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Necrokiller

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Case and point, you have called good old mua a Sony Pony on many-a-occasion. Yet I don't have PS+ either. I just get all my games from a retail store or digitally via sales.
You're a Sony Pony for various other reasons (defending Plus here being one of them). This just shows how Plus isn't really the best value proposition for most people. And you don't have to waste money first to realize that lol (you and I know this first hand :p)

Also worth noting there would be a subset (however small) of people who have multiple PS4's in a household, or upgraded to Pro's, who still have a singular PS+ account, and people also share accounts to play games (you and I know this first hand :p )
While we are entertaining possibilities, people could be using multiple Plus accounts on a single PS4 as well, however small. In the end, all your theories basically don't mean much. 64% of the userbase not subscribing definitely means something.
 
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Chandoo

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While we are entertaining possibilities, people could be using multiple Plus accounts on a single PS4 as well, however small. In the end, all your theories basically don't mean much. 64% of the userbase not subscribing definitely means something.​



The only thing it means is that you're clutching for straws here :p

First off, multiple PS+ accounts on a single console will be wasteful cause you can share as a parent/child account case on the same console anyway. Second, what percentage of PC's or people who casually play something on their PCs have Steam installed ? It's probably a lot less than 36% :p

Third, and going to an earlier point of how much I disagree with the PS+ = Digital game sales, this is from the PS4 100m topic.

This shows us that regardless of PS+, digital/online is the highest selling segment of PS sales, also network services like PS+ are a big chunk of Sony's PS family portfolio.

So regardless of the fake-concern, it seems like it's doing A-OK (y)




You're a Sony Pony for various other reasons (defending Plus here being one of them). This just shows how Plus isn't really the best value proposition for most people. And you don't have to waste money first to realize that lol (you and I know this first hand
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Different folks different strokes, what we don't find value in, other people might.
 

Chandoo

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bhai sahi kia kahaa hai pehle ye to bataoo

Necro logic " 64% of PS4 owners don't have PS+ therefore it is a completely useless service".

that's like saying 64% of gamers haven't played Witcher 3 therefore it's a completely useless game :laugh1:
 

Necrokiller

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Bhae mene to 64% userbase ko dissatisfied kaha.

Ab Chandoo ki comprehension service ko hi useless bana de to mera kya kasur :laugh1:
 

Chandoo

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bhai dissatisfied would imply people who bought and used it but didn't reup it. But annually 2~3 million gain hoarhe hain users and then users like janarioo who say they don't like it but still continue to get it :laugh1:

Matlab service nahi lii iska ye matlab nahi dissatisfied hain. I drive a Toyota, doesn't mean I'm dissatisfied with BMW :laugh1:

Dunya mai Necrokiller se zyada kisi ko fikr nahi Sony k liye.
 

Necrokiller

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Matlub you are satisfied with Plus but don't think its worth subscribing to? Ye to next level logic hai :tv:

BMW ki price se satisfied hote to Corolla na lete bhae :laugh1:
 

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64% of PlayStation 4 users doesn't have access to online gaming and don't want to pay for the subscription to use it.

What.the.FUCK.


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Chandoo

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Necro bhai apki logic ki daad. Matlab agar ek service k liye sign up nahi kare koi to automatically dissatisfied hojata hai apki book mai :laugh1:


And nahi before u say it, mai PS+ ko defend nahi kar raha, apki chawaliyaa dekh raha hu khali
 

Necrokiller

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Aur jo service ke liye na sign up kare wo satisfied aur wohi defend karre ke kamal value hai :laugh1:

Aisi chawal ke liye hi to aapko respond karta hu :p
 

Necrokiller

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64% of PlayStation 4 users doesn't have access to online gaming and don't want to pay for the subscription to use it.

What.the.FUCK.


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Pay $60 for a game and if you want to access the MP content on it that you already paid for, pay up Sony again.

$60 price over the console generation is like $420 (inb4 we can find dealz) , little do these people realise Sony already got another console's worth of money out of them :laugh1:

But hey its A-OK Sony puttin' up some numbers yo lol
 
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CerebralTiger

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Thats not helping your ratio
36.2 Million * 2 (account share) = 72.4 Million ps4 owners who have ps plus benefits ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Nowadays, quite literally every ps plus subscriber account shares with a sibling or a close friend.

