Thoughts on Vaccine Conspiracy Theories regarding Covid 19 including Bill Gates and Fauci?

[EternalBlizzard]

So if anybody doesn't know, there are lots of so called conspiracy theories going around regarding the whole COVID-19 issue. The main figureheads that are speaking up on this issue from a really different perspective are Dr. Judy Mikovits and Dr. Rashid Buttar and you can actually find an interview of Dr. Rashid and around 100+ more doctors agreeing on the perspective he presents.

You can watch the video here, it's free to subscribe.
https://londonreal.tv/dr-rashid-buttar-hosts-a-doctors-covid-19-roundtable-1000-voices-strong/

Even if we believe that all of this is just a conspiracy theory and nothing more, the fact that Youtube, Facebook and other platforms are banning these sorts of videos does make me think that something really is going on xD

Long story short, the theory says that the COVID-19 virus is actually synthetically made and research on it was going on a couple of years ago using the Gain Of Function approach which is basically trying to make a virus more deadly. The US govt then banned that approach but Dr. Fauci outsourced this by funding some billion/million dollars to the laboratory at Wuhan and that's where it originated. Now whether this was strategically released or a mishap is still not discussed. What is clear, is that the main goal is to have a vaccine which is then gonna be forced on the whole world and people are not gonna be allowed to travel unless they take the vaccine and so and so. So basically more control. Secondly the vaccine that's most likely gonna be adopted is based on an mRNA approach which is Bill Gates' idea and it basically edits your genes or DNA and has never been tested on animals.

Since we have many members that actually reside outside Pakistan, would like to hear their thoughts as well as to what's going on there or whether they have heard about this or it's the first time they are hearing about theories like this.

EDIT:- So I thought I'd list down some things as actual facts which most conspiracy theories use them as a base to dish out some more things that are controversial.

1) The whole mRNA vaccine idea being supported by Gates and the talk that it has not been tested on animals ever before is a fact. It's also a fact that vaccines take very long to get rolled out like 5-10 years until they are produced and tested effectively. So basically everyone says it all over the net, no dispute over it. Now whether or not they are gonna give it to humans without testing is a controversial topic.

2) The funding to Wuhan Lab is a fact but the connection to what the funding was for is a controversial topic.

3) The whole vaccines not being safe is also another fact ( which is what the main figureheads talk about mostly) as in 2018 Robert F kennedy filed a lawsuit against Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) regarding vaccine safety and DHHS had to admit that they had never once submitted a report on vaccine safety improvement over the past 30 years or so which is pretty mandatory.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-11-11-rfk-jr-wins-case-us-government-vaccine-safety-violations.html

4) And one update is that Trump has announced to stop funding WHO as according to him

"I am directing my administration to halt funding while a review is conducted to assess the World Health Organization's role in severely mismanaging and covering up the spread of the coronavirus

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52291654

 

[manigamer]

dunno man things are getting worse for pk i can see. cases gone far more higher than what italy and spain were or are reporting i heard plus my chugtai labs near me the covid 19 check up lane was empty whenver i passed it by in ramadan etc but now today i passed by it and there the line of cars was filled they were literally marking cars for which would come up next for the check up damnnn man

 

[EternalBlizzard]

dunno man things are getting worse for pk i can see. cases gone far more higher than what italy and spain were or are reporting i heard plus my chugtai labs near me the covid 19 check up lane was empty whenver i passed it by in ramadan etc but now today i passed by it and there the line of cars was filled they were literally marking cars for which would come up next for the check up damnnn man

That's true tho, things really are getting worse for us. Plus there really is a lot of confusion going on as well. Nobody knows what to do. Take the masks thing as an example, some people stick to masks like it can definitely save your ass, some people wear it half heartedly just covering their mouths and some people (like me) don't wear it at all xD

Dunno I just feel like it makes things worse since you are breathing back most of the CO2 you just respirated out and it makes you all fiddly. Funny thing is Dr. Fauci said the public should not wear masks in March then is seen promoting to wear it now. Yea,h when the guy at the top doesn't know what he is talking about, what can you expect from the people :lol:


And thoughts people, thoughts. We need some words here, rather than just plain voting xD Dish your thoughts here why do you think there is something going on or not.

