I got 2 ratings for a single deal. 1 +ve and 1 -ve

[Dark Slayer]

Well where to begin......... I had a mobo and Cpu http://www.pakgamers.com/forums/f64/mobo-asus-a8n-sli-deluxe-99286/. This lad who goes by the name @shinigami8671 contacted me and asked me to sell it to him. He agreed to pay me first and asked me to ship the goods ASAP. Since I was busy for some time therefore I asked him to hold the payment and whenever I get free I'll send MOBO to him and he can pay me once he checks the mobo.

I shipped him the Mobo on 28.05.2012 which was received by him on the next day. After a day I get a call from him saying that he is at some computer shop to get the mobo's display checked and also told that he can find the VGA input on the mobo , I told him kay bhai this MOBO has no onboard VGA and u have to get the display thorugh some PCI-E card. He is like "Yaar tum nay mujhay bataya nai k is main display post nahi now I have to buy a PCI card" I said " bhai you were the buyer you must know what you are buying" waisay bhi it can only be fault if as a seller I mention something that was not there, but this is not the case in this scenario.

He asked me for how much he can the PCI card and all I directed him to PG user Gamerz who sells chep VGA cards and he purchased a PCI E card from him.

Now on 03.06.2012 I get a positive rating from him. Getting this rating I contacted him and told him to send me the money due upon him Rs.1650/- and this was conversation that took place

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HIM: i can send u 1Krs anytime u want,but the rest are gona take some time this PCI card also cost 580RS altogethor, needed a DVI to VGI converter with it and the delivery.

ME: Now thats not fair, I told you to pay me once you are satisfied with working condition of mobo. Since you have done that I would request you to please transfer the amount in my account till 10th June.
Regards

HIM: bro i told u the very night i got the mobo that it would take some time to send the full cash because i didnt know abt the vga thing.I asked if u could wait or if not then i would have sent the mobo back the very same day. U said "np yar,bad mei day daina".
Now i will try to send the full cash to you by the tenth,if not i will send the mobo.

ME: Send the cash. I have received the TS for the MOBO. I won't be taking it back.

I gave him till 10[SUP]th[/SUP] June as evident from the conversation, as it must be an honest mistake on part of buyer as he did not know about the VGA thing. Now on 12[SUP]th[/SUP] June I again sent him a PM asking for money, following is the conversation that took place on PM:-

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12.06.2012

ME: Salam brother, its past 10th june now. Please transfer the amount in my account. Thanks.

Acount details:XXXXXXX

HIM: bro send easy paisa details,i'll do that.DOnt have a bank account of my own.

ME: U dont need a bank acount for sending money. Just take a copy of CNIC and fill the deposit slip at any meezan bank branch and remit the cash. It is free of cost. easy paisa main tumhain 150-200 ki thuk jai gi.

Agar na mood ho online karanay ky to following is my details. XXXXXXXXXXXX


14.06.2012

HIM: my brothers sending over the cash today,PM me the second you get it.

ME: He us sending via Bank or easypaisa?

HIM: i think bank.He doesnt have his id with him,besides it costs extra. U gave me that meezan bank account with 6 zeros,if u have a Scharterd account that would be better.

ME: Don't have any other account, only this one. AND account details are perfect.

HIM: Meezan it is then. Btw do u have an i3 2nd gen pro? i was saving cash for it but now wont be able to. Or a mobo for it.
If u know someone selling one in reasonable price pls do let me know.

ME: Ok I will mate.

