Murderers Pardoned.

[ubaid]

I am amazed how can anyone claim that it was not Shahrukh that murdered Shahzeb, instead it was his guards? Ever heard the word of "accomplice"? Guard was following orders of whom? It is anonymous to saying that the guards of political parties are on rampage killing in Karachi, so the leaders of those political parties are innocent and must be exonerated. Ridiculous!

 

[helraizer]

Paisay lay liye ab kyon shahzeb keh maa baap ya bol rahay hain "keh ab Allah faisla karay ga" bhai tumna paisay lay liye ab Allah kyon faisla karay ga!

 

[salman09]

koi bi pagal nai ha ke apne baite ke katlon se paisa le buhat kam loug aisa karte hain
as the case for shazaib no doubt in tht uski sari family par buhat ziada pressure tha yeh pakistan ha bhion yahan insaf nai chal sakta
KUFR KA NIZAM CHAL SaKtA HA ZULM KA NAI IMAM ALI As
dnt knw kya bane ga is koum ka future mei

 

[Ali250]

I find it difficult to comprehend that the murdered boy's family was pressurized to pardon the boy. His father is a senior officer in the Police force and they also happen to be relatives of Nabeel Gabol.

I wouldn't blame them for accepting blood money. It's their right and there's no law (written or unwritten) which says it equates to selling out the victim.

I disagree. Even if his father was IG police it doesn't hold a candle against the Jatoi family who have deep-rooted ties with the province's ruling parties along with a bunch of other, far more influential people in the establishment. At the end of the day, his father (a DIG) was just a person with a middle-class background in a police uniform on a government payroll, definitely one with more connections that your average white collar guy, but still nothing in comparison to the murderers. As for Nabil Gabol, his influence is fairly limited now, seeing as he left/was kicked from PPP and is currently an MNA for a party which has no ruling powers.

That's the reason this case held so much meaning to everyone; it wasn't a battle between two equally matched rivals in a power game (which there have been many throughout the history of Pakistan), rather Shahzeb represented the educated, middle-class citizens of Pakistan and Shahrukh Jatoi, the feudal landlords who have ruined this country and evaded justice for so long, and sadly, the outcome of this fiasco just shows that they'll continue to do so unhindered.

 

[Tultras]

I disagree. Even if his father was IG police it doesn't hold a candle against the Jatoi family who have deep-rooted ties with the province's ruling parties along with a bunch of other, far more influential people in the establishment. At the end of the day, his father (a DIG) was just a person with a middle-class background in a police uniform on a government payroll, definitely one with more connections that your average white collar guy, but still nothing in comparison to the murderers.

That's the reason this case held so much meaning to everyone; it wasn't a battle between two equally matched rivals in a power game (which there have been many throughout the history of Pakistan), rather Shahzeb represented the educated, middle-class citizens of Pakistan and Shahrukh Jatoi, the feudal landlords who have ruined this country and evaded justice for so long, and sadly, the outcome of this fiasco just shows that they'll continue to do so unhindered.

Educated, middle class? I'm sorry, but you're wrong, dead wrong.

 

[Ali250]

You can call me a friend of Shahrukh and no i was not there to witness the whole episode. Indeed neither were his friends at the scene of murder. All these friends were in the street next to country club apartments. Shahzeb while running in his car and nearly hitting one of shahrukh's cousin took off on which the cousins followed. What happened next is disputed but he was shot near Mubarak masjid (the next street few blocks away) what i do know for sure that it wasn't shahrukh who shot him and neither did Shahzeb deserve to be shot. Regardless of shahrukh family having a history of waderism, Shahrukh is different and i know him well. He called his cousins only because he was ganged up by some kids and shahzeb's father. Shahrukh is not a friend to Talpurs for your kind information.

As for why he ran away, well Nabeel Gabol has a history with Shahrukh's dad Sikandar Jatoi. At that time Sikandar did not want his son to face the music whereas a boy has died and the Case took a political turn. Later the suo moto action was a fraud, unjust and atc had no substantial evidence to charge him (Shahrukh) with murder. If you go back to the hearings you will recall that the friends testimonies kept changing. They also accused Shahrukh of following the dead till Ziauddin hospital and made sure he died. Who does that ? BS , and when he was killed near Mubarak masjid how did the friends witness the shooting whereas the fight took place next to country apartments ?