 

[manigamer]

uhhh i think not wearing a mask in these times outside should be made a criminal offence yes i believe in this corona thing its real and people are dying. its contagious coz it spreads quite easily like a common flu but it is much more dangerous than that. if you dont like wearing the mask buddy than you gonna hate the ventilator ! ALLAH MAAF KARAY

 

[NaNoW]

So if anybody doesn't know, there are lots of so called conspiracy theories going around regarding the whole COVID-19 issue. The main figureheads that are speaking up on this issue from a really different perspective are Dr. Judy Mikovits and Dr. Rashid Buttar and you can actually find an interview of Dr. Rashid and around 100+ more doctors agreeing on the perspective he presents.

You can watch the video here, it's free to subscribe.
https://londonreal.tv/dr-rashid-buttar-hosts-a-doctors-covid-19-roundtable-1000-voices-strong/

Even if we believe that all of this is just a conspiracy theory and nothing more, the fact that Youtube, Facebook and other platforms are banning these sorts of videos does make me think that something really is going on xD

Long story short, the theory says that the COVID-19 virus is actually synthetically made and research on it was going on a couple of years ago using the Gain Of Function approach which is basically trying to make a virus more deadly. The US govt then banned that approach but Dr. Fauci outsourced this by funding some billion/million dollars to the laboratory at Wuhan and that's where it originated. Now whether this was strategically released or a mishap is still not discussed. What is clear, is that the main goal is to have a vaccine which is then gonna be forced on the whole world and people are not gonna be allowed to travel unless they take the vaccine and so and so. So basically more control. Secondly the vaccine that's most likely gonna be adopted is based on an mRNA approach which is Bill Gates' idea and it basically edits your genes or DNA and has never been tested on animals.

Since we have many members that actually reside outside Pakistan, would like to hear their thoughts as well as to what's going on there or whether they have heard about this or it's the first time they are hearing about theories like this.

EDIT:- So I thought I'd list down some things as actual facts which most conspiracy theories use them as a base to dish out some more things that are controversial.

1) The whole mRNA vaccine idea being supported by Gates and the talk that it has not been tested on animals ever before is a fact. It's also a fact that vaccines take very long to get rolled out like 5-10 years until they are produced and tested effectively. So basically everyone says it all over the net, no dispute over it. Now whether or not they are gonna give it to humans without testing is a controversial topic.

2) The funding to Wuhan Lab is a fact but the connection to what the funding was for is a controversial topic.

3) The whole vaccines not being safe is also another fact ( which is what the main figureheads talk about mostly) as in 2018 Robert F kennedy filed a lawsuit against Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) regarding vaccine safety and DHHS had to admit that they had never once submitted a report on vaccine safety improvement over the past 30 years or so which is pretty mandatory.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-11-11-rfk-jr-wins-case-us-government-vaccine-safety-violations.html

4) And one update is that Trump has announced to stop funding WHO as according to him

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52291654

Yaar all of that is a elaborate conspiracy theory, based on confirmation bias of taking limited supporting evidence. Covid - 19 is an actual disease, there is 0, 0 evidence of "Long story short, the theory says that the COVID-19 virus is actually synthetically made and research on it was going on a couple of years ago" or "The US govt then banned that approach but Dr. Fauci outsourced this by funding some billion/million dollars to the laboratory at Wuhan and that's where it originated"

 

[AbbY]

Dunno I just feel like it makes things worse since you are breathing back most of the CO2 you just respirated out and it makes you all fiddly. Funny thing is Dr. Fauci said the public should not wear masks in March then is seen promoting to wear it now. Yea,h when the guy at the top doesn't know what he is talking about, what can you expect from the people :lol:

You do know that air is exchanged through the pores, and by the magical principles of diffusion and infinite dilution, the CO2 you expel is not inhaled, unless you're wearing a plastic bag on your face and calling it a mask, right?

As for Dr. Fauci, that's because not just the guy at the top, NO ONE knows much about this virus. There's a reason it's called a novel virus. Research leads to new findings, and previous norms get outdated, and sometime things previously considered right are found to be criminally wrong. Exactly like medical (and pretty much every) science, in general. People used to take Mercury based medicines for constipation, amidst a plethora of other more serious conditions. I believe it was called the Blue Mass (?). Today, we know Mercury is a toxic heavy metal that leads to death, eventually. Point being, we can't just throw one theory, considered/known to be valid today, out of the park, simply because "experts" claimed otherwise, 3, 4 months ago. Times change, research and findings change, and most importantly, viruses and diseases evolve and mutate. What is valid today might not be valid in 3 months, and vice versa.

