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nice... i see a good comparison *not of PvP* but Pserver Vs retail .. :lol:

@hasanJ : that ghissafication wont lead to an end unless your opponent played on retail.

@Zasmain Raiku is the best mage on retail couz everything on retail works as intended, as far as mages are concerned i am with hasanj here.. they are freakin OP a decent player can kill any mele class provide he knows 30% of mage class,
 

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@Wolfy

This discussion started from this sentence read it

Figures

Frost Mage the single most overpowered Class/Spec from WoW Vanilla to Cataclysm
And as per MOP Beta 100k Ice Lance seem to be a norm

Very easy to talk big about PvP when playing this Class/Spec (sm1)

PS: Rogue the most effective Melee class as of right now GG


And atlast the conversation is ending at Cata really ?
Your fact were not right i just jumped to make them right .
Mages were not OP nor in vanilla tbc or wotlk .
Thats all


[MENTION=1283]hasanJ[/MENTION]
Can i please have a link of your character's armory link showing atleast 2k Arena rating at retail .
Reading your post just confirms more and more you are a pver and ofcourse your experience of retail doesnt proves you know every aspect of pvp .
If No armory then surely i am wasting my time discussing with a retail pver . And wont discuss a bit about pvp anymore :)
You played at Private servers as well imo . Dont make the private server player feel that bad you were or maybe still one of them .
 
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hasanJ

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@hasanJ
Can i please have a link of your character's armory link showing atleast 2k Arena rating at retail .
Reading your post just confirms more and more you are a pver and ofcourse your experience of retail doesnt proves you know every aspect of pvp .
If No armory then surely i am wasting my time discussing with a retail pver . And wont discuss a bit about pvp anymore :)
You played at Private servers as well imo . Dont make the private server player feel that bad you were or maybe still one of them .
How about u show me ur 2k Ratings on a Non Mage Caster
Being the highest represented Direct Damage Caster in Arena this Season, Frost Mage is statistically the easiest to break 2k Ratings with

If No armory then surely i am wasting my time discussing with a retail pver
Discussing the following? The following are the absurd claims or lack of explanation U a "PvPer" are failing to deliver

Claiming Mages are not OP even though they are the most represented Caster
Claiming Warriors are good in Arena even though they have 1% representation

Posting Random "Facts" from PServers
Seriously? I mean Seriously? Oh look on some Random Server the Top Comp is Priest/Druid that obviously means Mages are not Overpowered

Fail to answer WHY Blizzard "Gutted" the Frost Mage in MoP
I mean if Frost Mage is not OP then why the hell are they loosing almost all of their Novas?
 
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Wolfy

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@Wolfy

This discussion started from this sentence read it

Figures

Frost Mage the single most overpowered Class/Spec from WoW Vanilla to Cataclysm
And as per MOP Beta 100k Ice Lance seem to be a norm

Very easy to talk big about PvP when playing this Class/Spec (sm1)

PS: Rogue the most effective Melee class as of right now GG


And atlast the conversation is ending at Cata really ?
Your fact were not right i just jumped to make them right .
Mages were not OP nor in vanilla tbc or wotlk .
Thats all


@hasanJ
Can i please have a link of your character's armory link showing atleast 2k Arena rating at retail .
Reading your post just confirms more and more you are a pver and ofcourse your experience of retail doesnt proves you know every aspect of pvp .
If No armory then surely i am wasting my time discussing with a retail pver . And wont discuss a bit about pvp anymore :)
You played at Private servers as well imo . Dont make the private server player feel that bad you were or maybe still one of them .
you havent played for a single day on retail and you are making such judgemental comments i am amazed... atleast you have google or let me be more precise you have elitejerks or arenajunkies go lure around and u will see why we both have the same opinion and u have different.

[MENTION=1283]hasanJ[/MENTION] : i dont think this discussion have a constructive end so better stop it here.
 

hasanJ

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you havent played for a single day on retail and you are making such judgemental comments i am amazed... atleast you have google or let me be more precise you have elitejerks or arenajunkies go lure around and u will see why we both have the same opinion and u have different.

@hasanJ : i dont think this discussion have a constructive end so better stop it here.
Irfan bhai ur telling me this guy has never played a Single Day on Retail? o_O
I was under the impression that he did or used to

If this is true then LOL at asking me to show 2k Rating in Arena :lol:
 

hasanJ

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he used to be on WoWscape.. than magic wow and now playing on molten. (sm1)
A very interesting point

Level 70 PvP in TBC or Patch 2.4.3 was very different from Level 70 PvP today in Patch 4.3 as the Talents and Abilities were first over hauled for Wrath of the Lich King with Patch 3.0 and then for Cataclysm with Patch 4.0

An invalid comparison
a Shaman in TBC at level 70 didnot have Thunderstorm or Lava Burst or Fulmination
Similarly Warlocks in TBC at Level 70 had the infamous SL/SL Spec no longer possible in Cataclysm
Ret Paladins were useless at Level 70 in TBC but are formidable at Level 70 in Cataclysm

And Best of all Mages at Level 70 in TBC did not have Fingers of Frost
 
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