The law firm which took the prosecution case (Munir A Malik aka the current attorney general of Pakistan) demanded a very high price from Sikandar to get his son out. Upon rejection he approached Shahzeb's father. Funny that the social media team kept thinking they bought change.

I wrote several comments on fb , a letter to the court and few comments on tribune to punish shahzeb's friends as culprit too. I have evidence and witnesses which will testify that shahzeb friends were there for phadda and they gathered there to beat the talpurs. Shahrukh was a third person, a passerby who came to stop the fight. He too was considered as talpur's friend and beaten upon which he claimed he is sikandar jatois son and has nothing to do with talpur. Hearing this SHahzeb father Mr Aurangzeb interfered and told Shahrukh to go away. At this time he called his cousins and yes his cousins are not the people to mess with. They are bunch of crazy lunatics who have been involved and got away a lot of times from Darakshan police without any charges on several counts. I once myself went to launch an f.i.r against one of Shahrukh's cousin and they (police) bluntly told me to f off (that is another story of what happened). This guy mobeen who was the IO of Darakshan and in this case was the same person who rejected my F.I.R. He is also the same person who demanded money off Sikandar to get him off this case.

The truth is , whole episode was manipulated. Neither is the police, nor shahzeb's father or his friends are innocent. Today's incident is a proof that the game was about the money and both parties were at wrong.

The fact is :

1) Shahrukh did not kill Shahzeb.
2) No one witnessed the shooting only gunshots were heard.
3) The matter and story told by media and his friends was one sided and biased.
4) Sikandar came on tv due to lies by Shahzeb Khanzadda of Express tv (i.e sikandar was told my Khanzadda to come and save his son). Sikandar although not clean himself however is an innocent man when it comes to politics.
5) Nabil Gabol personal grudge was involved.
6) Testimonies were influenced , Police investigation officer Mobeen is a thug and anyone who thought Police and Judiciary became angels should get out of this false consciousness and this is the very reason police and judiciary are not being involved in Karachi operation. Both institutions in Karachi are bought and politicized . New judges have been bought in for Karachi operation btw.
7) Shahzeb's friends should be punished, they saved their skin. Each should be charged with false testimony.
8) Till date even i don't know who killed Shahzeb but all i know is it wasn't Shahrukh albeit that it was one of his men (cousin, friend , guard).
9) I have been told by the jatois that they won't comment on today's incident. Same has come out from Shahzeb's family. All i know is that a few days back Jatois begged Shahzeb's family for pardon. I don't know if diyat has been paid and by how much.
10) Truth prevailed , and as for threats issued to Shahzeb's family i don't vouch for that. Nabil Gabol is a more powerful party than Sikandar.

So you mean to say all the judges in the judicial bench of the Anti-Terrorism Court who sentenced Shahrukh Jatoi to a dealth penalty were high on drugs when they made their judgment? I guess it'd be worth informing you that there's a certain major field in the 21st century called forensics. Murders hardly happen in front of a ton of people, and the murderer hardly ever lingers around long enough for anyone to even catch the glimpse of their face.

 

[Blastwave]

What's with the religious commentary here?

All off topic, religious, moronic posts will have consequences.

 

[Tultras]

What's with the religious commentary here?

All off topic, religious, moronic posts will have consequences.

I think the religios statements stem from the fact that blood money payment is a practice rooted in Islamic tradition and law.

Which is why this thread should be closed, In my opinion.

 

[Blastwave]

I think the religios statements stem from the fact that blood money payment is a practice rooted in Islamic tradition and law.

Which is why this thread should be closed, In my opinion.

not that sort of religious stuff. the wrong kind.

 

[mafiadog]

@mafiadog

Kindly read this report: Shahzeb murder case drop scene

NOTE:

1. President got involved in this matter. It won't surprise me if this level of influence/pressure forced Shahzeb's family to consider "out of the court" settlement for this case.

2. Shahrukh (or one of his accomplices) were responsible for killing Shahzeb. You are claiming that Shahrukh did not fire shots, but he could have prevented firing incident but didn't.

