Azadi march lookout thread - PTI calls off dharna

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opethian

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I believe people who are saying army has a backhand on Ik are wrong because if that is the case then i am sure IK would not have said anything about army and generals in his speeches..!!
This much PTI numbers is a big disgrace for a havaldar agar foj iskay sath hoti ;)
Did people notice how many people were there on roads when Geo maligned one general ;)
NS Kay supporters don't blame their stupid stubborn leader n always think who ever is against him is funded by fojis ;)
Supporters Ka ye haal hai tou leader kitna dara hoa hoga!

#PMLN people be ready for a surprise from zardari ;)
 

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Army to is soorat e haal ko jitna nazar andaaz kar sakti hai, kar rahi hai. Haalaat ab tak us nehej tak naheen pohonchay kay un ko amal dakhal kara paray. Is baar un kay sabar ka paimaana qadray behtar hai. :)
 

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Abhe tak aisa hoa kia hai keh army aye?
Na chief change hoa hai na PM corrupt prove hoa hai na IK Kay pass evidence hain Koi :) Islamabad Kay ilawava poora mulk peaceful hai Koi aik b cheez alarming nahe hoi civil nafarmani nay b kuch nahe kiya Koi bad amani nahe hoi so why we need army?
NS is just playing with everyone's patience, if everyone else has leanred something he has also become more stubborn a patient stubborn SOB :)
 

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Abhe tak aisa hoa kia hai keh army aye?
Na chief change hoa hai na PM corrupt prove hoa hai na IK Kay pass evidence hain Koi :) Islamabad Kay ilawava poora mulk peaceful hai Koi aik b cheez alarming nahe hoi civil nafarmani nay b kuch nahe kiya Koi bad amani nahe hoi so why we need army?
NS is just playing with everyone's patience, if everyone else has leanred something he has also become more stubborn a patient stubborn SOB :)
Kal ja rahe hain sab Red Zone dekh letay hain phir kitna peaceful,non alarming rehta hai mulk.

Or Election main vote dalnay nahi gaye thay kia jo Pata nahi hai kitni dhandhli hoi thi ?? or kese aya hai ye PM
 

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N u can't prove ur words
Not even on media
Abhe tak dharnay main IK nay Koi evidence dia?
Khair point is very valid, if today IK establishes his govt with 3000-2 lac unarmed men Kal agar Taliban ajayen with 1 lac armed men tou phir usko b support Karna!
Principally I'm very much a supporter of IK but since his recent unconstitutional decisions he has lost it to some extent! If people believe in IK they should join him in more numbers but no one joining him
His MPA n MNA failed to bring their voters to Islamabad they even failed to stage a dharna in respective constituencies!
He has almost 123 seats in whole Pakistan, except Islamabad aik Aur city or town jahan say MNA n MPA jeeta hai wahan Kisi nay abhe tak Koi muzahira kiyun nahe kia
Trust me IK's own party members have failed him
Kia jamshed dasti Ka Koi munshi nahe Jo wahan rolla machwa day?
In okara agar wapda walay ya bill laynay aajayen ye log gt road block kar daitay hain agar police kuch keh day ye gt road par garian ROK daitay hain! Nawaz has grass root level badmashi! Burger kings can only block n jam Islamabad
We should criticize everyone who is misusing or IA being misused!
IK ko jitna uski party use kar rahe hai itna ns b nahe kar saka but still it's IK and his fanatic supporters who have not failed PTI so far! Do u even think hashmi is against pmln :)
Noon league is just pushing Every thing to its limits because they have blessings from Saudi king and British queen they don't need public support so deal with it na foj kuch karay ge na iski umeed main raho
Pakistan main sab say ziada agar Koi politically influential party hai tou wo mqm hai wo jisko support karay ge that will win so far they have given a mixed n vague statement
"We support jamhoriat" and jamhoriat is jungle Ka qanoon :D
 

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We should remain realistic
PTI gave resigns Now They don't have ANY protection they be no more members of parliament and constitution will not protect them. Just like musharraf is a retired COAS n impeachable :)
IK played his card expecting foreign pressure but he played it without having local pressure n he played it with his own voice so he could be arrested n tried for treason! Mulk main inteshar phailana b treason hai Aaj nawaz Sharif resign kar day Koi b us par treason file Kara sakta hai Aaj SS resign kar day Koi b us par murder ki fir Kara sakta hai! Their political appointment is giving them legal cover thats y un par fir nahe ho sakti!
Is saray dramay maim max Rana sanaullah par fir hoge Aur phir musharraf ki tarha diwania case chalta rahay ga!
So let's be realistic filhal jungle Ka badshah nawaz Sharif hai Aur he is still a king n IK nay resignations day kar bohat baywaqofi ki hai! Wo sab kuch dao pay laga kar jail chala Jaye ga Aur political scene say out ho jaega
NS ko sirf foreign pressure he majbor kar sakta hai let's hope IK Ka card chal Jaye time frame main late na ho! Abhe tak tou Koi international intervention nahe hoi laikin agar hoi then IK should better be not having blood on his hands at least! PTI can only win some grounds if they have peaceful injured people :)
 

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N u can't prove ur words
Not even on media
Abhe tak dharnay main IK nay Koi evidence dia?
Jahan tak baat rahi elections main dhandhli ki wo maine khud apne samnay dekhi hai elections main in Karachi jab main vote dalnay gaya tha, baqi baat rahi proof ke to google kar lo elections rigging ki videos bhari pari hain wo baat alag hai ke un videos ko hamara ye chariya election commission or courts na manay

Baqi aap ki sab baiten apni gigah but ye Government or democracy sab fake hai jab mere samnay jaali vote dal rahe thay to ye kis bat ki Government hai ??
 