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[MENTION=695]haroonshaikh[/MENTION] saw you voted yes up there. Would be keen to hear what you have to say about this...whole global situ, as a doctor!

 

[LiV3 WiR3]

Some of the conspiracies are complete horseshit like the 5G one. I don't even understand how people came to that conclusion. Other conspiracies like the one which says that the govt & media are giving us false & exaggerated data make way more sense. Anyways, I believe the truth is somewhere in between what the govts are telling us VS the conspiracies. You can't trust everything the govt is telling you blindly (they've never given us a reason to).

 

[EternalBlizzard]

You do know that air is exchanged through the pores, and by the magical principles of diffusion and infinite dilution, the CO2 you expel is not inhaled, unless you're wearing a plastic bag on your face and calling it a mask, right?

Really didn't know bout that XD gonna search on it. But personally speaking, I don't think masks are worth it. The normal masks aren't because they won't be able to stop those aerosols anyway, while the N95 and all those is a bad idea as it's gonna cause a shortage. Doctors need it more. Normal people aren't walking around dozens of people coughing at their faces. Masks were designed for people that are coughing/sneezing to stop their droplets from spreading into air, not the otherway around.

There are actually much more reasons to not wear them than wearing them. General public doesn't know the proper way to wear them and to take them off, 95% of them would just touch the outer of the masks with their hands which destroys the very reason to wear them, and it's gonna make you uncomfortable and all fiddly causing you to touch your face more which is more dangerous. I think the best measure the general public can do is to just keep washing hands regularly and reserve the masks for people who are tending the sick and health care workers. And this isn't just my opinion but the opinion of plenty of doctors as well.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article240780786.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/health/coronavirus-n95-face-masks.html

Some of the conspiracies are complete horseshit like the 5G one. I don't even understand how people came to that conclusion. Other conspiracies like the one which says that the govt & media are giving us false & exaggerated data make way more sense. Anyways, I believe the truth is somewhere in between what the govts are telling us VS the conspiracies. You can't trust everything the govt is telling you blindly (they've never given us a reason to).

True, some people take it as far as 5G causes Covid, but the panel I heard, was talking more around the lines that 5G is certainly dangerous and I also heard that 200+ scientists or so signed a paper for not rolling it out since we don't know its side effects yet. I also think that the truth lies somewhere in between. Well atleast I'd give the conspiracy theorists a +1 for always bringing out an absurd perspective. Makes you wanna search for what's the truth.

 

[EternalBlizzard]

Yaar all of that is a elaborate conspiracy theory, based on confirmation bias of taking limited supporting evidence. Covid - 19 is an actual disease, there is 0, 0 evidence of "Long story short, the theory says that the COVID-19 virus is actually synthetically made and research on it was going on a couple of years ago" or "The US govt then banned that approach but Dr. Fauci outsourced this by funding some billion/million dollars to the laboratory at Wuhan and that's where it originated"

Can be. But you atleast gotta admit that there is something going around behind the scenes, the way they spread misinformation. And I don't get why would all the platforms start banning all these videos if they really are *just* a conspiracy theory. The way the persecute these guys tells something entirely else.

Then there is another talk about the privacy being breached through smartphone tracking. Edward Snowden told that a couple of years back, and now we are seeing the practical implementation as South Korea/Taiwan and maybe others as well track the public through smartphones. It might seem like a good thing for now but it can also be that this becomes the new normal even after emergency passes. here's the video if you didn't see it.

 

[haroonshaikh]

With improvements in healthcare and prevailing world peace, the only way people would die now was through a Virus. Its just a system of nature. Whenever the number of people will exceed the resources of the planet, a new balance would come into play. There will be survival of the fittest.
The virus might very well be released on purpose but irrespective of its source, its real, its dangerous and its doing what its supposed to do. I think even the vaccine is present. It would just be announced 6-8 months after and then they would make billions off it.
In near future, you would not be allowed to travel, go to gym, sit in restaurants if you are not vaccinated.

This disease is true and we need to be careful. I personally think that I am going to buy a complete radiation Hazmat suit and Respirator myself. Its Corona today. Tomorrow it could be something even more fatal. !!!