Thread limits (premium and normal members)

sufi

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Starting This again , i hope this time MODS take some action.
Previously Some Seniors do Vote for this but nothing is Done..

http://www.pakgamers.com/forums/f31/thread-limits-premium-normal-members-246446/

Well i want to point out a thing thats abit annoying for me .
There should be a limit of max 3 active ads per sections . If i someone(premium members) want to post more they should use their particular sections ..

Most of their premium shops are empty and they are over flooding main computer and hardware section with their tons of ads .. Few have 7-10 active ads and bumping together fills up the page with their ads ..

And this makes individual selling their items a hard time .. Becoz their single thread went down too quick becoz of these ..
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That has been on my mind for a while and I am open to suggestions for ways to implement it.

Here's the thing, since we do allow people to buy premium memberships in order to bulk sell, we can't then restrict them from posting within the main marketplace.

However, I think it would be a good idea to have them merge like products into one thread. That could be something doable but it would increase the workload for moderators.

Any suggestions about how to go about it?

P.S: Major revamps are coming soon! Stay tuned!! =)
 

sayyedsubhaan

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That has been on my mind for a while and I am open to suggestions for ways to implement it.

Here's the thing, since we do allow people to buy premium memberships in order to bulk sell, we can't then restrict them from posting within the main marketplace.

However, I think it would be a good idea to have them merge like products into one thread. That could be something doable but it would increase the workload for moderators.

Any suggestions about how to go about it?

P.S: Major revamps are coming soon! Stay tuned!! =)

Your attention is invited to the rules already in place :

Rule 15 :
Each member is now limited to creating 8 threads per 3 days in the marketplace.
2 threads for each section.
If you haven't used up your quota, not our problem, nothing will be carried on.

Rule 1(5).
Premium Sellers are advised to make most of their threads in the respective stores. Any thread that has more than 1 item mentioning in the Marketplace category, should be redirected to their stores . Premium sellers are advises to make 2 threads as per Marketplace category and their should follow the normal " Marketplace rules " for thread creation and bumping policy. This policy is promote other members than premium sellers to take advantage in the regular classified section.

I am not sure whats on your mind and what are you thinking to implement but a mechanism already exist. There is a need to understand and implement it across the board. Admn must realise and educate the moderators that a user after paying little sum of premium does not become the master. He still remains a user especially when comes to General Marketplace.*

Lastly, there are several free lance shopkeepers selling stuff more than those who pay the premium regularly. I dong see any practical steps to safeguard interests of premium sellers. A line has to be drawn between businessmen and end-users. Reduce the premium but enroll more business persons to generate revenue.

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Lord Ammar

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Your attention is invited to the rules already in place :

Rule 15 :
Each member is now limited to creating 8 threads per 3 days in the marketplace.
2 threads for each section.
If you haven't used up your quota, not our problem, nothing will be carried on.

Rule 1(5).
Premium Sellers are advised to make most of their threads in the respective stores. Any thread that has more than 1 item mentioning in the Marketplace category, should be redirected to their stores . Premium sellers are advises to make 2 threads as per Marketplace category and their should follow the normal " Marketplace rules " for thread creation and bumping policy. This policy is promote other members than premium sellers to take advantage in the regular classified section.

I am not sure whats on your mind and what are you thinking to implement but a mechanism already exist. There is a need to understand and implement it across the board. Admn must realise and educate the moderators that a user after paying little sum of premium does not become the master. He still remains a user especially when comes to General Marketplace.*

Lastly, there are several free lance shopkeepers selling stuff more than those who pay the premium regularly. I dong see any practical steps to safeguard interests of premium sellers. A line has to be drawn between businessmen and end-users. Reduce the premium but enroll more business persons to generate revenue.

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When admins don't know the rules they created themselves (lmao) Good job!
 

sufi

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Even their pictures show that they are taken in shops but still
And
My suggestion is to limit them to 2-3 Active threads , they cannot bump all or they get caught..
With current rule they can make upto 8-10 thread a month and can bump all once ..
And i saw a comment today about a guy having multiple accounts .. please take care of that too ..


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When admins don't know the rules they created themselves (lmao) Good job!
Actually, Jshak was managing Premium Sellers and rules pertinent to them. Since his stepping down, there hasn't been anyone who has taken his role and so things are a bit haphazard, with the new management still taking over, and the existing team trying to fill in the gaps.

I myself have never dealt with the premium sellers before, nor has anyone else on the current team, and, with my busy schedule, things are a tad too much, given the extra workload.

The admins that created the rules are no longer the admins, and so the transition has been to a team which is not fully aware of the existing rules pertinent to premium sellers. Yes, measures are being taken to get that in order, but, everything takes time.

Team PG requires the help and support of members, now, more than ever, to strive. "Since he's doing the wrong thing, I should do it too" is not the approach to fix things.

Remember, that everyone on Team PG was, is, and always will be a PG member first, and then a team PG member.
 