3. When the accused were awarded death sentence, they emerged from the court in "celebrating fashion." What the hell is this?

4. Is is true that a sister of Shahzeb was harassed prior to the fight and this was the cause of the incident?

Read this:

Spoiler: show

Before Shahzeb was gunned down, there was a fight between Shahzeb and Siraj Talpur after a servant of Talpur had teased Shahzeb’s sister, which was frequently repeated. In the meantime, Shahrukh Jatoi had reached the scene and pulled a gun and silenced Shahzeb for good.

So either you are not telling the whole story or the whole world is STUPID! Which is it?

So what if Shahzeb got emotional in a fight? This doesn't excuses the act of murder. Any sane person would get emotional and angry if his female relative or family member will be harassed by someone else. Heck, people can get emotional or angry for reasons other than this one.

1)Which president ? Zardari ? the president have enough time to take notice on this one such incident to pressurize a common man? IF there was truth in this then the settlement would have realized a long time ago.

2) Yes i'm claiming Shahrukh did not fire the shots nor was he an accomplice. He had no control over the situation, however i'm not saying he is not at fault. I'm just saying he's not the person who shot Shahzeb as falsely claimed.

3) Shahrukh was 17 year old at the time of the incident, he turned 18 recently. The later bone density tests were influenced. Sikandar is an innocent man when it comes to politics , since this issue was politicize all institutions he once relied on (bribed,had relations with) turned on him. So this boy Shahrukh was told by Ashraf (his elder brother) on the day the sentence was handed to not let down and act as a winner. Although if you are raising this now , it seems more like they struck a deal early on , doesn't it ? if this was the case then i know their family personally, they were half dead since Shahrukh was sentenced and regularly begged Aurganzeb (Shahzeb Father) for mercy.

4) Yes, the story is like this:

Talpur servant apparently said to Shahzeb's sister when she returned from wedding , "kis wale ke saath shaadi hoi". Upon hearing this Shahzeb got infuriated (anyone will), went up to call his friends and his dad. They all came down and called Talpurs out to set things straight. This started a fight and Shahrukh not being related to them was coming back from Mcdonalds (sea-view corniche) which at that time was closed for renovation. He took this route to go towards KFC 26th street. He was getting a meal for his brother. Now at this point , when he took the turn in from seaview to the road leading to country club apartments to reach 26th street. He saw several people beating 2-3 guys on the main road. Seeing this he got off the car , and went to 'stop'. Upon which he was also beaten and it is at this point he exclaimed , 'i'm Shahrukh jatoi , son of Sikandar Jatoi' , repeatedly. He was then told by Aurganzeb (Shahzeb father) to go away and apparently Shahzeb's dad apologized. However Shahrukh said he won't let this go and called his cousins.

If you would read above (the article) and listen to the false testimonies , it is clearly mentioned that the fight was between Shahzeb and Talpurs, Shahrukh came in between or from somewhere. As for your last sentence, no body would adhere to the fact that Shahzeb deserved to die. Not even Shahrukh nor his family. Rage can lead to these circumstances and two wrongs don't make one right. Had it been Shahrukh who would've died during the initial beating , what then ? Since the family is now pardoned, what remains is to see how the ATC acts. Crime against state is what he was booked for , the following case of appeal will bring clear and more precise facts.

 

[yousaf465]

I think the religios statements stem from the fact that blood money payment is a practice rooted in Islamic tradition and law.

Which is why this thread should be closed, In my opinion.

no, that stuff where people started discussing religious history. and fair enough it wasn't related.

 

[kamran saeed]

2 taky k log paisy k aagy bik gaye r galian court ko mil rhi hain ab jis ka bnda mara hy wo khud hi maf kr rha hy to court kya kry

 

[faraany3k]

1)Which president ? Zardari ? the president have enough time to take notice on this one such incident to pressurize a common man? IF there was truth in this then the settlement would have realized a long time ago.

2) Yes i'm claiming Shahrukh did not fire the shots nor was he an accomplice. He had no control over the situation, however i'm not saying he is not at fault. I'm just saying he's not the person who shot Shahzeb as falsely claimed.

