nanow yes I went through that thread when i was searching 2 months back. It indeed was helpful
bad mofo has been helpful to me as well in my previous thread of neck bend/fret buzz issue of old guitar
I'll be buying electric in upcoming months. I had good budget but lost my cellphone so had to compromise it for new phone.
So I went for acoustic for now. I'm getting good at it. learning chords as well as tabs for solos
I myself love the sound of electric but it requires amp which alone cost 10k+ for good one I guess.
@ Nanow yes I went through that thread when i was searching 2 months back. It indeed was helpful
bad mofo has been helpful to me as well in my previous thread of neck bend/fret buzz issue of old guitar
you are most welcome [MENTION=26661]Cerberus[/MENTION]
dude seriously you are thinking abt a 10k amp my 150 watt Line6 spider IV amp coasted me 65k a year ago.. that actually became my way out of gaming i stopped spending money on games and few other hobbies, instead i bought a dream gear that would rock like a hurricane "Literally".
i paid a good 4 lac plus for my gear eventhough my guitars coasts more than what i got them for.. im pretty sure badmofo's gear is even more than mine..
shok ka koye mol nahi dost..
dude seriously you are thinking abt a 10k amp my 150 watt Line6 spider IV amp coasted me 65k a year ago.. that actually became my way out of gaming i stopped spending money on games and few other hobbies, instead i bought a dream gear that would rock like a hurricane "Literally".
i paid a good 4 lac plus for my gear eventhough my guitars coasts more than what i got them for.. im pretty sure badmofo's gear is even more than mine..
shok ka koye mol nahi dost..
the infamous pentatonic scale..
E 5 8
A 5 7
D 5 7
G 5 7
B 5 8
E 5 8
try keeping you fret hand stationary move only fingers practice with different picking patterns like down picks up picks and alternate(v.imp)
I have tried this scale but what is the purpose of learning these scales ?
What should be next approach
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Hmmm I'd like to add a few things.
Acoustic and electric guitars are both different instruments. Of course they are somewhat similar to play but each has a whole lot of depth to it and has its own importance. Learning to play each to a high level will take you years. So, one should not be considered an upgrade to the other. And each of the techniques asad listed to be specific to an electric guitar, can be done perfectly on an acoustic and there is still much more you can do. Again, they are different instruments.
The goal with guitar(as with any other instrument) is music. And so, the best way to get started is to learn to play the music/songs you like. First step is to learn to read guitar tabs and use them to learn playing your favourite songs. ultimateguitar.com (UG) is an excellent site for that. If you don't know how to read tabs, you could search at youtube or you might find some articles at UG or many others. I see little point in practicing scales in the beginning because you are more likely to get bored and quit if you are not playing something you like and you can't see results of your efforts. The sole purpose of practicing scales and modes, in my opinion is to improve live improvisation so you can play without having to think about it. But, when you are creating your own music by taking your time, you don't necessarily abide by these. (In case you didn't know: a scale or a mode is a set of notes that if played together would sound good and have its own specific character). There are many great names in music who didn't even learn this simple stuff, let alone the bulk of music theory.
However, music theory and sheet music does help, especially in large groups. But, most pros don't know it. Some do and some even have degrees in music, but most don't.
About guitar amps: Basically, they can be divided in to 3 types. 1) Solid state, 2) Software, 3) Tube Amplifiers.
Solid state are the worst kind, but some people can make them sound good like Dimebag and his solid state Randall amps. But in general, they don't sound quite good. They are cheap and if your budget is low, you might get one from any well known brands like Laney, Marshall etc. By the time they aren't good enough for you, you'll know it, but for now, they are not too bad.
Software: They occur in many different forms. From actual VSTs in your PC, to footboards, to racks, to full fledged amps. They also have varying levels of sound quality, from those that sound like or even worse than solid state, to nearly as good as top of the line Tube amps. Likewise, they also have a wide price range from like 6-7000 to 300k. For new people, especially here in Pakistan, they are the best choice. Line 6 Spider series and POD footboards belong to this category. They are cheap and sound somewhat acceptable, and can be used an many different situations.
Tube amps: They sound the best and this is what the software and solid state are/were intended to emulate. But they much more costly than the former(and that is excluding any effects). Not only to purchase, but also to maintain and carry around. Besides they are generally not available here in Pakistan and you would have to import one and that would cost you a lot. Generally more than twice as much as their original price. So, buying one is generally not a good idea for new or casual players.