Now later that day I told him that I have not got the money as of yet and he was like “Yaar ye tum nay konsa AC day diya hay MEEZAN to ATM main hay hi nahi option main Khuwar karadiya meray bhai ko…..Blah Blah……” I then asked him to send though Bank on Friday……..Now on Friday he calls me at 4:30pm “Yaar ab ye bank kahan hay Rawalpindi main mujhay nahi pata” I told him to go visit Meezan website and look for nearest branch he asked me to do it as he was out of home and told me “Yaar Sadar Rawalpindi ki branch ka batana main Sadar main hoon” I went online and SAHAB ko Meezan Bank ki sadar wali Branch ka bataya. Now at 5:30 I checked my account balance and cash was not received I SMS him asking for it and he says “abi karata hoon” I told him that bank timings are over and he was like “Yaar yum nay khuwar karadiya bank band hoga tumnay mujhay bataya nai yaar khuwar karadiya ……..Blah Blah.” I told him That Monday ko karadayna transfer.

Now on Monday SYANCHAND 1500 rupees online karatay hain when asked kay bhai 1650 rupees karanay thay he is like “Yaar blah blal…mislay hi mislay……Lambi line…..blah blah………mislay hi mislay……..” I told him to pay me via easyload in my mobile number. CHALO BHAI ALLAH KAY SHUKAR SAY PAYMENT HOGAI PURI……..Shukar Alhamdulliah.

Ab mera bhai asks for positive rating………..I gave him a neutral rating and as per the entire episode I judged him to be

“Irresponsible “ ……….Because he ignore his liability.

“Ignorant”………. He does not know what he is buying.

AND lastly ……..”Deal carefully with him”………. Because he is a pain in the A@#.

For that neutral rating he gave me a negative rating. MODS please look in to this as he has given me a false rating and pleases remove it. @Jshak @iNF3RN0

P.S. I had too much time to waste today so created this long long thread.

 

[shinigami8671]

Well where to begin......... I had a mobo and Cpu http://www.pakgamers.com/forums/f64/mobo-asus-a8n-sli-deluxe-99286/. This lad who goes by the name [MENTION=22908]shinigami8671[/MENTION] contacted me and asked me to sell it to him. He agreed to pay me first and asked me to ship the goods ASAP. Since I was busy for some time therefore I asked him to hold the payment and whenever I get free I'll send MOBO to him and he can pay me once he checks the mobo. I shipped him the Mobo on 28.05.2012 which was received by him on the next day. After a day I get a call from him saying that he is at some computer shop to get the mobo's display checked and also told that he can find the VGA input on the mobo , I told him kay bhai this MOBO has no onboard VGA and u have to get the display thorugh some PCI-E card. He is like "Yaar tum nay mujhay bataya nai k is main display post nahi now I have to buy a PCI card" I said " bhai you were the buyer you must know what you are buying" waisay bhi it can only be fault if as a seller I mention something that was not there, but this is not the case in this scenario. He asked me for how much he can the PCI card and all I directed him to PG user Gamerz who sells chep VGA cards and he purchased a PCI E card from him. Now on 03.06.2012 I get a positive rating from him. Getting this rating I contacted him and told him to send me the money due upon him Rs.1650/- and this was conversation that took place I gave him till 10th June as evident from the conversation, as it must be an honest mistake on part of buyer as he did not know about the VGA thing. Now on 12th June I again sent him a PM asking for money, following is the conversation that took place on PM:- Now later that day I told him that I have not got the money as of yet and he was like “Yaar ye tum nay konsa AC day diya hay MEEZAN to ATM main hay hi nahi option main Khuwar karadiya meray bhai ko…..Blah Blah……” I then asked him to send though Bank on Friday……..Now on Friday he calls me at 4:30pm “Yaar ab ye bank kahan hay Rawalpindi main mujhay nahi pata” I told him to go visit Meezan website and look for nearest branch he asked me to do it as he was out of home and told me “Yaar Sadar Rawalpindi ki branch ka batana main Sadar main hoon” I went online and SAHAB ko Meezan Bank ki sadar wali Branch ka bataya. Now at 5:30 I checked my account balance and cash was not received I SMS him asking for it and he says “abi karata hoon” I told him that bank timings are over and he was like “Yaar yum nay khuwar karadiya bank band hoga tumnay mujhay bataya nai yaar khuwar karadiya ……..Blah Blah.” I told him That Monday ko karadayna transfer. Now on Monday SYANCHAND 1500 rupees online karatay hain when asked kay bhai 1650 rupees karanay thay he is like “Yaar blah blal…mislay hi mislay……Lambi line…..blah blah………mislay hi mislay……..” I told him to pay me via easyload in my mobile number. CHALO BHAI ALLAH KAY SHUKAR SAY PAYMENT HOGAI PURI……..Shukar Alhamdulliah. Ab mera bhai asks for positive rating………..I gave him a neutral rating and as per the entire episode I judged him to be “Irresponsible “ ……….Because he ignore his liability. “Ignorant”………. He does not know what he is buying. AND lastly ……..”Deal carefully with him”………. Because he is a pain in the A@#. For that neutral rating he gave me a negative rating. MODS please look in to this as he has given me a false rating and pleases remove it. [MENTION=2126]Jshak[/MENTION] [MENTION=1]iNF3RN0[/MENTION] P.S. I had too much time to waste today so created this long long thread.