Goal post shifting part of your "freebies"? :lol:
But but but...I was talking about your favorite subscription service. I mentioned xbox live gold in the very next sentence, which you omitted from the quote :lol:

$60 price over the console generation is like $420 (inb4 we can find dealz) , little do these people realise Sony already got another console's worth of money out of them :laugh1:
Let's fix these numbers, shall we. Ps plus subscriptions are regularly available for $40 on psn (not even talking about external offers). I have never paid over $40 for it, and I've been subscribed since the ps3 days. I've also been sharing my account and effectively splitting the cost of ps plus in half, bringing the price down to $20.

$20 * 7 (the number of years you used to come up with that hilarious total lol) = $140.

So, basically, by the end of this generation, I'd have spent $140 and gained access to 7 (# of years) * 12 (# of months) * 2 (number of free games offered each month on ps plus) = 168

Dollar to game ratio: 140/168 = 0.83, so even if the games offered in some months are mediocre, I can't complain because I pay less than $1 for each.

Damn, such an amazing deal. Keep up the good work, Sony!
 
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Necrokiller

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36.2 Million * 2 (account share) = 72.4 Million ps4 owners who have ps plus benefits
Just a while ago ~64 million people were not even interested in online gaming which apparently was the only reason to get PS Plus. Now suddenly each and every subscriber is sharing their account (lmao)

But but but...I was talking about your favorite subscription service. I mentioned xbox live gold in the very next sentence, which you omitted from the quote :lol:
But but but Im not the one paying for online gaming so I dont have any favorite subscription where I like to get scammed generation upon generation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ps plus subscriptions are regularly available for $40
This hilarious total is taken directly from your favorite hilarious official digital store:



https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/IP9101-NPIA90005_01-1YEARPACKAGE0000

7 years console generation until PS5: $59.99 x 7 = $419.93 (plus applicable taxes)

Well look at that. Sony already on the path to scamming more than a new consoles "sweet spot" worth of money from Plus loyalists. Nice job Sony :lol:
 

CerebralTiger

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Just a while ago ~64 million people were not even interested in online gaming
I didn't even use any figure. I said "not everyone cares about online gaming" :lol:

But but but Im not the one paying for online gaming so I dont have any favorite subscription
Last I checked, xbox game pass is a subscription, and you've expressed interest in it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

This hilarious total is taken directly from your favorite hilarious official digital store
Okay, so if you feel the standard non-sale price of $60 is a scam, how do you feel about the $20 a year that I spend (have spent ever since the launch of the ps4) on an annual ps plus subscription? That's what I want to know :hah:
 

Necrokiller

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I didn't even use any figure. I said "not everyone cares about online gaming" :lol:
While explaining why the rest of the 64 mil aren't subscribed :lol:

Last I checked, xbox game pass is a subscription, and you've expressed interest in it
Last I checked its not required for online gaming on PC.

Okay, so if you feel the standard non-sale price of $60 is a scam, how do you feel about the $20 a year that I spend (have spent ever since the launch of the ps4) on an annual ps plus subscription? That's what I want to know :hah:
You haven't been paying attention then. Scam is paying for online gaming whether it's your "$20" or the official $60. The official price of the yearly subscription for the 36.2 mil people isnt $20. Thanks for proving how desperately you need to lower the cost of the scam to feel better about paying for online gaming :lol:
 

CerebralTiger

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While explaining why the rest of the 64 mil aren't subscribed :lol:
I was speaking of those who don't gain from ps plus benefits. Those who share accounts with a subscriber aren't the ones who don't care about online gaming lol.

Last I checked its not required for online gaming on PC.
The only reason I occasionally play online with some friends on PC is exactly because it's free. Who on earth would want to pay to play on hacker heaven :lol:

Scam is paying for online gaming whether it's your "$20" or the official $60.
So paying $1.6 a month for access to 2 ps4 games is a scam. I never realized how much I liked scams. Please tell me how I can scam other services in this manner :hah:
 
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