Besides these types of amps, there is power rating. From like 1 Watt to over 300Watts. This makes absolutely no difference in sound quality of an amp except in case of tube amps. So, if you buy solid state or software based amps, don't think about it. The only difference for you it would make would be how loud the amp is. This only matters when you practice with a band with a drum kit. And even then you don't usually need more than 50 Watts. Now don't even think about using these live as even 150 watt amps can't work, as the live sound system is in thousands of watts and you should always route through that. So, if you don't think you'd be playing with a band, a 10/15 Watt would be fine as it would be as loud as you need and still be light enough to carry around. If you play with a band, anything around 50/60 watts would be fine. You are unlikely to use anything more and the amp would be much bulky.
Acoustic and electric guitars are both different instruments. Of course they are somewhat similar to play but each has a whole lot of depth to it and has its own importance. Learning to play each to a high level will take you years. So, one should not be considered an upgrade to the other. And each of the techniques asad listed to be specific to an electric guitar, can be done perfectly on an acoustic and there is still much more you can do. Again, they are different instruments.
The goal with guitar(as with any other instrument) is music. And so, the best way to get started is to learn to play the music/songs you like. First step is to learn to read guitar tabs and use them to learn playing your favourite songs. ultimateguitar.com (UG) is an excellent site for that. If you don't know how to read tabs, you could search at youtube or you might find some articles at UG or many others. I see little point in practicing scales in the beginning because you are more likely to get bored and quit if you are not playing something you like and you can't see results of your efforts. The sole purpose of practicing scales and modes, in my opinion is to improve live improvisation so you can play without having to think about it. But, when you are creating your own music by taking your time, you don't necessarily abide by these. (In case you didn't know: a scale or a mode is a set of notes that if played together would sound good and have its own specific character). There are many great names in music who didn't even learn this simple stuff, let alone the bulk of music theory.
However, music theory and sheet music does help, especially in large groups. But, most pros don't know it. Some do and some even have degrees in music, but most don't.
About guitar amps: Basically, they can be divided in to 3 types. 1) Solid state, 2) Software, 3) Tube Amplifiers.
Solid state are the worst kind, but some people can make them sound good like Dimebag and his solid state Randall amps. But in general, they don't sound quite good. They are cheap and if your budget is low, you might get one from any well known brands like Laney, Marshall etc. By the time they aren't good enough for you, you'll know it, but for now, they are not too bad.
Software: They occur in many different forms. From actual VSTs in your PC, to footboards, to racks, to full fledged amps. They also have varying levels of sound quality, from those that sound like or even worse than solid state, to nearly as good as top of the line Tube amps. Likewise, they also have a wide price range from like 6-7000 to 300k. For new people, especially here in Pakistan, they are the best choice. Line 6 Spider series and POD footboards belong to this category. They are cheap and sound somewhat acceptable, and can be used an many different situations.
Tube amps: They sound the best and this is what the software and solid state are/were intended to emulate. But they much more costly than the former(and that is excluding any effects). Not only to purchase, but also to maintain and carry around. Besides they are generally not available here in Pakistan and you would have to import one and that would cost you a lot. Generally more than twice as much as their original price. So, buying one is generally not a good idea for new or casual players.
Besides these types of amps, there is power rating. From like 1 Watt to over 300Watts. This makes absolutely no difference in sound quality of an amp except in case of tube amps. So, if you buy solid state or software based amps, don't think about it. The only difference for you it would make would be how loud the amp is. This only matters when you practice with a band with a drum kit. And even then you don't usually need more than 50 Watts. Now don't even think about using these live as even 150 watt amps can't work, as the live sound system is in thousands of watts and you should always route through that. So, if you don't think you'd be playing with a band, a 10/15 Watt would be fine as it would be as loud as you need and still be light enough to carry around. If you play with a band, anything around 50/60 watts would be fine. You are unlikely to use anything more and the amp would be much bulky.
Thanks.Opening this thread on request....
So I'm going to be heading out to get an acoustic soon and wanted to ask you guys if there was anything particular I should look out for? I've already gotten pointers from some folks who told me to look for any defects in the body and main points of stress. I'm bringing a friend with me who's been playing guitar for a couple of years to play-test them for me. Is there anything else I'm missing or should I be good to go? [MENTION=12458]Benighted[/MENTION] [MENTION=8942]Rip Uzair[/MENTION]
Thanks in advance!
After a few hours of testing and deliberation, decided to go home with this beaut. It isn't branded but it seemed to have the best tone and ease of use out of the ones we tried.
Time to completely screw up my fingers. :crazy:
Time to completely screw up my fingers. :crazy:
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Sorry I couldn't reply in time. I don't know much about the art of purchase, anyway though. It's good that you took a friend who knows his guitars.
Guitar looks awesome, by the way. Would you mind telling the price and where got it from? Also, I'd like to see close-up shots of the neck from the edge, pls
Guitar looks awesome, by the way. Would you mind telling the price and where got it from? Also, I'd like to see close-up shots of the neck from the edge, pls
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saeen I don't think the PSN teams are stressing over needing to offer hundreds of thousands of refunds lol
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