[OT] .::The Official 3G/4G LTE Thread::.

[shaheerk]

How do you know it has gone because of abuse?

It's very normal for a resource to be exploited once the word spreads.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Unless it's civic sense, things get exploited.

/S

But seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. I don't think this is the case because they probably see how many people have Blackberry phones, and how many people are using BIS packages, do some correlation, and see that there's no reason to offer this service.

I know a few people who had BIS first, then got a smartphone, and then changed their package because paying 1,000 for casual internet was not making sense.

But our nation - why can't we exploit the good things? Like - say - education, or civic sense, or humanitarian activities? I don't have an issue with tethering, but pay up if you want to tether so much (or get an employee package). Heck, I have an employee package but I don't tether (when Zong had the unlimited bundles, the most I used in one month was 21GB - and that was stretching it. Otherwise, it was between 5GB and 10GB... This was a few years back. Now? Not more than 7GB, if and when I use it excessively and conduct speed tests).

Thing is - these companies are not Google. Heck, even Google charges $10/GB (or something) for it's Project Find service, but they allow tethering.

Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

 

[murtaza12]

Mid October is just around the corner, eagerly waiting for the Jazz network upgrades, the speeds in RWP have been pathetic recently. Won't go past 5-6 Mbps in most cases.

 

[shaheerk]

Well - some other guy on Twitter asked the Mobilink top dogs when it'll get upgraded, and they said that the intend to upgrade the whole network in Q4 2017.

I've let go of holding my breath. On the other hand, I've noticed that 4G signals are a bit better (just a bit - because Telenor still penetrates better, but Mobilink 4G vanishes less) in my Faraday-cage room, and I hope they actually launch VoLTE (rather than keep it testing with guinea pigs).

I was thinking - usually, operators would charge their customers more to give them better services, right? I wonder where Mobilink falls in that continuum. Not that they're total crap (like they were back in 2001/2/3/4/5) but - they need to have a value proposition of some sort. Also, I was reading this elsewhere online (O2 forums, I think?) that because 3G is on 2100Mhz, the chances of signal drop outs on 3G are high. Which might explain why Telenor's 3G signals don't vanish - but they didn't vanish before the 850Mhz auction either because they have way too many 3G towers set up - so that works for them.

I'm also hoping Telenor implements CA between b3 and b5 - cause that'll fix their uncompetitive speeds. But then...

 

[khanorak]

At my location (Kohat), Jazz signals have totally vanished. 2G/3G. 4G is not available here.

Could it possibly indicate network upgradation?

 

[murtaza12]

At my location (Kohat), Jazz signals have totally vanished. 2G/3G. 4G is not available here.

Could it possibly indicate network upgradation?

Does Warid show up in network search?

 

[khanorak]

Does Warid show up in network search?

yes Warid shows up with GSM and UMTS bands. but can't connect

 

[murtaza12]

yes Warid shows up with GSM and UMTS bands. but can't connect

Then it's probably maintenance of some sort.

Let us know when Mobilink comes back and if it's upgraded or not.

 

[zafarabbasrizvi]

This is Jazz 4G right now with full bars

And this is 3G

Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk

 

[iNCEPTiON]

Jazz 4G in Rwp right now.

Sent from my Honor 6X using Tapatalk

 

[shaheerk]

Change your speedtest servers (choose the Faisalabad or Lahore Jazz servers) and the pings (and downloads) will be better... in most cases.

So here's some food for thought: if DC HSPA+ was not implemented for @zafarabbasrizvi, he would be getting speeds of around 4Mbps (but DC means twice the speeds). Think about that!

As for why you're getting sucky 4G speeds (but 3G is better) - well - 3G is using DC... and this is why I think CA on 4G will alleviate most problems (because the phone is forced to create multiple connections). I could be wrong though, but I really want to experiment with this. OR - it could be that 4G is having a tough time at your end (Zong used to have phases where speeds wouldn't go beyond 2Mbps on 4G for the whole day - usually some kind of maintenance was on or something). Perhaps it's that, since you never get such low speeds.

Also, PTCL needs to fix its routing - it's leading to higher pings on TW1-based networks (and since Mobilink relies on PTCL more than it does on TW1, Mobilink suffers from the same issues). Telenor and Zong use TW1. (edit: right now, PTCL is fine; it's Mobilink which isn't because of one server inside Mobilink)

 

[murtaza12]

Jazz 4G

Spoiler: show

Jazz 3G

Spoiler: show

This is what Pakistans Biggest network has come to. :/

There is literally no decent option left to switch to. Telenor has so much potential but they refuse to do anything. Zong steals your balance and their 4G sucks. And Jazz is doing this shit. Slow ass network upgrades and so many places are still showing Warid as a separate network.

 

[zafarabbasrizvi]

Change your speedtest servers (choose the Faisalabad or Lahore Jazz servers) and the pings (and downloads) will be better... in most cases.