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syedfarazahmed

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So let's be realistic filhal jungle Ka badshah nawaz Sharif hai Aur he is still a king n IK nay resignations day kar bohat baywaqofi ki hai!
Iski Badshahat khatam hoti hai har dafa 2 dafa ho chuki hai Kyunke ye jungle nahi hai jo ye tarzan/janwar bana phirta hai. isko bolo insaan banay insaan (sm1)

Or Mulana sahib bhi kal 5 bajay kuch karen ge uspe bhi kuch discussion kari jaye wo bhi threat hain government ke liye.
 

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Yar I totally respect your sentiments but isn't it irony that when we need to prove it either we don't get ant witnesses or the judiciary is also rigged!
This time Mian g came prepared n he took 25 years in planning n manoeuvering :)
He had ideal chief justice then a temporary one for 1 year Now another one for 6 months before next guy comes in so far whole judiciary is under his thumb!
About army, well whole political system is against their interference n that institution is totally under radar of media, politicians and common people! So such an institution won't go for any adventure, trust me they can't afford it. This PTI N PAT way is ideal for maturity of our political system. I see opportunist like MQM also passing very sensible statements, all political parties also agree with IK demands but they want some constitutional way that PTI should adopt so that they can endorse it but its PTI own team members who have failed it IK kitna doray akelay kitna karay! Either he himself lacks it or his team is not playing collectively, it will be a big blow to PTI if any of its parliamentarians don't submit resignation.
Khair bro who doesn't want better pakistan but politicians have political stakes.
 

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K-P Minister for Information and Higher Education Mushtaq Ahmed Ghani said that the K-P government was not the product of rigging and have a genuine mandate, the minister said that it would continue serving and collecting taxes. (Civil Disobedience buri lagi kiya?)

Note: There where angels conducting elections in KPK.
 

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K-P Minister for Information and Higher Education Mushtaq Ahmed Ghani said that the K-P government was not the product of rigging and have a genuine mandate, the minister said that it would continue serving and collecting taxes. (Civil Disobedience buri lagi kiya?)

Note: There where angels conducting elections in KPK.
That's the reason they also say on the other hand that if opposition wants re-election, they are prepared for that and are confident that they will win even more seats.
 

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I Want pmln to leave the govt , never supported them never will support khandani politics
I want IK or Musharaf in Govt
and None of the Above is Gonna happen :mushy: revolution lanay wali qoum nahi hain ham
hamain danday ki hi zaroorat ha
Country always progressed under army
 

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NS is too stubborn to resign volantarily unless there is a huge bloodbath. But if things do get violent they will be as harmful for Imran's politics as they will be for pmln. And for all his emotional speeches TUQ is still a bit of a dark horse so the game is not over by any means.

Badi naazuk soorat e haal hai!
 

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i dont seem any marshal law this time. they are in no mode i guess. but who knows...........

secondly, if PTI march towards red zones and try to cross. then real action begins.... ;) of which u guys are waiting :D

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Pleasant

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NS is too stubborn to resign volantarily unless there is a huge bloodbath. But if things do get violent they will be as harmful for Imran's politics as they will be for pmln. And for all his emotional speeches TUQ is still a bit of a dark horse so the game is not over by any means.

Badi naazuk soorat e haal hai!
let see but rest assured This GOVT is Not gonna leave by own will
NS is ready to accept everything Except Resignation
 

abcd

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let see but rest assured This GOVT is Not gonna leave by own will
NS is ready to accept everything Except Resignation
Personally, i don't see NS going anywhere unless something truly dramatic happens. In my opinion PTI made a mistake by shifting focus from their original demand of electoral reforms to the resignation of NS. Now even if the govt accedes to all their demands except the pm's resignation, it won't reflect well on PTI. They have raised people's expectations so much that anything less than NS leaving will be seen as a failiure.
 

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i dont seem any marshal law this time. they are in no mode i guess. but who knows...........

secondly, if PTI march towards red zones and try to cross. then real action begins.... ;) of which u guys are waiting :D

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Nothing will happen there won't be blood bath or Firing on them
What Imran Khan want is some reaction and the best solution for the Govt is let them go in Red zone
they will only react when they become violent there and on the other hand IK has said there party workers to stay calm in red zone

So the situation will be IK and there Co will enter RED ZONE and they remain calm
means No Open Fire and No Reaction PTI will Fail

Only worse condition for PMLN would be when they opened the fire after entering in Redzone and i am sure they won't be doing this

inshort nothing is gonna happen they will send the commitee and will talk
they will make them agree and PTI AND PAT will agree
Conditions could be these

We will open 10 Halqa's if Rigging gets proved by Court we will resign and there will be reelection
after that everyone will go home

and Now the NEW REAL Rigging will start, To prove there was no rigging in Massive scale there was a Rigging a bit but not a Massive scale that can completely change the results ;)

so by this the GOVT will remain intact and win win situation for PMLN
 
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