AMD Ryzen 7 Officially Launched - 1800X $499, 1700X $399 and 1700 $329

deltoid61 · Mar 2, 2017

kkfroma2j said:
That's because it's an 8/16 chip. You really shouldn't be comparing the R7 line to the i7 line - apples and oranges.

What you want to do is wait for the R5 line to be released - that's when you should see higher clocks and what not at a far lower price than the 7700k.

if the clocks will be higher chances are there for ryzen to beat i7 7700k that would be interesting

opethian · Mar 2, 2017

kkfroma2j said:
That's because it's an 8/16 chip. You really shouldn't be comparing the R7 line to the i7 line - apples and oranges.

What you want to do is wait for the R5 line to be released - that's when you should see higher clocks and what not at a far lower price than the 7700k.

Yes R5 n R3 will be actual competition to Z270 n z170 platform. But from press clips, R5 1600x (6/12) also has a boost clock of just 4ghz and R5 1500 (4/8) also similar. Let's see if those chips can overclock better than their 8 cores big brothers

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kkfroma2j · Mar 2, 2017

I'm not saying that the Ryzen 4/8 or 6/8 chips will beat the 7700k - Intel's process is far to mature - but it will be a lot closer for gamers. Throw in a $200 - $250 price tag and then that 7700k isn't looking so pretty.

deltoid61 · Mar 2, 2017

opethian said:
When 1800x perfoms slower than 7700k how can 1700 outperform it
For games i56500,6600k, 7600k n i7 6700 n 7700k are still best ... gamers should not be worried about Ryzen performance

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Actually Superior Chips dont focus totally on Gaming they maintain a ratio between oVerall performance and have Lower clocks its not possible to have More cores at high clocks
if their lower models are highly overclockable and have higher base Clockspeeds they can outperform their superior chips in gaming the thing @kkfroma2j is talking about

kkfroma2j · Mar 2, 2017

opethian said:
Yes R5 n R3 will be actual competition to Z270 n z170 platform. But from press clips, R5 1600x (6/12) also has a boost clock of just 4ghz and R5 1500 (4/8) also similar. Let's see if those chips can overclock better than their 8 cores big brothers

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Yeah, I'm not really expecting to see 5GHz overclocks on any Ryzen chip...yet. Like you said, it will get better as the 14nmFF process matures.

opethian · Mar 2, 2017

kkfroma2j said:
I'm not saying that the Ryzen 4/8 or 6/8 chips will beat the 7700k - Intel's process is far to mature - but it will be a lot closer for gamers. Throw in a $200 - $250 price tag and then that 7700k isn't looking so pretty.

Well it seems everyone wants to top leaderboards here

because most follow benchmarks.
If Ryzen R5 n R3 can also manage a 80% to 90% performance of 7700k n 7600k at $250 and $190 respectively, Intel will have a hard time appealing to mainstream users. Not everyone wants to be at the top of leader board of benchmarks, most people just want to play games smoothly and do intensive tasks at low price n lesser electric bills.

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opethian · Mar 2, 2017

deltoid61 said:
Actually Superior Chips dont focus totally on Gaming they maintain a ratio between oVerall performance and have Lower clocks its not possible to have More cores at high clocks
if their lower models are highly overclockable and have higher base Clockspeeds they can outperform their superior chips in gaming the thing @kkfroma2j is talking about

I'm actually lost now, what ur debating here

If money is not an issue for you yes Intel is best.

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kkfroma2j · Mar 2, 2017

^This

I'm in that camp as well. If something does the job I need it to do, I will usually buy that option.

Edit: I'm not a gazillionaire v(^-^)

kkfroma2j · Mar 2, 2017

Though this is a win for AMD (and us), there are still hurdles to overcome, namely mindshare and Intel's vast resources. I think we've all heard about what Intel did to AMD in '01/'02...

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To really force Intel into doing the right thing by us (consumers), AMD need to break into the pre-built and server markets. That's where the real money is.

LiV3 WiR3 · Mar 2, 2017

kkfroma2j said:
To really force Intel into doing the right thing by us (consumers), AMD need to break into the pre-built and server markets. That's where the real money is.

Yeah, once those big whales like HP, Dell, acer, lenovo etc. are impressed, the rest will follow.

Also, I think 1700 is the best option, because all 3 perform basically the same. I think we'll see a great number of 1700 processors here. 1700X shouldn't have been released, and 1800X should've been called 1700X instead. The 1800X name and price should've been reserved for a future better clocked CPU.

StrikerX · Mar 3, 2017

LiV3 WiR3 said:
Yeah, once those big whales like HP, Dell, acer, lenovo etc. are impressed, the rest will follow.

Also, I think 1700 is the best option, because all 3 perform basically the same. I think we'll see a great number of 1700 processors here. 1700X shouldn't have been released, and 1800X should've been called 1700X instead. The 1800X name and price should've been reserved for a future better clocked CPU.

It is, 1700 is the one to get IMO. I'll get 1700 if I gather enough $$$ in the next 2-3 months.

Very very impressive from AMD, this the first iteration and it's very early in the process, lets see if AMD can get 10-15% leap in performance in the 2nd iteration.

