A serious Matter,My brother is a mental Patient.

[The Alchemist]

first of all talk to and take advice from different psychiatrists about what to do.
do not do anything that disturbs him or makes him angry. Do not force him to do any thing, not to eat not to come out. As you have mention he comes out when no ones around he will eat if he wants to. don't make him feel that you ppl think he is sick or something .

have ppl or relatives he likes visit your home. if possible ask him to come out to greet them and eat food with them.

Lighten his room e.g if you have curtains in the room take them out. it always helps

what did the previous doctors say?

What kind of a person was he before all this. did he have friends before? contact his teacher if you can. ask him why his grades deteriorated and who he communicated with often. who he communicates with now?(check his phone for messages, recent calls, web history)(check his PC his MSN OR yahoo etc contacts. Is he on facebook? check his web history (it will really help tell what he is thinking) of course when he is not around)
does he have grand parents? have them come and stay over.
Make him go out on family dinners.

if possible try to talk to him about other matters. like go to his room you said he was doing ACCA ask him for problems in maths or stuff like that.

you know him better so imagine that you are him and try to think what could have gone wrong.
Cuz if this is due to some kind of abuse, embarrassment he faced, or depression one way to solve it is to know how it happened.

if your father is the image of a mature person whom your brother loves and respects have him call him and have them talk about any stuff. if things dont get better have the father say in a polite manner that "ye jo tumahri harkaten hain normal insaanon wali nahi(dont say ke tum paghal ho!! ) tumhari ammi tumhare lie buhat pareshan hain. ye na sirf tumhare balke kisi ke lie acha nahi hai.............ye jo main ne kaha hai is par ghoor karna.main jo itne mehnat se kamata hoon ye tum logo ke liye karta hoon etc etc har maan baap ko apne bachon se bari umeedain hoti hai aur ..............main tum se open ho kar baat kar raha hoon etc " stuff like that

If it comes to it have your father talk to him alone and if it doesn't work then make him talk. like e.g tell him that the family has had enough worrying about him and if he does not want to talk so be it. we have had enough you go get a job if you want to live here or dont. if you donot want us to take care of you we wont, you can go live on your own. he might even try to do something horrible keep an eye on him.

 

[theDarkDisciple]

V have taken him to several psychiatrist in Pind,Islamabad and in Lahore but he but he wont go after a few sessions.and now he wont even go to anyone....
After last night he has completely locked his door,He wont answer,he wont open the door or anything....Though I peeped from the side of the door,it seemed like he had put all the things back that he threw last night...Im absoluietly sure that he hasnt killed himself....But my mom is extremely worried...and with dad not being around,my mom has become more worried,coz my dad had some control over the house matters....I talked to dad last night but he doesnt now wat to do either...He just says to wait untill hopefully he comes out....

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And guys I know this matter should not be discussed in this gaming forum...But I want to know from ppl in Pakistan,and I dont know any Pakistani health forums....

I havent read any of the posts in this thread apart from the ones on the first page.

I think you dad needs to come back ASAP. Like right now. This is no small matter, its not like your car broke down, or your TV wont work and your dad says he'll fix it when he gets back. Ask your dad to get back stat, Im sure he can take a couple of days off from work for the sake of his family. Speak with him, get your mom to speak with him as well and ask him that you guys need him back right now.

Above all, stop calling him or referring to him as a mental patient, like you have done in this thread. No one likes to be called a mental patient even if he is one. Do you think if he hears you guys refer to him as mental he'd like it?

 

[ahmadka]

I have to say I agree with everyone here that you should NEVER make him feel that he is 'different' in any way .. And from what I've read, I do not think he is 'mental' .. mental is different .. what your brother is experiencing is regarding something that has hurt him in the past, or something which somebody may knowingly or unknowingly may have done which has made him feel unwanted in some way ..

Have you considered the 'Autism' problem ? I studied this behaviour disorder thing and the symptoms seem to be related in some sense ..

And you dad definitely needs to help in these matters ... Its a very very serious thing and you should try to have your dad take part in your family as much as possible as well ...

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Also, I can recommend you two people as I once knew someone very very close who went through a similar condition ...

The first person I can recommend you is Sarfaraz Shah Sahab .. He is a very scientific yet spiritual wealthy busniess man, who has been guiding people spiritually for like 2 decades now .. Every week for the past many many year, he goes to Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad to listen to people's problems (of all types), and tell them what to do ... and his wisdom has guided a LOT of people .. you will be amazed to see the amount of people who turn up to see him every week ..

His guidance is absolutely free, and he has been in my extended families circle for many years now ... I would HIGHLY recommend that your mom and dad go and see him and discuss the problem openly with him .. I'm sure he can tell your parents what to do inshAllah, trust me ! His weekly dua venues schedule is given over here: http://qalander.org/6.html

The second person I can recommend is Brig. Dr. Muadid Rana in CMH Rawalpindi .. He is the head of the Psych ward in CMH Rawalpindi, and a close friend of mine had a psych problem a few years ago, whom this guy managed to fix .. My friend was so disturbed that he used to cut him on his body ... He needed help and this guy really helped him ... So he is also recommended a lot !