3) Shahrukh was 17 year old at the time of the incident, he turned 18 recently. The later bone density tests were influenced. Sikandar is an innocent man when it comes to politics , since this issue was politicize all institutions he once relied on (bribed,had relations with) turned on him. So this boy Shahrukh was told by Ashraf (his elder brother) on the day the sentence was handed to not let down and act as a winner. Although if you are raising this now , it seems more like they struck a deal early on , doesn't it ? if this was the case then i know their family personally, they were half dead since Shahrukh was sentenced and regularly begged Aurganzeb (Shahzeb Father) for mercy.

4) Yes, the story is like this:

Talpur servant apparently said to Shahzeb's sister when she returned from wedding , "kis wale ke saath shaadi hoi". Upon hearing this Shahzeb got infuriated (anyone will), went up to call his friends and his dad. They all came down and called Talpurs out to set things straight. This started a fight and Shahrukh not being related to them was coming back from Mcdonalds (sea-view corniche) which at that time was closed for renovation. He took this route to go towards KFC 26th street. He was getting a meal for his brother. Now at this point , when he took the turn in from seaview to the road leading to country club apartments to reach 26th street. He saw several people beating 2-3 guys on the main road. Seeing this he got off the car , and went to 'stop'. Upon which he was also beaten and it is at this point he exclaimed , 'i'm Shahrukh jatoi , son of Sikandar Jatoi' , repeatedly. He was then told by Aurganzeb (Shahzeb father) to go away and apparently Shahzeb's dad apologized. However Shahrukh said he won't let this go and called his cousins.

If you would read above (the article) and listen to the false testimonies , it is clearly mentioned that the fight was between Shahzeb and Talpurs, Shahrukh came in between or from somewhere. As for your last sentence, no body would adhere to the fact that Shahzeb deserved to die. Not even Shahrukh nor his family. Rage can lead to these circumstances and two wrongs don't make one right. Had it been Shahrukh who would've died during the initial beating , what then ? Since the family is now pardoned, what remains is to see how the ATC acts. Crime against state is what he was booked for , the following case of appeal will bring clear and more precise facts.

Why would we beleive you when court has decided that he has done it.

Fact is that little rich wadera (I want to abuse him so hard) left the country breaking all rules and his illetrate and jahil tareen father who cant even speak two words without making a sense lied that he went to australia and blah blah.

Dont try to defend a proven killer here.

 

[mafiadog]

So you mean to say all the judges in the judicial bench of the Anti-Terrorism Court who sentenced Shahrukh Jatoi to a dealth penalty were high on drugs when they made their judgment? I guess it'd be worth informing you that there's a certain major field in the 21st century called forensics. Murders hardly happen in front of a ton of people, and the murderer hardly ever lingers around long enough for anyone to even catch the glimpse of their face.

No , the judges of ATC were scared of the CJ Suo moto. They were getting notices and pressure everyday from the CJ to close the case. The case was prosecuted by Munir A Malik law firm like i said who is the present Attorney General in NS Government, initially he approached Sikandar with a very high price to get his son out. Sikandar was constantly manipulated , this jatoi from Sukkur is not your government jatoi or the jatois you know. They got rich recently due to massive hike in cement demand and prices. He is more of a businessman than a politician , and his only source (relation) would be the local thanas that his sons would bribe.

Speaking of forensics in Pakistan is a joke. The investigation officer Mr Mobeen like i said was the same guy who supported the jatois. These sindhi waderas have total control of our police force and in turn the police works for them for money. Mobeen the io officer at darakshan also demanded a very high price from Sikandar , and upon denial he made a complete false report. Till date the weapon used in the murder is missing contradictory to what police has claimed, till date the witnesses who were mentioned in actual fir have denied that the events turned out as told by police, till date there is no conclusive evidence that Shahrukh jatoi murdered Shahzeb. On this basis , Shahrukh filed an appeal and i believe the case will be heard. So let us wait for the events that will be unfolded soon and facts will come out after Shahzeb family has pardoned Shahrukh.

Agar aapke forensics itne hi valid hote to aaj Karachi ke halat bikul sahi hojata. Whoever has more source with politicians , control the Karachi police.