LiV3 WiR3 · Mar 3, 2017

StrikerX said:
It is, 1700 is the one to get IMO. I'll get 1700 if I gather enough $$$ in the next 2-3 months.

Very very impressive from AMD, this the first iteration and it's very early.

I'm more interested in the 1500x and 1600x 6 core variants. Considering AMD's track record, they'll probably be unlockable to 8 cores..

opethian · Mar 3, 2017

LiV3 WiR3 said:
I'm more interested in the 1500x and 1600x 6 core variants. Considering AMD's track record, they'll probably be unlockable to 8 cores..

O yes, I'm sure 1600x could be unlocked to 1800x as it has similar base n boost clocks
Only thing is cache ...

Where AMD went wrong or i must say ... Saved bucks is dual channel memory. From reviews we can already see that 1800X performed amazingly good with 3000mhz rams n even faster and was able to match or come close to quad channel X99 platform performance. If we dig deep into this Guru3D review, one can easily see how much AMD would have gained with quad channel memory support.

AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Review - Performance - System Memory Perf: DDR4 Memory Read / Write

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mac007 · Mar 3, 2017

i m also interested in 1500 non X version

opethian · Mar 3, 2017

Ryzen 1700x reviews are also out even on youtube

and this iranian website also shared their results

برای اولین*بار در دنیا: بررسی تخصصی پردازنده AMD Ryzen 7 1700X [اختصاصی شهرسخت*افزار]

Ryzen is not a gaming chip, people with 7600k n 7700k should be relieved

X99 owners, u can pull ur hairs

StrikerX · Mar 3, 2017

opethian said:
Ryzen 1700x reviews are also out even on youtube

and this iranian website also shared their results

برای اولین*بار در دنیا: بررسی تخصصی پردازنده AMD Ryzen 7 1700X [اختصاصی شهرسخت*افزار]

Ryzen is not a gaming chip, people with 7600k n 7700k should be relieved
X99 owners, u can pull ur hairs

That's understandable since the platform is very new and games need to be optimised for Ryzen whereas they already are for Intel's platforms, didn't really make sense when they matched Intel at compute intensive workloads but lagged behind in games. AMD made an official statement on their lack of 1080p performance when PCPer reached out

Spoiler: show

AMD responded to the issues late last night with the following statement from John Taylor, CVP of Marketing:

“As we presented at Ryzen Tech Day, we are supporting 300+ developer kits with game development studios to optimize current and future game releases for the all-new Ryzen CPU. We are on track for 1000+ developer systems in 2017. For example, Bethesda at GDC yesterday announced its strategic relationship with AMD to optimize for Ryzen CPUs, primarily through Vulkan low-level API optimizations, for a new generation of games, DLC and VR experiences.

Oxide Games also provided a public statement today on the significant performance uplift observed when optimizing for the 8-core, 16-thread Ryzen 7 CPU design – optimizations not yet reflected in Ashes of the Singularity benchmarking. Creative Assembly, developers of the Total War series, made a similar statement today related to upcoming Ryzen optimizations.

CPU benchmarking deficits to the competition in certain games at 1080p resolution can be attributed to the development and optimization of the game uniquely to Intel platforms – until now. Even without optimizations in place, Ryzen delivers high, smooth frame rates on all “CPU-bound” games, as well as overall smooth frame rates and great experiences in GPU-bound gaming and VR. With developers taking advantage of Ryzen architecture and the extra cores and threads, we expect benchmarks to only get better, and enable Ryzen excel at next generation gaming experiences as well.

Game performance will be optimized for Ryzen and continue to improve from at-launch frame rate scores.” John Taylor, AMD

If you want to see the statements from both Oxide and Creative Assembly, they are provided below.

“Oxide games is incredibly excited with what we are seeing from the Ryzen CPU. Using our Nitrous game engine, we are working to scale our existing and future game title performance to take full advantage of Ryzen and its 8-core, 16-thread architecture, and the results thus far are impressive. These optimizations are not yet available for Ryzen benchmarking. However, expect updates soon to enhance the performance of games like Ashes of the Singularity on Ryzen CPUs, as well as our future game releases.” - Brad Wardell, CEO Stardock and Oxide

"Creative Assembly is committed to reviewing and optimizing its games on the all-new Ryzen CPU. While current third-party testing doesn’t reflect this yet, our joint optimization program with AMD means that we are looking at options to deliver performance optimization updates in the future to provide better performance on Ryzen CPUs moving forward. " – Creative Assembly, Developers of the Multi-award Winning Total War Series

opethian · Mar 3, 2017

With DX12 and Vulkan, games will start getting optimized for Ryzen. But I'm not much worried about that. On 1440p, the difference is very minimal, who cares if he is getting 134fps or 122fps ... The difference is not perceptible to normal human eyes even with 144hz monitor.
What matters to me is that Ryzen is giving 6900k level performance at $500 price point in applications which I use mostly like video n photoediting ... That's awesome

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Dark Sith · Mar 3, 2017

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StrikerX · Mar 3, 2017

Dark Sith said:
has any one ordered from thirft.pk they are saying they are official disturbutors -

They are the official distributors.
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Dark Sith · Mar 3, 2017

StrikerX said:
They are the official distributors.
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wekk lets see which boards they get --the msi titanium board is epic even the asus crosshair board --

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