If you need any further details or any kind, PM me if I dont reply back here in this thread ...

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And do keep us all updated ... It takes a lot of courage for someone in pakistan to be so open about their life's affairs ... we all appreciate your sincerity and we're all here to help !

May Allah Almighty fix this problem of your family with His abundant wisdom !

 

[ubuntu83]

Excellent post there Dark disciple. Definitely the OP needs his father to handle the situation. As he mentioned in his earlier posts that his father has some authority over his brother. The OP alone or along with his mother can't handle the issue at hand. The OP himself mentioned that his brother is quite older than him so he definitely wont takes instructions from somebody whose quite younger than him. His mother seems too emotional. So she wont be of much help in this situation.
Definitely call your father and tell him to come back ASAP.

 

[venatic]

i think it is something do wid his ACCA (7 years are alot) he might have been disappointed failing n failing the papers . . . trust me i've seen my friends doing ACCA\CA when they start failing they become depressed sadistic & let them to be leave alone ... perhaps he didn't want to do ACCA & someone forced\persued him to do so n now he's stuck. BTW i'm doing CA (4/6 done) in 3years n 3 left (articles goin) .. i'm writing this cuz i have seen my two friends having the same situation lyk ur BRO has ... one of them Alhamdulillah is now back to lyf due to our(friends & his family) efforts . . . all u family members shud talk to him softly & encourage him to speakout his prob.

 

[RehaniBoi]

I havent read any of the posts in this thread apart from the ones on the first page.

I think you dad needs to come back ASAP. Like right now. This is no small matter, its not like your car broke down, or your TV wont work and your dad says he'll fix it when he gets back. Ask your dad to get back stat, Im sure he can take a couple of days off from work for the sake of his family. Speak with him, get your mom to speak with him as well and ask him that you guys need him back right now.

Above all, stop calling him or referring to him as a mental patient, like you have done in this thread. No one likes to be called a mental patient even if he is one. Do you think if he hears you guys refer to him as mental he'd like it?

Dude Ofcourse I dont call him a mental patient at home....I just wrote it here so u guys would understand his condition....

 

[Moiez89]

My Brother is also a SCHEZOPREHNIA ...Since 12 years..since the time of his A-levels. Believe me..its impossible..Soo much happened and happening..But u people know..u cant fight with some1 brain..its a long depressing story....i will try to tell after getting free from my ACCA papers.

 

[FlAmEsWoRd]

im suffering the same problem from 6 or 7 years there r so stupid doctors in karachi i have found a great doctor nd following his treatment now im a little gud if u want to contact with that doctor then just private message me i'll give u the number

 

[Zaqris]

Well my brother (25) has some sort of mental Illness.He doesnt talk to anyone in the family.He only trys to ACT normal when someone else comes to visit us (which surely doesnt work)...It has been around 4 years since he got in a fight with our sister (20) and then after a few months he argued with me and stoped talking to me aswell....anways about 2 years ago we shifted to Lahore nd got into an appartment of only 3 rooms,Unfortunately I sort of share a room with him,I just dont sleep there coz the room is mostly locked,my clothes and stuff are in there....after shiftin he kinda started talkin to mom but recently he stopped talking to her aswell....He lockes himself in the room,doesnt eat much,God knows wat he does in there....
Anyways Last night my mom started crying coz of him (u know how moms are) so me and my sister thought to go to his room and talk it out (we have tried this many times before) but this time he didnt let us in,he kept on pushing the door shut so I thought two can play the same game...I pushed the door trying to open it..He is very weak so he didnt have much power to hold on,when my sister got in the room he got up ran towards me attacked me holding my throat saying 'Tum ne maar khani hai?' and s*** like that...I was thinking in my head what the hell just happened,even though it didnt hurt physically (coz hes to weak for me),he left me pushed my mom away and told us to stay away,slammed the door,punched it a couple of times shouting "Main ne nai aana bahar,Nai aana bahar"...He threw some things in the room which I think were a glass,Bookshelf and monitor.....He went out of the room while we were sleeping at night (atleast he thought we were) and went to drink water...after that the door is still locked and we cant go through.....I know he didnt kill himself coz he has done this tantrum thing before....
Plz someone help us,wat should we do? there isnt any good rehab facility in Pakistan,mom took him to the psychiatrist before but now he refuses to go,he doesnt take his pills,He has just become a big pain in the neck.....Im mostly worried about my mom coz she is getting restless and impatient coz of all this,she cries alot,and this is very hurtful....
I would really appreciate it if someone tells me about his condition...and is someone else is also going through problems like this plz share.......

Whose a psyciatrist here on pg care to answer this guys question?

 

[RehaniBoi]

Whose a psyciatrist here on pg care to answer this guys question?

Dude If u dont want to help,Dont say Anything.......
and BTW unlike u ppl here have been very helpful....

