PC There is some serious issue with Internet in Pakistan from past 2+ months data stops causing issue with discord and p2p games

Simonsayz

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lthe issue is UDP packets are getting interrupted
in VOIP and Online Games
Talking about VOIP & VPN specifically, there is a lot more info to this than this article says, can't discuss here but VOIP and VPN are heavily monitored.




To monitor and curbing “grey traffic” — which includes Voice over Internet Protocol and Virtual Private Networks — the PTA has deployed a sophisticated web monitoring system.

The equipment, which is worth $18.5m, is provided by Canada-based company Sandvine. The web monitoring system will use Deep Packet Inspection (DPI) to monitor communications, measure and record traffic on behalf of the PTA.

“This system will facilitate in the identification and eradication of grey traffic causing huge loss to the national exchequer, and internet content management as mandated under Clause 37 of Prevention of Electronic Crimes Act, 2016,” the authority said in a press release in October last year.
 

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interesting....I wonder if its somehow Pakistani govt trying to monitor internet usage
It is related to that yes, legitimate traffic is getting flagged and tagged and its causing these 'random' issues.

p.s Same thing, same cause, just done a little more discreetly now and a little more optimized hence you won't see everyone complaining about it and most putting it down to their own ISP's issues.

https://www.pakgamers.com/index.php?threads/pta-rant-thread.189871/post-3006361

From what little testing that I did on PTCL and transworld. You'll see a pattern that traceroutes are fine and ping to the server IP is fine but few seconds into the game, you'll start dropping packets in-game (ping/traceroutes still normal).

My first assumption was there might be some issue with the common upstream of transworld or PTCL but that is not the case. Then I moved onto the possibility of MITM happening within PK since this has happened before, I mean just go through this old thread.

For whatever reason, our game specific traffic is getting tagged and dropped causing the packet loss. Likewise, do an international skype or whatsapp call, it'll be pretty poor with the recipient getting very poor audio from our end, this too starts happening few seconds into the call. The odd thing here is that the occurrence of this happening increases a lot during the usual peak times of ~8pm-12am and is only sporadic on some games but is happening overall with everyone.
I don't think they're doing it on purpose, we're just collateral for now till they figure out their new toy lol
 
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let's not take the argument into wrong direction , i have tested these things in past months for every possible angle

and every time the results were that there is no issue with speed , the issue is UDP packets are getting interrupted


if you connect a vpn even vpn packets are getting interrupted now started in past month , i have tested it with my own private vpn servers on google cloud and servers hosted in germany as well as many privet vpn providers as well as Cloudflare Warp and i am not that guy who fixes his internet by turning it on and off i kinda know what i am talking about here and it has nothing to do with more users it's was working perfectly fine before ramdan 2021

for anyone who does not know what UDP it's protocol used in VOIP and Online Games

Discord is very unusable right now, robotic voice, ping spikes etc. Did you find any solution to this problem? I was planning to get ExpressVPN to check if it makes it better or not. I live in Islamabad and my isp is Nayatel, my friends on PTCL and Nayatel are all facing this issue.
 

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Anyone find a solution to fixing Discord voice calls?

The one short-fix I found was manually switching voice channel region (for DMs, you can set this on the computer or in desktop mode from your phone via a browser by going to the discord chat link to the DM with your Discord friend. For servers, you can edit voice channel server location if you have the right perms). This seems to fix the problem elaborated in the following paragraph temporarily by setting a preferred server on Discord, thereby negating our internet's constant re-routing attempts (ending/leaving the call will make you set the preferred server again). I understand VOIP is being monitored but I believe the drop in packets / connection quality is mainly because of the constant rerouting at the ISPs' end, perhaps as advised by PTA.

This argument is maybe further supported by the fact that each time you start a voice call on Discord, your voice channel will be a different region every few minutes (or seconds, depending). You can check this on desktop mode for DMs, like I said earlier. What's causing the robotic audio in Discord calls is that every few minutes, for some reason, our internet re-attempts to find the lowest ping voice server on Discord against Discord's own preset/default server. During this re-attempt, some packets sent are lost (lasts about 2-5 seconds, sometimes longer). The long term solution is most likely to contact the ISP and identify how and why rerouting is working for VOIP (PTCL calls it Fast Fath for example) and "disable" it.

ISP: Optix
Location: Lahore
Problem happening since: June 2021
 
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EternalBlizzard

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Discord voice calls work when you change the region for a little while but you get problems again. We are using steam chat for voice calls now. Works perfectly.

Btw, im a total noob in this area.When you say they are monitoring the communications, you mean they are literally recording these voice calls perhaps based on certain keywords or they are just checking where the packets are going?
 

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Discord is very unusable right now, robotic voice, ping spikes etc. Did you find any solution to this problem? I was planning to get ExpressVPN to check if it makes it better or not. I live in Islamabad and my isp is Nayatel, my friends on PTCL and Nayatel are all facing this issue.
I also face a similar problem and I bought nord, express and surfshark vpn every three of them didn't work. My ISP is nayatel and I live in Islamabad. I can't play apex without a vpn though and it is frustrating
 

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What I have noticed is that even with ExitLag connected the outbound packet loss (ping spiking to 5000) is STILL there on discord but your voice doesn't sound robotic/is interrupted.
 

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im on optix and also facing the same issues. i play on a US east based minecraft server and from around 9pm-12am it is literally unplayable. discord also does not work properly. exitlag has fixed discord but the server is still unplayable even with exitlag during the time frame. also facing packet loss and ping fluctuationon other eu,SEA and ME servers during this time
 

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Discord with Pakistani friends works horribly - to an extent that need to switch to zoom or something for semi okay call quality
 

Hamza Waqar

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Any fix for destiny 2 that doesnt involve me paying for anything?. and is there any word from PTA on when this shit is gonna end
 

Hamza Waqar

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Try 1.1.1.1 vpn fro cloudflare its free , it does disconnect randomly but as long as its conectef you won't face issue in destiny 2 or discord
So I tried cloudfares vpn and it doesnt even connect for me. just using the dns works but has no effect and the vpn doesnt even connect so i cant even see if it fixes the destiny 2 problem. do you happen to know why?
 

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Even Rainbow 6 Siege is unplayable, I get stable 35-40ms ping with zero packet loss to Dubai server but the consistent rubber banding makes it unplayable, there is a 50% chance of rubber banding issue in certain matches and it happens every time in ranked which has costed me some games. The voice chat is also blocked and unless I use ExitLag its absolutely unplayable. This is just messed up. Now I understand why my friend from KSA was complaining that he was unable to clearly hear me on discord. This country is literally hell for gamers.
 

Hamza Waqar

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Even Rainbow 6 Siege is unplayable, I get stable 35-40ms ping with zero packet loss to Dubai server but the consistent rubber banding makes it unplayable, there is a 50% chance of rubber banding issue in certain matches and it happens every time in ranked which has costed me some games. The voice chat is also blocked and unless I use ExitLag its absolutely unplayable. This is just messed up. Now I understand why my friend from KSA was complaining that he was unable to clearly hear me on discord. This country is literally hell for gamers.
yea this siege voice chat problem is also one of the things that is affected. tbh ive noticed that every game that uses AWS servers have problems in pakistan. for example siege, destiny 2 , apex legends
 
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