Load balancing Stormfiber, Optix and Transworld together

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I just moved back to Pakistan and need a stable always working network connection and have used stormfiber in the past and they are excellent. Though I am used to 1GB speeds and need atleast 150mb to survive my household needs. I have in the past used two stormfiber connections with loadbalancing, however, I was enticed with Transworld and Optix better packages of 100MB and 60MB respectively.

I wanted to know whether Transworld and Optix are good enough with their claims and will there be any

I am open to spending Rs. 15k-20k per month for reliable 150+mb

please advise.

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pak2gamer said:
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Load balancing something like Transworld and Optix is pointless.

Optix gets it's bandwidth from Transworld anyway, so if TW is having issues, it'll affect Optix as well and then both your connections will go dead.

If you have to, get Transworld since they're independent bandwidth providers, and then either get PTCL or an ISP that gets it's bandwidth from PTCL. StormFiber for example, has that.

However, I think Optix also has a line from PTCL, so do confirm with them first before opting for their connection.
 
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murtaza12 said:
Load balancing something like Transworld and Optix is pointless. Optix gets it's bandwidth from Transworld anyway, so if TW is having issues, it'll affect Optix as well and then both your connections will go dead.
If you have to, get Transworld since they're independent bandwidth providers, and then either get PTCL or an ISP that gets it's bandwidth from PTCL. StormFiber for example, has that.
However, I think Optix also has a line from PTCL, so do confirm with them first before opting for their connection.
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Thank you. I have ordered one connection of Stormfiber. I'll go with Transworld for the other.

I am wondering if combining both will help my PINGs. Currently, I am using a Jazz Wifi and getting around 245 in Rocket League. It's playable, but not as smooth. FPS, I imagine would be worse.

And does anyone know any networking gurus who can help me setup the loadbalancing, since my networking guy is not in contact anymore, and I am not technically as well versed. Willing to pay for it.
 
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pak2gamer said:
Thank you. I have ordered one connection of Stormfiber. I'll go with Transworld for the other.

I am wondering if combining both will help my PINGs. Currently, I am using a Jazz Wifi and getting around 245 in Rocket League. It's playable, but not as smooth. FPS, I imagine would be worse.

And does anyone know any networking gurus who can help me setup the loadbalancing, since my networking guy is not in contact anymore, and I am not technically as well versed. Willing to pay for it.
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I'm going to tag a PG member who might be able to help, although he's not regularly active, so reply may not be immediate. [MENTION=135540]GenFaz[/MENTION]

You'll get significantly lower pings on Transworld and SF, pings to Europe should be around 140-150 ms and Asia (Singapore) will be 100-110 ms.
 
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Im using Optix and its perfect, no downtime and stable speeds without any fluctuations. Maybe you can ask them to offer you a custom 150 mbps package.
 
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murtaza12 said:
I'm going to tag a PG member who might be able to help, although he's not regularly active, so reply may not be immediate. @GenFaz

You'll get significantly lower pings on Transworld and SF, pings to Europe should be around 140-150 ms and Asia (Singapore) will be 100-110 ms.
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Hello!


Thanks @murtaza12 for your confidence in me ... though I believe there are others more experienced in this including yourself ... anyways ... I did have a go at combining multiple wan connections especially when Connectify Dispatch came around and made it easy ... it's sort of defunct now but available as other product(s) ... there are some things to consider in this case though:

- Load Balancing vs Channel Bonding for WAN
Load balancing (depending upon the algorithm) provides means to avoid congestion on a single wan connection by routing traffic via multiple wans in an efficient manner depending upon the algorithm chosen ... applications using many socket connections like p2p and some download accelerators can take benefit of multiple wan connections ... however, most other applications that don't won't get any benefit at all

Channel Bonding on the other hand combines the multiple wan connections in such a manner as to present itself as a single high speed wan connection ... though the usual trick in this case is that there is an endpoint in the cloud with single a fat pipe ... the traffic from the "client" side is broken up in smaller chunks that are delivered to the "cloud endpoint" over multiple wan connections (securely ... usually via vpn) where the small packets are stitched together and fed to the fat pipe residing in the data center ... obviously, the farther away the cloud endpoint is, the more latency is introduced in addition to the overheads of the processing and secure connection

