[OT] .::The Official 3G/4G LTE Thread::.
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Has anyone tried Jazz Make Your Own Bundle. Is its better than Telenor My Djuice Offer?
Make Your Own Bundle - Jazz
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MY DJUICE OFFER
Make Your Own Bundle - Jazz
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MY DJUICE OFFER
Terms and conditions look the same, and there is no way of knowing if the bundles are better or not because Mobilink won't let you use it through a web portal.
What we could do is set a predefined criteria, and then post the samples. But it would be easy for Mobilink prepaid customers (since they have access to the service), and use Telenor's website to see the corresponding Djuice price.
One advantage I can see which goes in Mobilink's favor: the per minute charges for out of bundle calls are cheaper (I think).
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I just this test today at Chandni Chowk, Rawalpindi. I was on a open road, there were no obstacles but still got very weak 3G speed via Telenor.
Till now, I came to conclusion that Jazz-Warid is awesome in terms of speed and signal strength in RWP/ISB. It's 2G is almost always at full inside the house but i rarely get 4G indoor. While Telenor has weak signals indoor but it randomly jumps to 3G a lot when i go to drawing room which is close to our porch. So Telenor has better indoor coverage.
Till now, I came to conclusion that Jazz-Warid is awesome in terms of speed and signal strength in RWP/ISB. It's 2G is almost always at full inside the house but i rarely get 4G indoor. While Telenor has weak signals indoor but it randomly jumps to 3G a lot when i go to drawing room which is close to our porch. So Telenor has better indoor coverage.
Could one of you B*S users do me a favor and either post their bill or PM me for this month?
I'd like to confirm my suspicions about my capped speed issue.
Thanks
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I'd like to confirm my suspicions about my capped speed issue.
Thanks
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I think Djuice is cheaper.
Btw This is the kind of discussion about the packages on all the networks that might actually benefit the users here.
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Haven't received my ebill yet my invoice is generated.
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Apparently, someone has disable my 3G services ..[MENTION=126214]fazal10001[/MENTION]
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3G Blackberry was unsubscribed without any notice on 5th January. I've been getting capped speeds since 5th January.
Helpline people don't even know what I'm talking about.
I have three options now ( based on the assumption that 3G B*S is enabled automatically once you subscribe to B*S ). Either disable B*S and then enable it again, or unsubscribe from B*S and get Postpaid data packages, or get a new postpaid number.
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I
have checked both
telenor is significantly cheaper
for the same package of
100 min any network
1 gb net
10,000 sms
telenor is 222
jazz is 252
People on Mobilink (Jazz) postpaid how do you pay your bills?
If you pay your bills online do you use your phone number as the consumer no. in payments section in Internet banking ? Or is the customer no. on your bill your consumer no. on Internet banking?
Any help would be very helpful. Thank you. I think I just lost 600 rups.
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If you pay your bills online do you use your phone number as the consumer no. in payments section in Internet banking ? Or is the customer no. on your bill your consumer no. on Internet banking?
Any help would be very helpful. Thank you. I think I just lost 600 rups.
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I pay via my Askari bank mobile app. When I select Mobilink postpaid from mobile payment section, it asks me for mobile number. When I enter my mobile number and press OK, it automatically pick my current month bill. Like this month my bill was 1549 rupees. When I enter my number it auto picked payable amount and showed that my payable bill is 1549 and asked me to pay. When I click on pay bill my bill paid and amount deducted from my account. Even I received sms on my number from jazz that my bill has paid.
Same goes for HBL mobile app
If you are facing some issue lodge a complaint to your bank that you have paid bill via internet banking and have not received on mobilink end. They will either return your amount or pay your bill.
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Thanks for the help!
I paid through meezan bank Internet banking. I selected Mobilink postpaid and then it asked me for consumer no. so I entered my postpaid mobile number. There was no auto detection which usually happens when I pay gas bills. The payment went through and I have a e-receipt. I did not get a message of payment from Jazz or any update on *1111#However on Jazz Bill on the top right it says customer no. 1-××××××..... so I am confused as to whether I should have mentioned customer no. as consumer no.?
When I transfer money to Jazz prepaid I just enter my mobile number as consumer no. In Meezan Internet banking and I instantly get the credit on that particular Jazz number.
Life sucks! Now have to go to bank tomorrow to sort this. :-(
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Call them?Thanks for the help!
However on Jazz Bill on the top right it says customer no. 1-××××××..... so I am confused as to whether I should have mentioned customer no. as consumer no.?
When I transfer money to Jazz prepaid I just enter my mobile number as consumer no. In Meezan Internet banking and I instantly get the credit on that particular Jazz number.