Lord Ammar

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Actually, Jshak was managing Premium Sellers and rules pertinent to them. Since his stepping down, there hasn't been anyone who has taken his role and so things are a bit haphazard, with the new management still taking over, and the existing team trying to fill in the gaps.

I myself have never dealt with the premium sellers before, nor has anyone else on the current team, and, with my busy schedule, things are a tad too much, given the extra workload.

The admins that created the rules are no longer the admins, and so the transition has been to a team which is not fully aware of the existing rules pertinent to premium sellers. Yes, measures are being taken to get that in order, but, everything takes time.

Team PG requires the help and support of members, now, more than ever, to strive. "Since he's doing the wrong thing, I should do it too" is not the approach to fix things.

Remember, that everyone on Team PG was, is, and always will be a PG member first, and then a team PG member.
How is it that the moderators of the marketplace forum are not aware of these rules? Don't they read the rules before they are appointed? @murtaza12 @staticPointer @Owi Khan

 
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How is it that the moderators of the marketplace forum are not aware of these rules? Don't they read the rules before they are appointed? @murtaza12 @staticPointer @Owi Khan

It's not a matter of them being aware of the rule or not. Here's the thing, up until now, premium sellers and their threads were not a problem of the marketplace mods, their matters were dealt directly by the marketplace admin. Things are being changed now, and we'll be putting up a revised (and more concise, and easier to read) rulebook. I'll be posting an announcement about this issue tonight or tomorrow IA.

I assure you guys, no voice ever goes unheard over hear and we all do our best, individually, to make this community better.
 

sayyedsubhaan

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I am back after many days. Did not see the announced major revamp. Not even minor one but talks. However observed the following;

√ Same complicated rule book.
√ No improvement about the issue raised by a member through this thread.
√ Most important Eid Mubarak and Bahawalpur Oil Tanker threads could get no attention. Very strange. Why people stopped participating? Those in policy making need to feel and think seriously.
 

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√ No improvement about the issue raised by a member through this thread.
Perhaps if you had read the announcement posted, you would've received the answer to this...

For the rulebook. Everything takes time. The moderators here are not employed fulltime by the website. We are all working individuals in different parts of the globe. Those not working are students (some are doing both).

We do what we can to help and support this platform as a courtesy, not as a legal obligation. In previous years, people used to be helpful and understanding. Now its quite the opposite lol. Its easy to criticise. I'm not saying this just to you, I'm saying this to everyone. Dont just criticise. Provide solutions, offer alternatives, provide help, where possible...
 

sayyedsubhaan

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Perhaps if you had read the announcement posted, you would've received the answer to this...

For the rulebook. Everything takes time. The moderators here are not employed fulltime by the website. We are all working individuals in different parts of the globe. Those not working are students (some are doing both).

We do what we can to help and support this platform as a courtesy, not as a legal obligation. In previous years, people used to be helpful and understanding. Now its quite the opposite lol. Its easy to criticise. I'm not saying this just to you, I'm saying this to everyone. Dont just criticise. Provide solutions, offer alternatives, provide help, where possible...
Sorry ! I have not read the announcement you referred to. Where it is? And I have not criticized but just gave my opinion after a brief visit of few relevant things. Those doing something for this forum are indeed doing a good social work and deserve appreciation. When you devote yourself voluntarily and undertake a task at your own, consider it like an obligation for best results.

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sayyedsubhaan

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Oh... Just found the announcement. Impressive.

With regard to induction of new moderator, I have a suggestion if you could look at it. Obviously it is just a suggestion.

Right now there are 5 or 6 names written on the marketplace. I suggest to engage 10 to 15 people for each marketplace section. Divide sections for them according to their interest and speciality.

However users may not be aware of the names of moderators. There should be only a button to "contact moderator". When I receive a message or warning, it should be from a moderator and I should not know who is he.

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sayyedsubhaan

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A policy was immediately announced after this thread. It however remain limited to announcement only but never implemented effectively. Right now if you visit marketplace, a premium seller has bumped his 8/10 advertisements in one go and occupied major portion of top one page. The policy makers seldom visit the sub-sections to check reality on ground.

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A policy was immediately announced after this thread. It however remain limited to announcement only but never implemented effectively. Right now if you visit marketplace, a premium seller has bumped his 8/10 advertisements in one go and occupied major portion of top one page. The policy makers seldom visit the sub-sections to check reality on ground.

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Its funny here I see you speaking of rules yet you have been writing in bump section of my marketplace thread hats off to ya
 

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A policy was immediately announced after this thread. It however remain limited to announcement only but never implemented effectively. Right now if you visit marketplace, a premium seller has bumped his 8/10 advertisements in one go and occupied major portion of top one page. The policy makers seldom visit the sub-sections to check reality on ground.

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The rule was announced and implemented but later stopped because of some technical troubles over the last two months. Finally things have been resolved and now there are changes coming up that won't require such moderation because the things will be all back end controlled. Work is ongoing even if slow. This is a side work for all of us and none of us get paid so there's that...
 
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