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manigamer

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@faraany3k dude did you even play the first part ? tommy is a returning character lol as is maria her wife.

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as for spoon feeding each and every thing to the user, sometimes things are left to the users interpretations. just like the ending, i thought ellie came back and dina has left just like she said she would and now i gotta see the ending part again to realize whats what. so its not the same experience for everyone and i like it this way.

the part where abby doesn't kill ellie, than ellie at end doesn't kill abby, you gotta dig deep yourself and realize that if you haven't already by playing the game.
 

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@faraany3k dude did you even play the first part ? tommy is a returning character lol as is maria her wife.

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as for spoon feeding each and every thing to the user, sometimes things are left to the users interpretations. just like the ending, i thought ellie came back and dina has left just like she said she would and now i gotta see the ending part again to realize whats what. so its not the same experience for everyone and i like it this way.

the part where abby doesn't kill ellie, than ellie at end doesn't kill abby, you gotta dig deep yourself and realize that if you haven't already by playing the game.
Yes I know Tommy is returning character. What happened?
 

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Going prone is one of the best aspects of this game, and significantly changes the way players approach combat. Also fancied the new animations they introduced for allowing players to craft items in that stance. Ledge attacks and getting the drop on enemies from underwater would have surely added materially to stealth combat, though.

I do NOT understand the hate around LGBTQ subjects that the game touches upon. It's just amazing how this has brought out the worst in people.


For me, this game is a solid 8/10.

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I somewhat understand the sadness and anger around Joel's death but in hindsight, it's those emotions that were meant to keep players going on this path of revenge. I seriously do not see anything else genuinely motivating Ellie to go out there and do everything she did


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I did feel that the brutality that went into Joel's murder required good reasoning. While the logic ND offers is not unreasonable by any stretch of the imagination, I felt like showing us something a lot more twisted from Joel's past (as a hunter, perhaps) would have served this much better.


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While I am totally able to appreciate ND's decision to make players play Abby's part, I thought they could have done better with regards to introducing her part rather than putting it off as late as they did (arguably hampers the pacing of the game).
 

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If you hate

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the way Joel is brutally and coldly murdered by an unknown person


Then congratulations, that's exactly what ND/Druckmann wanted you to feel :p

Again, anyone whose beaten the game, please watch that spoiler talk video in the last page. They go over all the questions you might have about the plot/characters.

They also stress enough that they love the characters they've created more than anyone else so they are fully aware of any and all responses they might get when creating the story, and it was created for a reason.
 

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Going prone is one of the best aspects of this game, and significantly changes the way players approach combat. Also fancied the new animations they introduced for allowing players to craft items in that stance. Ledge attacks and getting the drop on enemies from underwater would have surely added materially to stealth combat, though.

I do NOT understand the hate around LGBTQ subjects that the game touches upon. It's just amazing how this has brought out the worst in people.


For me, this game is a solid 8/10.

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I somewhat understand the sadness and anger around Joel's death but in hindsight, it's those emotions that were meant to keep players going on this path of revenge. I seriously do not see anything else genuinely motivating Ellie to go out there and do everything she did


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I did feel that the brutality that went into Joel's murder required good reasoning. While the logic ND offers is not unreasonable by any stretch of the imagination, I felt like showing us something a lot more twisted from Joel's past (as a hunter, perhaps) would have served this much better.


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While I am totally able to appreciate ND's decision to make players play Abby's part, I thought they could have done better with regards to introducing her part rather than putting it off as late as they did (arguably hampers the pacing of the game).
Dude you just summed it up nicely. Its not a bad game by any means. Just because of the event early game people started bashing it without even playing it lol.
 

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If you hate

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the way Joel is brutally and coldly murdered by an unknown person


Then congratulations, that's exactly what ND/Druckmann wanted you to feel

Again, anyone whose beaten the game, please watch that spoiler talk video in the last page. They go over all the questions you might have about the plot/characters.

They also stress enough that they love the characters they've created more than anyone else so they are fully aware of any and all responses they might get when creating the story, and it was created for a reason.
What compels you to make others like this game. We dont like it.

I am so relieved I finished this miserable tale about Nothing. Nothing happened in the game. People died left and right. No character development. Nothing to look forward too.

Go play Astral Chain or something.


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Chandoo

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What compels you to make others like this game. We dont like it.

I am so relieved I finished this miserable tale about Nothing. Nothing happened in the game. People died left and right. No character development. Nothing to look forward too.

Go play Astral Chain or something.


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What compels you to hate the game ? Is it because the lead is a homosexual female without anime tits ? is that what offends your sensibilities ? :p

Who is "we" ? The game has a 94 meta and 4 million units sold in 3 days. Clearly "we" like the game, but a very small fraction of "you" don't because "you" made up your mind based on partial leaks months ago.

Also, if you really believe there was no character development then I doubly stand by my earlier post where I said most of the plot and nuances probably went over franny's head, lol. It was meant as a joke then, it's probably a realistic thing now :p

The game also ends on not one, but TWO obvious story trails where the third game might go. So, once again, I don't see how you can say there's nothing to look forward to after this story either.

