[OT] .::The Official 3G/4G LTE Thread::.

Which 3G/4G is going best so far?


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shaheerk

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Here it is,

From comments: it will only work on 850 band, and Currently available in khi lhr isl

https://twitter.com/telenorpakistan/status/1135819741283512320?s=19


And that's current condition of telenor at my home



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4G is better than what I get at home.

3G isn't exactly better - but you can place calls and use data (albeit slowly) on those speeds.

I honestly hope these guys do something about their network coverage, and down the line, spectrum management. I am now at that point where reliability is more important than download speeds (which is nice, but if you can't use a smart phone for calling and browsing, and managing your account, then...)

Oh, and pings on Mobilink have exponentially increased to Pakistani websites, and some CDNs in the Middle East. Try pinging Nayatel's website (it would be around 150-180ms) or Reddit or CNN (it would be around 250-300ms).

Good luck with VOIP with those pings.

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shaheerk

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For pedantic reasons:

I did a test last night, outside Bahria Phase... 4? On GT Road. And got this:


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Observe how it says LTE+, and how average the signal strength is.

Moving on to today, it's clear Telenor's 4G coverage isn't it's strongest suit - but where it does work, it... sorta works? Results can vary from 3Mbps to 17Mbps by moving a mere 10 feet. I was in Rainbow Cash and Carry (it's next to the Bahria head office in phase 8) and first, got this:

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This was, actually, WITH carrier aggregation enabled (no screenshot to prove, sorry).

Moved a few feet (around 10 or so) because I was stuck in a line, and got this:

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The signal strength for this reading was as follows (didn't take a split screen shot - but did take the readings and forgot about it):

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That's... pretty good for mediocre Telenor.

When I got out of the store and sat in my car (in the parking), I got this:

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The network didn't enable CA where my car was parked. But when I drove off by around 50 or so meters, CA was in swing. I didn't do a test then.

When I reached home, I got this:

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This was WITHOUT carrier aggregation.

So here's why I'm posting:
- Telenor has coverage holes. In those holes, 3G will keep you running. Their 4G isn't going to be as fast as Mobilink or Zong (poor decision planning by Telenor back then), but they're trying to overcome that shortcoming.
- CA helps. A lot. Except when it doesn't. In most cases, it helps but there are times when it doesn't make much of a difference. That's how radiowaves are. My home has average signal but the download speed (on the driveway) was pretty decent (for comparison, Mobilink gives me ~40Mbps in the same area with a similar signal level).
- There are times when the phone throws me off 4G, and 3G, and I was signal-less for about a minute until I toggled airplane mode. Then I got onto 2G. Took a while before I got back onto 4G. This happened on the way to Bahria's office. This should NOT happen, Telenor!
- On the way back from Bahria's office, 4G got strong - then weak - then it fell back onto 3G (band 5) - then it fell down to 2G. At least that was there. But why did it go all the way down? Their urban planning is nada! zilch! kapoot! I didn't test their 3G speeds here.
- I decided to place a call on their 2G to their IVR. It was okay. Nothing special. There was a part where there were quite a few tower handoffs involved so the voice was garbled there - but it didn't cut off (Mobilink cuts you off, I think, and then puts you back on).
- I did test their 4G in one place - behind a mosque. 4G didn't go beyond 2Mbps. 3G was around 3.5 Mbps. I moved to the other side of the mosque, and 4G jumped to 12Mbps. The building, it appears, was hindering everything.

I remember last time, Telenor had signals in places but no CA and their 3G was iffy. Now, they still don't have signals in place but do have CA and their 3G performance has shown some improvements (speed-wise). But coverage is hardly blanket. I wonder how they are in the smaller cities (considering they're just... average... in the suburbs). But not bad at all. I think these issues could be alleviated (not gone) if they improve their coverage.

At least with them, things work - where there's signal. Decent pings, working self-care app, decent call quality (in my limited testing - but you can only be the judge of that when you constantly use it).
 

zafarabbasrizvi

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At the moment only Telenor branded Infinity smartphones.

Hopefully other manufacturers are supported very soon.
Ok.
Every device which supports band 5

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Not possible. Telenor is saying in comments that every 850 MHz supported device will support VoLTE. But that is not how VoLTE works. 850 MHz supported devices existed even before Telenor 4G launch.

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murtaza12

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Ok. Not possible. Telenor is saying in comments that every 850 MHz supported device will support VoLTE. But that is not how VoLTE works. 850 MHz supported devices existed even before Telenor 4G launch.

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Exactly. Biggest hurdle with VoLTE for all networks globally is manufacturer support.
 

shaheerk

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Exactly. Biggest hurdle with VoLTE for all networks globally is manufacturer support.
Ok. Not possible. Telenor is saying in comments that every 850 MHz supported device will support VoLTE. But that is not how VoLTE works. 850 MHz supported devices existed even before Telenor 4G launch.

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What on Earth are you two talking about? You think any company in Pakistan would make sense?

Seriously. I expected better from both of you.

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sumair007

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It is SIM dependent and it has always been.

Telenor only started giving 4G SIMs after they launched it, so if your last visit to Pakistan was before that, you had a 2G/3G only SIM.

You have to get a new one issued. They do home delivery I think.

yeah my SIM card is from 2006 ^_^

so any idea what documents are required? Or can I just go to any franchise and get my SIM replaced?
 

murtaza12

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yeah my SIM card is from 2006 ^_^

so any idea what documents are required? Or can I just go to any franchise and get my SIM replaced?
Nothing special. Just biometric verification and they might charge like 100-200 rs, but that's all.

Like I said, franchise visit isn't even entirely necessary. You can even call them to arrange home delivery.
 

zafarabbasrizvi

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yeah my SIM card is from 2006 ^_^

so any idea what documents are required? Or can I just go to any franchise and get my SIM replaced?
Home delivery will take time. Just go to any mobile retailer shop with cnic and get the sim instantly.

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zakiuddin

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[MENTION=63376]shaheerk[/MENTION] here is telenor 4g and 3g at work



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