VERY FIRST LIE: I did NOT contact you,i didnt even have a PC back then,you contacted me remember,or did you change ur mind abt that too? 1: post the conversation we had last night,i clearly metioned what was what and if i remember correctly,till then you had no argument so since i got free today i will tag along with this "drama" im starring in 2: About the conversation we had thye night i got the mobo,i called and asked you about the VGa port,you said it was my fault which it was not since you had allready mentioned some specs in the thread of urs and did not mention about the VGA port on purpose. ANYWAYS,i clearly,VERY clearly told you,if i buy the Graphics card then i wont have enough money to pay you for the mobo,you said,koi masla nahi,jab paisay hon,tab send kar daina. After that i asked AGAIN, k are you sure? because i wont have cash for the next few weeks and AGAIN,you confirmed. 2: On the 3rd,i get the card, pls note,i got the card after 6 days almost,and gave you the rating,next day you contact me asking for money and thats when the first conversation took place but is it not complete bro? where is the beginning of it where i tell you that you promised to give me some time? Ap nay thread banaya hai,to kam az kam pori baat likho. Anyways after that it as in the above post,i told u wont have cash till 10th so will send the mobo instead and u tell me i allready got TS so send cash and again you missed a part here,after that i said something like,TS can be deleted,i told you before cash nahi ay ga itni jaldi and you agreed back then,now if you suddenly want it so fast then i cant deliver,mobo send kar don ga wapis agar cash na kar saka on the 10th. 3: Now pls refer to this site: Welcome to the official Website of FBISE . You can find the dates of the practicals of 2nd year pre medical which i was having and i was not even home untill the 15th morning. I can upload the datesheet which i have upon a request from either jshak or inferno 4:When the second convo took place,my brother was literally beside the ATM machine in the main branch of SCB at arnd 9-10 p.m while iwas having this convo with him. My brother called and told me that meezan bank is not on the list of the banks which you get after entering funds transfer section. Then i told him to select "To another account" hoping that it might work,it said "Request declined by user". After getting the same error 4 times my bro called me again,and i texted dark slayer here,and he said yar family k sath hon bad mei daikh lon ga,then i told him to check the account details or if something was wrong with it and he said yar bolo hai na abhi nahi kar sakta? Ghar ja kar check kar don ga. Excuse the language but You my friend did not give a shit at that time while my brother was standing in the bank at 10P.M for abt 40 mins. Anyways,i tell him k nahi ho raha,mei kal a kar khud kara don ga,he did not reply after that. Also,this above convo happened on 14th. 5:On the 15th i get back. Its Friday. After Jumma he calls me and tells me to go to Saddar right now and transfer the cash and then i tell him this: Sir,jumma hai,bank bohot door hai,i dont have any car or bike either,i can easy paisa you instead,full 1650/- within 20 mins,all the extra charges will be on me. Then HE says k nahi bank jao,bank free hai,online free ahi,i tell him my position and tell him again i can easy paisa you the amount for no extra charge right now because that shop is VERY near to me,he again said NAHI BANK JAO,at that point i tell him that i dont even know where Meezan bank is and he tells me to find it on net where i tell him there is no electricity and he says mei bata daita hon,i said ok if you insist to chala jata hon bank bhi. Then he Texts me one address of the bank. The time was arnd 3:40P.M i think. Anyways i go inside,finish my lunch that i was in the middle of and set out on HIS errand. PLS note: He could have easily gotten the full cash