I think it's a bit disappointing that

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a certain set of players are hating on the game simply because one of the playable characters is a 'roided up' girl. She's not even trans which a lot of you guys kept hammering on from some of the fake earlier leaks lol. The fact that she kills Joel is something even Ellie and Dina brush off by saying "Joel crossed a thousand people, any one of them could have come back to kill him" which is 100% true in the plot.

oh and before you or Leon once again bring up "BUT HOW IS ABBY SO MUSCULAR IN A POST APOCALYPTIC WORLD'..... her game play section in Seattle Day 1 begins with her NEXT TO A FREAKING FULLY FUNCTIONAL GYM !!!!


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This whole BS will begin once again when TLoU 2 begins winning some GoTY awards at the end of the year :p


Yes, but I'm talking about entering reverse prone while standing, which you can't do in MGS. It fits right into TLOU's encounter design.


Also, was this a known mechanic? Just accidentally did it for the first time while recording a video to show the reverse prone thing to faraany lol.



Holy shit, I didn't know this was even possible. And some people say there's not enough game play mechanics/variety lol.
 
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I would reply to the clueless (story) haters here but their level of understanding and comprehension is not worth it. Besides, Chandoo and CT have nicely explained the story facts which completely escaped some of you lol. One could debate about the likes and dislikes regarding the story but for this to happen you'll have to first understand the story. I thought it was easy enough to understand but that's clearly not the case with some people here because their own objections are addressed by the game and they are oblivious to it.
 

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What compels you to hate the game ? Is it because the lead is a homosexual female without anime tits ? is that what offends your sensibilities ? :p
Well I am sorry, Neil has issues with the female body, not me. And what is wrong with bigger bust? Atleast they look pretty compared to skinny ass ugly people in Last of Us 2.

 

faraany3k

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Who is "we" ? The game has a 94 meta and 4 million units sold in 3 days. Clearly "we" like the game, but a very small fraction of "you" don't because "you" made up your mind based on partial leaks months ago.
All I am seeing is you and some of your lot are complaining about haters rather than talking about the game. I am sorry if We consider this game as nothing more than senseless Teenage drama with some political pandering.

Borderlands 3 has sold 5 million in 3 days and I think that game is shit. What is this argument? People knew about the story before purchasing the game? Please look at your arguments, they are downright awful. I dont like arguing with weaksauce.
 
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[MENTION=1226]faraany3k[/MENTION] you said this in your last post while reviewing the game "I really tried to like the new characters but sadly not one of them stands out. Probably Tommy because he remained consistent and was not altered to serve the needs of story."

making tommy a new character with abbys group.
[MENTION=26]Chandoo[/MENTION] right. i mean in the video i even didn;t knew you could feed infected to clickers haha thats awesome.

plus

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in the first half i was cursing abby and co but later i got to play as her and i knew why she did what she did. and ellie kinda became the bad one or so for a while.

 

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Gotdamn !

I foresee MGS style "expert combat scenario" videos showing cool moves we can't even think of right now popping up in the coming days.


All I am seeing is you and some of your lot are complaining about haters rather than talking about the game. I am sorry if We consider this game as nothing more than senseless Teenage drama with some political pandering.
Every 'complain' you had about the story has been asked and answered multiple times bhai, if it went over your head it's no one's fault lol.

90+ meta, highest PS launch, but yes because 2 people in this topic have an issue with their masculinity "WE" didn't enjoy the game :p

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I think it's a bit disappointing that
You'd be shocked at the amount of effort that was put into spoiling the game for others. This animated video was made in response to Sony DCMA'ing leaked footage off of Youtube (turn down the volume before watching lol):

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I hope all of you took 2 mins to explore Seattle and saw this awesome scene in the game.
One of the coolest moments from the game, and it was entirely missable lol
 

Chandoo

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You'd be shocked at the amount of effort that was put into spoiling the game for others. This animated video was made in response to Sony DCMA'ing leaked footage off of Youtube (turn down the volume before watching lol):

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I mean .. we've all seen those reddit images with people organizing the review bombing campaigns, and we know from that Switch game that just 1 person is enough to bring the user score from metacritic down to the red, so yeah, there was definitely some vocal vitriol against the game.

Fortunately the leaks didn't cause nearly enough damage as some people on this forum were theorizing. Still managed to be the highest selling Sony game and still managed to review in the 90's on MC.

Sony also made some blunders, namely trying to get posts on /v/ copyrighted. They should know better and not even bother addressing the 4chan crowd in any way, it will just cause the shitstorm to keep circulating.
 

Chandoo

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@CerebralTiger

Couple of more mind blowing details.

1. you can see enemies teeth if you manage to land a hit on their faces, not sure if its random, specific to weapons/angle of impact but holy shit






2. If you throw a glass bottle on enemies, the shards stick to their skin


 

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If you hate

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the way Joel is brutally and coldly murdered by an unknown person


Then congratulations, that's exactly what ND/Druckmann wanted you to feel :p

Again, anyone whose beaten the game, please watch that spoiler talk video in the last page. They go over all the questions you might have about the plot/characters.

They also stress enough that they love the characters they've created more than anyone else so they are fully aware of any and all responses they might get when creating the story, and it was created for a reason.
The spoilercast video?

I will watch it.
 

Chandoo

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The spoilercast video?

I will watch it.
This video, featuring Druckman, Ashley Johnson and Troy Baker. It's a bit on the long side but if you have interest in why Druckmann wrote the game the way he did, pretty much A to Z from the game is covered here:


 
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