 

[faraany3k]

No , the judges of ATC were scared of the CJ Suo moto. They were getting notices and pressure everyday from the CJ to close the case. The case was prosecuted by Munir A Malik law firm like i said who is the present Attorney General in NS Government, initially he approached Sikandar with a very high price to get his son out. Sikandar was constantly manipulated , this jatoi from Sukkur is not your government jatoi or the jatois you know. They got rich recently due to massive hike in cement demand and prices. He is more of a businessman than a politician , and his only source (relation) would be the local thanas that his sons would bribe.

Speaking of forensics in Pakistan is a joke. The investigation officer Mr Mobeen like i said was the same guy who supported the jatois. These sindhi waderas have total control of our police force and in turn the police works for them for money. Mobeen the io officer at darakshan also demanded a very high price from Sikandar , and upon denial he made a complete false report. Till date the weapon used in the murder is missing contradictory to what police has claimed, till date the witnesses who were mentioned in actual fir have denied that the events turned out as told by police, till date there is no conclusive evidence that Shahrukh jatoi murdered Shahzeb. On this basis , Shahrukh filed an appeal and i believe the case will be heard. So let us wait for the events that will be unfolded soon and facts will come out after Shahzeb family has pardoned Shahrukh.

Agar aapke forensics itne hi valid hote to aaj Karachi ke halat bikul sahi hojata. Whoever has more source with politicians , control the Karachi police.

Yar tum sahi ho baki sb judge ghlat hain, sb witnesses ghalat hain. Bullshit

 

[mafiadog]

Why would we beleive you when court has decided that he has done it.

Fact is that little rich wadera (I want to abuse him so hard) left the country breaking all rules and his illetrate and jahil tareen father who cant even speak two words without making a sense lied that he went to australia and blah blah.

Dont try to defend a proven killer here.

His father was innocent , was first time on tv, did not know anything about his son as Nawab (the co accused and elder brother of Shahrukh) was the one who accompanied Shahrukh out of the country to Dubai. Don't believe me , i'm not getting paid for this. I'm sharing with you the other side of the story and my 2 cents.

 

[mafiadog]

Yar tum sahi ho baki sb judge ghlat hain, sb witnesses ghalat hain. Bullshit

You can believe whatever you want. I reckon you are from Islamabad. Come here in Karachi where Police and Judiciary are equally responsible for the Law and Order of this city. Both are politicized , bribed and controlled. Previous judges from 30th Aug and police don't have any role in the current Karachi operation as stated by the Interior ministry. This is because they are both considered to have political influence in Karachi.

 

[faraany3k]

His father was innocent , was first time on tv, did not know anything about his son as Nawab (the co accused and elder brother of Shahrukh) was the one who accompanied Shahrukh out of the country to Dubai. Don't believe me , i'm not getting paid for this. I'm sharing with you the other side of the story and my 2 cents.

The other side of story is even you dont know who shot Shahzeb. That is a bunch of propaganda. If you know that Shahrukh has not shot him and you are 100% sure then either you are fabricating stuff or your source, or you deliberately protecting the killer.

And I ll keep posting this picture. Cuz' this shows the mentality of this illetrate and filthy rich class. You dont expect them to turn MODEL CITIZENS when these worms grow up.

 

[ubaid]

^You story may be right. But all that does NOT warrant a murder!

And I just want to ask you one question: Let's presume Shahrukh did NOT murder Shahzeb but surely he must have known who murdered him? Why did not he and his family try to bring original criminals to books? With as severe a penalty as death punishment, he and his family would definitely have brought fore the names of those who actually committed the murder. But unfortunately, they did NOT. And this reaffirms that he PLAYED his part in the murder, if not actually murdered him by himself.

ATC judges were scared of CJ? Sorry, you are absolutely wrong on this!

Plus: You said that he was below 18. His father is on record saying he is pursuing his MBA. Since when you start MBA before 18?

With all sorts of lies from Shahrukh's family, I hardly doubt he was innocent.

 

[BumperJumper]

[MENTION=1226]faraany3k[/MENTION]: Posting a picture of a guy with gun and using it as a basis to call him a murderer is utterly stupid. How many people try to pose stylishly with gun. Even the recently murdered burger kid a.k.a Hamza Ahmed had a profile pic of him posing with a gun, was he also a murderer?