So here's some food for thought: if DC HSPA+ was not implemented for @zafarabbasrizvi, he would be getting speeds of around 4Mbps (but DC means twice the speeds). Think about that!

As for why you're getting sucky 4G speeds (but 3G is better) - well - 3G is using DC... and this is why I think CA on 4G will alleviate most problems (because the phone is forced to create multiple connections). I could be wrong though, but I really want to experiment with this. OR - it could be that 4G is having a tough time at your end (Zong used to have phases where speeds wouldn't go beyond 2Mbps on 4G for the whole day - usually some kind of maintenance was on or something). Perhaps it's that, since you never get such low speeds.

Also, PTCL needs to fix its routing - it's leading to higher pings on TW1-based networks (and since Mobilink relies on PTCL more than it does on TW1, Mobilink suffers from the same issues). Telenor and Zong use TW1. (edit: right now, PTCL is fine; it's Mobilink which isn't because of one server inside Mobilink)

Check again. Speed test server is Jazz located at Faisalabad. I normally used to get 14-18 Mbps on 4G but there is something wrong with Jazz 4G today other wise it never went this much down.
[MENTION=42544]murtaza12[/MENTION] wait for 4G network upgrade in Baharia. Things will get better. When? God knows [emoji3]

Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk

 

[shaheerk]

Jazz 4G

Spoiler: show

Jazz 3G

Spoiler: show

This is what Pakistans Biggest network has come to. :/

There is literally no decent option left to switch to. Telenor has so much potential but they refuse to do anything. Zong steals your balance and their 4G sucks. And Jazz is doing this shit. Slow ass network upgrades and so many places are still showing Warid as a separate network.

I've been wondering how Zong has been doing in the network department lately.

As for balance drops: has anybody tried to access their e-care services to see where the drain is coming from? Mobilink doesn't offer ecare for postpaid (it's there, but isn't even barely functional - heck, they sent an SMS to everybody that we can generate our tax certificates from the ecare portal - but there was NO option to be found ANYWHERE - so much for their cohesive services).

Honestly, I think Telenor prepaid is probably the only operator that has something going in its favor - except their network speeds aren't as high as the others... but at least there aren't as many issues (billing, pricing etc). In fact, I was using their self-care app on my phone, and when I tried to dial 345, it hung up and opened up the app itself - they're trying to reduce your reliance on their helpline. I don't see any other operator doing that (which is a nice thought, if you think about it). You can then force the app to call 345 if the app can't do what you want it to do. And data may be relatively slow, but it still works. It's their 4G which is a total let down.

 

[murtaza12]

I've been wondering how Zong has been doing in the network department lately.

Their 4G still sucked ass last I checked which was very recently.
I just took the SIM out and threw it in the back of my desk drawer, they've probably drained all 300 rs of balance in it by now.

 

[StrikerX]

they're trying to reduce your reliance on their helpline.

They are :angel:

 

[khanorak]

.::The Official 3G/4G LTE Thread::. VoLTE incoming

I must say I have a different experience with Telenor MiFi.

Here's a 4G test.

Jazz server was giving only 1 Mbps.
Actual download speeds using IDM cross 5MBps at max.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[zafarabbasrizvi]

Telenor did a Zong to me today. I was using Telenor Djuice weekly offer of Rs. 100. I used to check resources, balance and validity date on My Telenor app. And I was renewing my offer continuously on last date of validity and had around 16 GB data in resources.

In current update (released on 1st Oct) they changed validity presentation without informing users. Validity of my offer was showing as 8th october and I needed to renew my offer today. And when I renewed my offer today morning, in My App only current offer was showing and all old data was disappeared. Upon inquiry Telenor representative told me that my validity date was 7th october. When I told him that my validity in My Telenor app was showing as 8th october. He replied that 8th october was mean 11:59 PM of 7th october. I said if it was like that why were you guys were even mentioning 8th of october. There was no need for that. Just write 7th october midnight. And he was like "sir its company policy to mention validity like this".

Their validity on My Telenor app is still contracting with their *999# validity. And I have lost 16 GB due to this. Check below

Spoiler: show

Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk

 

[murtaza12]

I must say I have a different experience with Telenor MiFi.

Here's a 4G test.

Jazz server was giving only 1 Mbps.
Actual download speeds using IDM cross 5MBps at max.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Could this mean normal connections are capped and their MiFis are uncapped?

 

[khanorak]

Could this mean normal connections are capped and their MiFis are uncapped?

I'll do a quick speed test using Telenor Normal SIM. But MiFi is giving excellent speeds at good price.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[zafarabbasrizvi]

Could this mean normal connections are capped and their MiFis are uncapped?

No. I always get 30 Mbps at D Ground area in Faisalabad. Elsewhere it remains around 10 mbps

Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk