MULTI Tales of Arise - Releasing Septemebr 9th Worldwide - PS4/5/SX|S/XBO/PC

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Another look at Japan oversexualizing jrpgs. You just have to pull swords out of a woman's chest, yes. No other place the devs could think of. On second thought, there could be other places they'd really want to pull that sword out from, considering it's Japan after all.

There was a time when badass characters depended on their personality/attitude their past and carrying around big broadswords on their back. Fast forward and that changed to letting your woman carry the sword in her chest.
 

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Yeah this stuff is very disappointing. Japanese devs often tend to go overboard with female objectification. To them, it's fan service.
It really is terrible. But it's nothing new tho, it's always existed in Japanese games even the most mainstream ones. Remember Quiet from MGS V? Such an out of place thing in a game of that setting. One of the many reasons I avoid playing Japanese games, tasteless cheap fan service. I don't remember a Japanese game where a women is not oversexualized walking tits and ass on a stick.
 
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Old japanese games didn't used to have these sort of things. I mean there were studios at that time dishing out fan service games but there were equally many studios doing a great job of dishing quality content without oversexualizing things. I'm a fan of the Fire emblem series. Go look at the Wii version (radiant dawn/ POR) and you'll find 0 sexual innuendos or fan service. Even their dresses are proper. And now look what happened to this series. Just a bunch of lolis. 80% females with big busts and 20% males.

See the previous atelier ryza games and the newest one. All they focused on was Ryza's ass. Even the series that used to focus on story/gameplay are now heading towards fan service. I dunno what they have started eating in Japan that they became so horny to put fanservice in every effin game.

Have a look at the famous persona series. Part 1/2 is a brilliant dark, serious story with amazing ost without any of these things. And look at P4 Golden (if you played Risa's dungeon) and P5.

Xenoblade Chronicles, a good game. Xenoblade Chronicles 2? Basically a slut collection game. What the Abuses will lead to ban even happened.

Even a proper dating sim game like Sakura Wars for the PS2 didn't have this much innuendos and fanservice as most games that are sold for their story/adventure these days. Heck, Sakura wars didn't even had any fan service as far as I can remember. Proper dresses for every effin gal and imagine it was a dating sim game.

It's like the devs say, guys the game won't sell if we don't portray half naked huge busted girls with asses larger than half of their body.
 

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Another look at Japan oversexualizing jrpgs. You just have to pull swords out of a woman's chest, yes. No other place the devs could think of. On second thought, there could be other places they'd really want to pull that sword out from, considering it's Japan after all
Have you played MGS Ground Zeroes ? They stuck a bomb up Pazz's you-know-where.

Things can be a lot worse than an interdimensional portal out of a JRPG chest :D
 

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The environmental art looks nice, but the real draw here for me is the combat. Couldn't get into DQXI due to it being turn-based.

Remember Quiet from MGS V? Such an out of place thing in a game of that setting. One of the many reasons I avoid playing Japanese games, tasteless cheap fan service.
Yeah, Kojima's probably the biggest pervert of them all lol.
 

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Have you played MGS Ground Zeroes ? They stuck a bomb up Pazz's you-know-where.

Things can be a lot worse than an interdimensional portal out of a JRPG chest :D
I know. I've seen worst and more awkward things to the point this don't even seem that awkward and that in itself is awkward to me when I look at myself objectively. I mean if Japan can make anime like Keijo which is essentially a butt-fight competition, these things look normal compared to that.

What triggers me is the fact that they just have to go and ruin the whole game due to these subtle sexual innuendos and fan-service. This is off-putting for many people. And people start avoiding JRPGs and anime and shit. When you ask people about anime or Japanese games they are immediately gonna visualize half naked girls with big busts and asses trotting sluttily around the male lead and there are 20 or 30 like that. Truly so, as that's what is in the market these days. That's what the impression has become and the fact that this thinking has overshadowed some of the masterpieces and gems that are coming or more correctly used to came from Japan makes me feel a little sad.

Most people talking about how a modern game 'X' is good haven't even played the predecessors in that series to know what the series used to look like. Examples are Persona and Fire emblem. everybody who thinks persona 5 was a quality game should go and play persona 2 and get to know what persona games were about. They weren't about social links and dating and romance and shit. Shit used to be dark.
 

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Have you played MGS Ground Zeroes ? They stuck a bomb up Pazz's you-know-where.

Things can be a lot worse than an interdimensional portal out of a JRPG chest :D
Not much of a comparison man. You know what happens when there's mass conflict and/or wars ongoing. Men are butchered, taken prisoners, tortured, women are raped and worse. What ever happened to Chico and Paz is atleast believable given the setting of the game. But pulling a sword out of your tiities? Or a women who breathes through her skin so she has to be naked at all times? That ain't it man
 
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Not much of a comparison man. You know what happens when there's mass conflict and/or wars ongoing. Men are butchered, taken prisoners, tortured, women are raped and worse. What ever happened to Chico and Paz is atleast believable given the setting of the game. But pulling a sword out of your tiities? Or a women who breathes through her skin so she has to be naked at all times? That ain't it man
my n word, chill 😂
 
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my n word, chill 😂
Haha I'm chill man, it's all good 😂. Just pointing out that two are very different things here

I often only shitpost here so when I rarely get in the mood of actual discussion I may come of as serious af party pooper kinda guy lol. Don't mind me 😂
 

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Simply stating the former was the devs showing the fetish of a game character to stuck a bomb up there, and the latter is the fetish of the dev himself. While the former might be bearable or believable, the latter certainly aint xD
 

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The last Tales of...games I enjoyed and completed was Tales of Xillia.

After that, I wasn't able to complete:
Tales of Xillia 2 (despite progressing a lot further)
Tales of Zesteria (despite progressing a lot further)
Tales of Besteria (a handful of hours)

Dunno why, all 3 of these Tales of...games lacked what made previous Tales of...games such as Xillia and Legendia great. Probably because the same art style used, same combat style used, bland stories.

This one looks good visually but let's see if it ends up being another Tales of...game to increase the list numbers, or actually enjoyable.
 

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The last Tales of...games I enjoyed and completed was Tales of Xillia.

After that, I wasn't able to complete:
Tales of Xillia 2 (despite progressing a lot further)
Tales of Zesteria (despite progressing a lot further)
Tales of Besteria (a handful of hours)

Dunno why, all 3 of these Tales of...games lacked what made previous Tales of...games such as Xillia and Legendia great. Probably because the same art style used, same combat style used, bland stories.

This one looks good visually but let's see if it ends up being another Tales of...game to increase the list numbers, or actually enjoyable.
People say Vesperia was very good. Didn't seem that different to me. The male mc Yuri was a little different from the most tales MCs in that he was more mature but that's it. I played Symphonia quite a lot but never got to complete any tales game. Too lighthearted/cliche for my taste.
 
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