Xbox Series S and X Thread - Backwards Compatible like no other

[venom]

The Series S is in a weird situation. Being a digital-only console, it's a $100 cheaper than the PS5 digital edition, but with 40% as much gpu power, 60% as much memory (at lower bandwidth), and almost half as much storage space. The PS5 digital edition is great value for money in comparison.

Exactly, even though it seemed to be a good deal at the beginning it just seems to a very very bad deal in terms of the value you are getting from those 300 bucks.

 

[Chandoo]

Xbox hardware review embargo is up and now reviews for the console are starting to come out.

No Metacritic or Opencritic page unfortunately

Exactly, even though it seemed to be a good deal at the beginning it just seems to a very very bad deal in terms of the value you are getting from those 300 bucks.

Yeah, it was a legitimate contender for a cheap game pass machine in my eyes, but the more game related info starts coming out, the more we can see the cut-backs being more and more prominent. From missing RT to sub 1080p resolution etc.

 

[Chandoo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1324355151054983169

 

[IzHee]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1324317598494859265

We have a broken console already and it's not even out yet...

 

[CerebralTiger]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1324317598494859265

We have a broken console already and it's not even out yet...

Yikes!!

 

[CerebralTiger]

Microsoft is all about bringing Xbox to as many new users as possible, which means making Xbox games workable on more than just a console. It's a global view of the platform that the traditional core gamer might find difficult to accept. Xbox as a platform isn't just about the new kit we're reviewing today, it's just as much about gaming on PC. It's also about bringing in new users worldwide in territories that can't afford or can't access a console. This may well be why there is a more than a little element of conservatism about the design. Why produce a revolutionary controller if it makes the existing array of PC pads obsolete, or adds extra complications to gaming via the cloud? Why push SSD performance to the absolute max if it's going to cause issues for PC users? You can see where I'm going here.

Xbox Series X review: next generation games machine, continuity console - or both?

Microsoft's new flagship console has arrived, and Digital Foundry is here with the authoritative verdict on Xbox Series X hardware. If only there was more new s

www.eurogamer.net

Guru Leadbetter nicely sums up Microsoft's lousy approach.

 

[Chandoo]

Yeah, MS is playing it extremely safe with the XBSX.

 

[manigamer]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1324317598494859265

We have a broken console already and it's not even out yet...

wait for ps5

 

[Necrokiller]

Load times comparison for some BC games

Red Dead Redemption 2
- XSX: 1m4s
- PS5: 1m5s

FFXV
- XSX: 48s
- PS5: 1m10s

Destiny 2
- XSX: 42s
- PS5: 57s

MH World
- XSX: 35s
- PS5: 51s

Arkham Knight
- XSX: 58s
- PS5: 1m7s

PlayStation 5 vs Xbox Series X Load Times Comparison - GameSpot

www.gamespot.com

 

[Necrokiller]

Resume duration is really impressive on the X.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1324698049784918016

 

[IzHee]

SSD is removable and chips on it are by SanDisk (Western Digital is the owner now)


Edit: video is back up again.

 

[Chandoo]

video removed, what was it ?

 

[IzHee]

video removed, what was it ?

Pretty detailed teardown by Spawn wave.
Looks easier to disassemble at first but gets a little tricky later on.

Stand is removable but voids warranty.

Thicc heatsink and mid frame makes up majority of the weight of the console.

Pretty well built and he was surprised it's for $499

SSD is also removable but it remains to be seen of users can actually swap it with a different one.

 

[IzHee]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1325521370554523650

Trying to bury all the money spent on Master Chief's marketing here.
You can't wipe it away, Master Chief is engraved on the fan as well

 

[IzHee]

So apparently the SSD used on Xbox Series X is actually PCI-E Gen 3 SSD given that they're using off the shelf Western Digital SN530 1TB.

Microsoft claimed it to be Gen 4.

Doesn't even have DRAM cache which is required for sustained performance. Linus Tech Tips did a video on how bad DRAM cacheless SSD's can be, they can be slower than a HDD in some cases.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1325354617908113409

Sequential Read/Write
Up to 2,400/1,950 MB/s
Random Read/Write IOPS
Up to 400/400K
Form Factor
M.2 2280, 2242, 2230
Interface
PCIe Gen3 x4 NVMe v1.4
Endurance
400 TBW

Western Digital PC SN530 NVMe SSD | Western Digital

Versatile Options for Mobility and Innovation

www.westerndigital.com

 

[CerebralTiger]

So apparently the SSD used on Xbox Series X is actually PCI-E Gen 3 SSD given that they're using off the shelf Western Digital SN530 1TB.

Microsoft claimed it to be Gen 4.

Yikes!

 

[HYD3R]

so the beast is available for 125k here

 

[HYD3R]

so the beast is available for 125k here

 

[IzHee]

Console bricked by Microsoft for breaking embargo?? wat?
Or just a hardware failure ?

 

[venom]

Console bricked by Microsoft for breaking embargo?? wat?
Or just a hardware failure ?

I read somewhere that MS is OK with people getting their next gen earlier than the release date so its definitely not due to embargo. However, these cases of failed hardware is nothing new at launch I remember the same kinda news when PS4/Xbox one were being launched too. There was also a bestbuy video doing the rounds in which a ps5 was overheating so i dont think anything is legitimate at this point of time at least. We should wait at least a month after launch to see if there are indeed any hardware failures, although its hard to believe after the 360 debacle that any company Sony or MS would want to repeat that. But let's just reserve our opinion until the consoles are launched properly.