Life sucks! Now have to go to bank tomorrow to sort this. :-(
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I pay it through MCB online banking. There's only one option that is to enter the number and thats it and its paid instantly like i get the message on my number that the payment has been received against my bill
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I pay through JazzCash. I keep like 4-5k in the account usually in case I need to easyload on a friend's number and to pay my postpaid bill.
Under 18, no bank account. Sadlyf.
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I just this test today at Chandni Chowk, Rawalpindi. I was on a open road, there were no obstacles but still got very weak 3G speed via Telenor.
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Till now, I came to conclusion that Jazz-Warid is awesome in terms of speed and signal strength in RWP/ISB. It's 2G is almost always at full inside the house but i rarely get 4G indoor. While Telenor has weak signals indoor but it randomly jumps to 3G a lot when i go to drawing room which is close to our porch. So Telenor has better indoor coverage.
When I earlier asked people to use the app and tell me what shows on the screen, there was a reason for it.
Here's the thing: 3G is deployed in chunks of 5Mhz, as the bare minimum, and this leads to limited speeds (at most, you can get HSPA+ where the theoretical peak speed is 21 Mbps). In order to go higher, you need to implement Dual Carrier HSPA+, and they use two 5Mhz bands of spectrum concurrently to improve speeds (this website - the first website I linked above - says the spectrum has to be adjacent whilst a newer 3G release states that spectrums in different bands can be used for the same effect).
Mobilink uses DC-HSPA+ whilst Telenor only uses HSPA+ (no dual carrier). In short, you can get roughly double the speeds on Mobilink for this very reason. I found this slideshow and took a screenshot, which proves this. For the nerds (I gave up at this part), this relies on MIMO (multiple in, multiple out) transmission. I'm not touching that even with a 10 foot pole, sorry. I don't get paid to read up on technology that goes above my head and drives me mad like how spectrum is computed and what-not.
On the same subject, there was one more oddity I observed (I couldn't confirm from the internet, but my guess is that it's true?). Here's why I say:
- Mobilink 3G, in its resting state: http://imgur.com/a/yWmfL. See how it says WCDMA, and the signal readings are -99.5dBm and SNR is -11.1 dB.
- Mobilink 3G, with some data transmission: http://imgur.com/a/PDvMh. Do you see how the SNR jumped up? I tested this more than a few times, and each time, the SNR improved by about 4dB. The signal strength seems to improve, but I think that was more of a random occurrence than a pattern. SNR increased EVERY TIME I engaged in some data transmission. EVERY TIME!
- On the other hand, here's Telenor 3G, resting state: http://imgur.com/a/uC6oe - see the SNR and signal dBm.
- And Telenor 3G, with data being transmitted: http://imgur.com/a/fBUKL - see how the SNR doesn't improve? (I think the signal strength improving was more of a random occurrence again).
So power levels may have an impact, I don't think that's the reason. SNR is better (anecdotally and apparently) because of dual carrier tech Mobilink is using. And since Wikipedia says that a newer release of the 3G specification allows carriers to use 5Mhz in different bands, MAYBE (I think I'm expecting too much) Telenor could do something like this and bolster the speeds in the near future with their 850Mhz spectrum? And if they don't, I read it's because conventionally, they need two contiguous 5Mhz bands for DC (i.e. 10 Mhz consecutively) - which Telenor doesn't have but Mobilink and Zong do - unless Telenor does some upgrades (and then, again, I don't know if this is backward compatible with all phones). Oh, and DC-HSPA+ also improves latency (Telenor 3G has fluctuating latency - DC improves that)
I think this answers the question why Telenor doesn't perform as well as Mobilink (after so, so many posts), and why Mobilink can offer double speeds. It's because of DC-HSPA+ (and everything else) and Mobilink is using newer tech to bring those speeds.
Enjoyed the ride? I certainly learned a lot of information which won't help me in my career (anybody want to give me a job?) but I certainly didn't enjoy the ride! I'd like to go back to Mobilink with better speeds and reliability. Just fix your billing systems!
One more thing before I finish: Telenor wasn't allowing simultaneous voice and calls in Rawalpindi, but was allowing them in Islamabad today (they weren't even working yesterday in Islamabad). I don't know why, but if people are hoping they can use this feature, stop. It's inconsistent. No point. Telenor, like other Pakistani companies, have crippled 3G (although selectively, so that's a plus...?)
For HBL, we ask for the consumer number, but enter the phone number and the amount you want to recharge it with (it can be any random amount). Everything is done through the phone number, and I get a confirmation from the bank as well as Mobilink (or used to) that my bill has been paid. It's not working with Telenor though.
Doing some shameless HBL Promotion (I can't believe I'm doing this - OMG I'm so sad!): HBL iD (for 18-24 year olds, university students etc.) and HBL MoneyClub (but they probably don't have internet banking).
BUT - with these products, the features and allowances are limited.
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