 

[Zaqris]

Dude If u dont want to help,Dont say Anything.......
and BTW unlike u ppl here have been very helpful....

Whats your problem huh! do u even have a slightest idea you are making fun of your brother infront of everyone here???
is it possible for anyone to give any solid advices to and you expect us to belive you ll follow those?
u are only mocking your brother nothing else,there are several forums on internet which have professional psycologists there to cover all the problems
u have 3 posts and i am assuming you made a account just to ask pg members that?

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My Brother is also a SCHEZOPREHNIA ...Since 12 years..since the time of his A-levels. Believe me..its impossible..Soo much happened and happening..But u people know..u cant fight with some1 brain..its a long depressing story....i will try to tell after getting free from my ACCA papers.

Tell me please i have heard people with SCHEZOPREHNIA tends to see strange things?? lke ghost aliens and even see themselves sometimes is it true??

 

[devilscallmedad]

You absolutely must have to take him to a psychiatrist for therapy/medicines this DEFINITELY sounds more advanced then simple issues. If he doesn't go, you should go to a qualified psychiatrist explain your brother's condition to him in detail and see what he recommends. Don't get scared by the thought of "forced admission into a mental institute" i have a friend who had a huge mental breakdown and spent around 2 months in an institute and is perfectly fine now. Consult some professional asap.

 

[RehaniBoi]

@Zaqris

Dude Just Shut up....Finding help for ur brother is not mocking....And BTW ppl here have been very helpfull,besides u that is........
Ur the one here whos MOCKING....

 

[Dracoola]

Whats your problem huh! do u even have a slightest idea you are making fun of your brother infront of everyone here???
is it possible for anyone to give any solid advices to and you expect us to belive you ll follow those?
u are only mocking your brother nothing else,there are several forums on internet which have professional psycologists there to cover all the problems
u have 3 posts and i am assuming you made a account just to ask pg members that?

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Tell me please i have heard people with SCHEZOPREHNIA tends to see strange things?? lke ghost aliens and even see themselves sometimes is it true??

Schizophrenia has many stages. If a person is seeing and hearing things that arent there, then there is a problem. Needs professional help.

 

[Zaqris]

@Zaqris

Dude Just Shut up....Finding help for ur brother is not mocking....And BTW ppl here have been very helpfull,besides u that is........
Ur the one here whos MOCKING....

Ever considering going to a hospital??? u expect people here ( thats the most funny part) to help u?
they can give advices? like what all they can say is go take ur brother to a hospital ...seriously u have issues u dont even understand how u are mocking ur poor brother (if he really is sick ie)

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Schizophrenia has many stages. If a person is seeing and hearing things that arent there, then there is a problem. Needs professional help.

I wonder ... u cant really know untill u go through it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[RehaniBoi]

@Zaqris

If only u had read the whole thread I had told that we did take him to the Hospital....
And Im asking here coz I wanted to see whether anyone else is facing a problem like mine,and if they have found any solution,Id like to know....
Ppl here have sent me numbers to some good psychitrists and that is a plus....And finding help from a forum is not mocking (everyone else finds help about family problem and thats not MOCKING)....and If ur so busy,just keep urself out of it.....Other r beeing extremely helpful.....
Now if u still think ur right,be my guest...I dont want to go off topic........

And I metioned before....I am a gamer,I recently came accross this forum,and it rocks...so I made an account....

 

[Wolfy]

Ever considering going to a hospital??? u expect people here ( thats the most funny part) to help u?
they can give advices? like what all they can say is go take ur brother to a hospital ...seriously u have issues u dont even understand how u are mocking ur poor brother (if he really is sick ie)

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I wonder ... u cant really know untill u go through it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

considering the number of post you have I would like to enlighten you with some of the PG traditions since you are new to PG ASWELL.

1 - Here on PG we are like family ( very strong one couz we feel the pain of each other )
2 - Since you are new here, trust me if you have any problem we are here to help you provided you leave your sick mentality behind before coming here.
3 - Offending someone asking for serious help is forbidden here I am sure you will get dragged by many people.

PS : If you cant add anything positive done click it..

 

[Bad Mofo]

Listen, Pakistan has probably the highest rate of untreated mental illness anywhere in the world. That said, we also have something like 2 psychologists for every 1 million people or something!

You probably did go to a hospital, but they could have misdiagnosed the symptoms. It happens in all fields of medicine, psychiatry is no different.

If you love your brother, go somewhere else. And if that doesn't satisfy you get another opinion.

Pakistani Psychiatrists are usually just bad doctors who would rather pump someone up with Valium and lock them up rather than help the patient. Get information about the best in the business and go there.

 

[RehaniBoi]

@Bad Mofo...
I was also thinking that....I think after one or two more tries localy (hopefully something gets better) otherwise we would have to send him abroad for treatment.....

 

[Zasha]

As I said before go to Dr.Murad at Aga Khan. Best psychiatrist in the country