- Hardware vs Software

There are many great SOHO load balancing routers ... Peplink has good reviews ... Peplink Balance 20 Dual-WAN Router and Peplink Balance 30 LTE Multi-WAN 4G LTE Router For Euro & Int'l Cellular Networks (BPL-031-LTE-E-T)
Also, from https://www.mushroomnetworks.com/truffle/

Ones from TP-Link, Mikrotik can also work well ... great community tutorials out there for Mikrotik

Custom/3rd party firmware for consumer grade routers like *wrt, tomato, etc... also enable multi wan load balancing on the cheap if you are comfortable trying different configurations ... there are also "router distros" like *sense, untangle, clearOS that can be run on a PC with multiple NICs that support load balancing

For WAN Channel Bonding, Peplink has the SpeedFusion (vpn) service and other vendors might have their own!

But, there is this Speedify (can try free) that I like because it is much simpler to use and one can even dedicate an old pc for the task ... combined with a router to share the bonded connection ... https://speedify.com/blog/combining-internet-connections/bonded-dsl-modem-router-guide/ ... though I would use an additional NIC connected to a Wireless Access Point (or wireless router in wap mode) instead of relying on a wifi dongle to share the connection as suggested in the guide!

Hope this helps!


Regards,
Ahmed
 
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GenFaz said:
Hello!


Thanks @murtaza12 for your confidence in me ... though I believe there are others more experienced in this including yourself ... anyways ... I did have a go at combining multiple wan connections especially when Connectify Dispatch came around and made it easy ... it's sort of defunct now but available as other product(s) ... there are some things to consider in this case though:

- Load Balancing vs Channel Bonding for WAN
Load balancing (depending upon the algorithm) provides means to avoid congestion on a single wan connection by routing traffic via multiple wans in an efficient manner depending upon the algorithm chosen ... applications using many socket connections like p2p and some download accelerators can take benefit of multiple wan connections ... however, most other applications that don't won't get any benefit at all

Channel Bonding on the other hand combines the multiple wan connections in such a manner as to present itself as a single high speed wan connection ... though the usual trick in this case is that there is an endpoint in the cloud with single a fat pipe ... the traffic from the "client" side is broken up in smaller chunks that are delivered to the "cloud endpoint" over multiple wan connections (securely ... usually via vpn) where the small packets are stitched together and fed to the fat pipe residing in the data center ... obviously, the farther away the cloud endpoint is, the more latency is introduced in addition to the overheads of the processing and secure connection

- Hardware vs Software

There are many great SOHO load balancing routers ... Peplink has good reviews ... Peplink Balance 20 Dual-WAN Router and Peplink Balance 30 LTE Multi-WAN 4G LTE Router For Euro & Int'l Cellular Networks (BPL-031-LTE-E-T)
Also, from https://www.mushroomnetworks.com/truffle/

Ones from TP-Link, Mikrotik can also work well ... great community tutorials out there for Mikrotik

Custom/3rd party firmware for consumer grade routers like *wrt, tomato, etc... also enable multi wan load balancing on the cheap if you are comfortable trying different configurations ... there are also "router distros" like *sense, untangle, clearOS that can be run on a PC with multiple NICs that support load balancing

For WAN Channel Bonding, Peplink has the SpeedFusion (vpn) service and other vendors might have their own!

But, there is this Speedify (can try free) that I like because it is much simpler to use and one can even dedicate an old pc for the task ... combined with a router to share the bonded connection ... https://speedify.com/blog/combining-internet-connections/bonded-dsl-modem-router-guide/ ... though I would use an additional NIC connected to a Wireless Access Point (or wireless router in wap mode) instead of relying on a wifi dongle to share the connection as suggested in the guide!

Hope this helps!


Regards,
Ahmed
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Quick question: Windows allows you to bridge connections. Isn't that the same thing, but with less tech involved?

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GenFaz

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Hello Again!

The recommended use case for a Network Bridge is as listed here: https://www.dell.com/support/articl...orking-proper-use-of-a-network-bridge?lang=en ... it can be useful to share your network connection with game consoles or tv boxes (similar to the client bridge mode option provided by some devices) ... though, again p2p applications can bind to different network interfaces, so these might work in any case!

Regards,
Ahmed
 
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