at that time without any extra charges but since either he was lazy or whatever he send my to the bank of HIS choice. I reach saddar arnd 4:30 p.m on foot,couldnt find any taxis on a friday evening. Anyways,i get there and start searching the bank road as his text said 47/something bankroad,thats it and i didnt know the hell it was just that the bank was on bank road RWL saddar. Anyways i look and look,ask any pindi member,how long is the distance from Block where Ghakar plaza was to the other side till the singapore plaza. I walked all that way searching for the bank,and then he texts me,ho gay transfer? and i reply nahi howay,dhond raha hon bank abhi tak. Bas 2 min or do. And in the next text he tells me the bank time is over and its closed. Where as i dont reply untill i get home which is arnd 6 or 7p.m. After reaching home,i see his text, k abb easy paisa kara do. At this mesage i wa soo pissed that i couldnt even think straight,is banday ki waja say mei last 3-4 ghanty say khawar ho raha hon or ab he is saying the same thing i said to him in the beginnning???? WOW!! SO as any normal person,i tell him k thats now gona happen unless you bear the charges which are 120rs.He says no you do it and back n forth for few messages. Then He says monday ko kara daina. 6: on monday i had to transfer the cash of 2 other members,i.e salmakhere and Alacadies,both SCB accounts.I did it in less then 10 mins and transferred arnd 17K in total. FOr his 1.65 K i go to meezan bank and text him ID ki copy bhi lagani paray ge ya sirf cnic number likhon? Because i dont have a copy atm. He didnt reply. SO i just do whats written,and get in the line,there were total of 4 people infront of me and it took more then an hour right there,so freaking slow that bank i tell you. Anyways i did not had a change of 5K so i just transfer 1.5K and ask him to check,then he says kam milay hain and i tell him i can easy load it to you or whatever you want and he says Ufone ka number hai mera,150rs ka easy load kar do which i do in the next few hours. Now,tell me here brother, i: what was my liability that i ignored? ii:I do not know what i am buying because YOU the seller are not giving me full info abt it,besides It was YOU who contacted me,i did not contact you. DO NOT FORGET THAT! And now he has a problem with me? iii: How exactly am i a pain in the ass? FIRST you promise to wait for a while for the cash and then you want it within 1 week? SECONDLY you give an account that isnt accessable other then the bank itself so how am i suppose to transfer it via atm which YOU told me to do? THIRDLY when there is a problem doing it you dont give a rats A$$. FORTH, you want your OWN method of payment to be done which when takes time you get pissed? Now for the second rating,i gave it to you because thats how i felt,mods can delete the 1st rating or if the second one then delete the one he gave me too,i simply want NO connection with people like him. I said you were Moody because you are,you change what ur saying according to ur mood,u dont stick to one thing. Said disrespectfull because of ur PM to me alst night. Inconciderate because thats what you are mate,you dont care abt other peoples problems or in what position they are in,you just want what you want suddenly for no reason like a child and if u dont get it then you cry about it. e.g...this thread Summary, -you promised to wait which you didnt -then you wanted the cash ASAP which wasnt possible. -when i tried sending the cash and there was problem you didnt care. -You could have used easy paisa but wanted bank and when it closed it was MY FAULT?? WHY? -You got ur fulll amount on monday just like i promised. -Still whinning abt it whe you get what you deserve. ANY other points?

 

[Jshak]

Okay both of you on skype tonight at 10 pm
junnaiebay

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[Jshak]

Shingami. You have 24 hours to respond to me on this.